Netflix's "Cuties" - The Preteen Sexual Objectification Equivalent of "Funny Games"

[tigergrinder]

Holy fuck.

I'm in a Discord channel filled with fat, white women troons (the kind who go on tumblr and etsy and buy cute, useless shit. Call their pets "furbabies". You know the kind.). I had an old friend there (who isn't as insane) and now I'm just observing them. I brought up Cuties. Ready for their responses?

"Right now what we have is a dodgy poster, a lot of sensationalist articles and a trailer. There's no solid inkling of how tastefully done it is in its treatment of the subject matter. Mostly to me it just seems like a coming of age movie."

" Sometimes its important to watch uncomfortable things and (unless triggers, self care first please!) "

"Nothing I've read about the movie makes it sound like its about sexualising kids
Just the poster"

"I’m not cool with the implication that because we’re viewing it differently it makes us somehow terrible people
it as in the situation"

" Idk if because I'm in europe I'm more used to those kind of movies but it just seems like a pretty normal movie to me about a child conflicting with "worldly" draws and conservatism. The first 5 secs are like glamourising but I feel like that's meant to be her perspective on it where its shiny and interesting but the rest is the reality of it all starting to set in which I'm guessing is the latter objective of the movie itself."

" If you think I or anyone else doesn’t think sexualizing children is fucked up then boy howdy I ain’t gonna get into that unnecessary drama because I don’t need to defend how disgusting I find it to a stranger. But if this turns out to be a film highlighting the dangers and cruelty and evil of it without promoting or agreeing with it, then yes, it may be a film I’m interested in seeing"

" I think generally in the Serious chat the atmosphere is we try to be respectful of each other and hear out viewpoints, even with difficult or very divisive topics. We've had people in here that have had pretty conservative viewpoints and even strong viewpoints, but we still try to listen, explain, work things at."

NO YOU DON'T

EDIT: For any folks who read through this later, I doxed 'em all on page 15. Enjoy.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Holy fuck.

I'm in a Discord channel filled with fat, white women troons (the kind who go on tumblr and etsy and buy cute, useless shit. Call their pets "furbabies". You know the kind.). I had an old friend there (who isn't as insane) and now I'm just observing them. I brought up Cuties. Ready for their responses?

"Right now what we have is a dodgy poster, a lot of sensationalist articles and a trailer. There's no solid inkling of how tastefully done it is in its treatment of the subject matter. Mostly to me it just seems like a coming of age movie."

" Sometimes its important to watch uncomfortable things and (unless triggers, self care first please!) "

"Nothing I've read about the movie makes it sound like its about sexualising kids
Just the poster"

"I’m not cool with the implication that because we’re viewing it differently it makes us somehow terrible people
it as in the situation"

" Idk if because I'm in europe I'm more used to those kind of movies but it just seems like a pretty normal movie to me about a child conflicting with "worldly" draws and conservatism. The first 5 secs are like glamourising but I feel like that's meant to be her perspective on it where its shiny and interesting but the rest is the reality of it all starting to set in which I'm guessing is the latter objective of the movie itself."

" If you think I or anyone else doesn’t think sexualizing children is fucked up then boy howdy I ain’t gonna get into that unnecessary drama because I don’t need to defend how disgusting I find it to a stranger. But if this turns out to be a film highlighting the dangers and cruelty and evil of it without promoting or agreeing with it, then yes, it may be a film I’m interested in seeing"

" I think generally in the Serious chat the atmosphere is we try to be respectful of each other and hear out viewpoints, even with difficult or very divisive topics. We've had people in here that have had pretty conservative viewpoints and even strong viewpoints, but we still try to listen, explain, work things at."

NO YOU DON'T

It's time

 

[Aidan]

I want the people behind this to be dead.

 

[Grandpa Simpson]

Before I get tarred and feathered, yes, that movie is presented as paedo-bait, and I don’t really see why it was made other than for shock value. But the issue of sexualising young girls is a real one.
What makes this shit so horrifying is that, in this case, the director picked actresses that look like pre-pubescent 11 year olds. But when you see Tik Tok “stars” that are 12 but with breasts, suddenly, it’s okay for the majority of outraged people.

It could have been a more relevant movie if as others had said, it was an educational movie about how young girls can be easily manipulated online just by getting likes. It would be an instructive video for parents on the real dangers they might not even know about. But you can see it's more like they are glamorizing the concept, and by the look of the french cover it's looks like "10 year olds first shopping trip" yet is rated MA-15/NC17. Who is the audience for such a movie? Pedos, under the guise of "Muslim girls challenges cultural norms"

 

[Parthenos]

Netflix, when I say "I'd like more French media on streaming platforms" I mean good animation, not degeneracy.

Also, I'd like to pay special attention to the fact that the "religious conservatism" being flouted by the protagonist is Islam, which is playing with fucking fire as far as backlash goes.

 

[Uncle Joey]

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https://twitter.com/JonEWorldbeater/status/1296318922820423680

This is from the director of The Fifth Element...

 

[Prolego]

Last year, I interviewed kids in my old middle school for a project about social media, we’re talking 11-13 year olds, and most of them had posted inappropriate content online. And were willing to admit it because they didn’t see anything wrong with it.

Five years ago a little dance school in the middle of nowhere, somewhere in Russia hit the headlines because a group of 14 and 15 year old girls put on a bizarre performance called "Winnie the Pooh and the Bees" for their end of term show, where they were all twerking and humping the floor. I've just had a search to try to find out what happened next. Talk at the time was that the school would be shut and all the teachers sacked. Actually nothing happened. When the authorities asked around they found that twerking was seen just as something exotic and foreign, a bit like putting on a grass skirt and copying some Hawaiian moves, and 'all dance moves in the act were in line with the moves of the "international twerk style"' (Sadly Google books won't show me the preceding or next pages).

In other words, the kids and their teachers just thought that adults danced like that in the West.

source

 

[Ruin]

From what I read in the director’s French interview, she’s basically saying - well, it happens irl, and young girls do love to get likes and followers on social media. And sexualising themselves is a good way to do so.

She has a point with that. Pre-pubescent and barely pubescent girls are putting themselves out there and doing shit like that. A whole lot of them, at least in France.

Last year, I interviewed kids in my old middle school for a project about social media, we’re talking 11-13 year olds, and most of them had posted inappropriate content online. And were willing to admit it because they didn’t see anything wrong with it.

Hell, there was a 12 year old whose latest pic at the time (and one she showed off proudly) was her in a swimsuit from the summer holidays, captioned “sea, sex, and sun” with emojis.
I asked her if she knew what that meant, but she kind of brushed it off with “it sounds cool, and look at how many likes I got”.

And when I went to talk with the supervisor about it, she just kind of hand-waived it with “we got 6th graders with access to social media. We try to teach them to be careful, but what can you do?”

Before I get tarred and feathered, yes, that movie is presented as paedo-bait, and I don’t really see why it was made other than for shock value. But the issue of sexualising young girls is a real one.
What makes this shit so horrifying is that, in this case, the director picked actresses that look like pre-pubescent 11 year olds. But when you see Tik Tok “stars” that are 12 but with breasts, suddenly, it’s okay for the majority of outraged people.

A buddy of mine really truly did at one point want to be a teacher and make a difference. After he graduated college he went to work at an elementary school and three separate girls told him if he failed them they'd tell the principal they had sex with him. After the first one he recorded the other two threatening him. The little shits got expelled but he said fuck it and sells farming equipment now.

There's no way girls that young should know what this shit is and be using it to manipulate others. But they do and media like this is to blame.

 

[RumblyTumbly]

10 years ago, people were saying that legalizing gay marriage would start slippery slope of degeneracy that would result in trying to normalize pedophilia and sexualize/exploit very young children.

Many, including myself, scoffed at such an idea. It felt like a false equivalency and irrelevant to the discussion.

Well...here we are in 2020. Exposing kids to sex and having them twerk in a movie is awesome! And you're a bigot if you don't agree!

 

[Crustyguy]

Does France just have more lax views on this kind of stuff? I know they let Polanski win an award at their Oscars last year. Even in America, with people like Dan Schneider and countless other pedos and sex-pests in Hollywood, that shit would not fly at all. Is French culture just more accepting of rape and pedophilia or is it just that the entertainment industry over there has more leeway?

 

[White Devil]

10 years ago, people were saying that legalizing gay marriage would start slippery slope of degeneracy that would result in trying to normalize pedophilia and sexualize/exploit very young children.

Many, including myself, scoffed at such an idea. It felt like a false equivalency and irrelevant to the discussion.

Well...here we are in 2020. Exposing kids to sex and having them twerk in a movie is awesome! And you're a bigot if you don't agree!

Who could have thought that they were right

 

[Observotron]

I rose from the dead to inform everyone here that criticizing this movie on Reddit is looked down on.

Take a look at the class in this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/idcjkl/netflix_apologizes_for_inappropriate_cuties/

 

[Chicken Lo Mein]

Totally Spies was also French. Here's lists of the fetishes it covered in seasons 1 and 2.
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Since when was wearing traditional Russian clothing a fetish?

Anyone else wanna bang these babushkas?

 

[Aidan]

I rose from the dead to inform everyone here that criticizing this movie on Reddit is looked down on.

Take a look at the class in this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/idcjkl/netflix_apologizes_for_inappropriate_cuties/

Retards are saying it's a publicity stunt and the actual content remains to be judged and is not going to be that bad. These people try so hard to justify anything to be the epic progressive beacons of light they want to be seen as.
"That's what the directors intention was, to make the viewer uncomfortable and want to look away. Kinda like all those documentaries of the treatment of animals in slaughterhouses, vast majority of people who eat meat don't want to watch it and be made aware of where their food comes from."

At this point pedo stuff in media, especially entertainment, is household chat. At what point do people start asking for something to be done? I guess I'm more mad at it than most normal people who've already forgotten weinstein but there was a split second in the real world where everyone realized every higher up in hollywood is complicit in this sort of thing and it's pushed as "art" in media more than ever. It's grating and tiresome.

 

[Juan's Sombrero]

Penguinz0's video on it.

I think I've figured out Netflix's game here. They deliberately marketed this movie the way it did to accomplish two things.

Draw out pedophiles (sorry, Vaush, but you're definitely on a list now) for the FBI, and protect Hollywood pedophiles. By thrusting it with the reputation from its phenomenally bad marketing strategy, Netflix has pretty much kept people second guessing this film's actual message at face value.

Is it to criticize how fucked rich adults are in wanting to sex up kids? Is it trying to say that it's okay and that we're just being bigots? Is my microwave trying to call down aliens?

This is just...terrible.

"That's what the directors intention was, to make the viewer uncomfortable and want to look away. Kinda like all those documentaries of the treatment of animals in slaughterhouses, vast majority of people who eat meat don't want to watch it and be made aware of where their food comes from."

Lol! Bunch of tryhards. Do vegans genuinely think that most grown ass adults don't know where their food comes from? Do they think that people are stupid enough to believe that a magical meat machine shits out a fresh slab of beef like it's nothing?

Me and my family would slaughter a live pig during our gatherings. No shit animals are killed for it. The world is not a small vegan commune, you delusional pricks. Most people are still going to need meat to survive.

 

[Kiwifarmsname]

The only reason people are getting mad about this isnt because they are against it, theyd rather it be out of sight out of mind.

 

[Observotron]

The only reason people are getting mad about this isnt because they are against it, theyd rather it be out of sight out of mind.

Uhhhh... speak for yourself?

 

[Bins]

Does France just have more lax views on this kind of stuff? I know they let Polanski win an award at their Oscars last year. Even in America, with people like Dan Schneider and countless other pedos and sex-pests in Hollywood, that shit would not fly at all. Is French culture just more accepting of rape and pedophilia or is it just that the entertainment industry over there has more leeway?

Exhibit A: Polanski

Exhibit B:

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

I rose from the dead to inform everyone here that criticizing this movie on Reddit is looked down on.

Take a look at the class in this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/idcjkl/netflix_apologizes_for_inappropriate_cuties/

I hate the big brain in there telling everyone how you are suppose to feel disgusted, as though they are the only genius to figure that out.

Bitch, there's been a vocal group of people who have been complaining about the sexualization of children in media for quite a while, it's just that you and your ilk ignored/ridiculed them because the targets they complained about happened to be part of the LGBT-whatevee the fuck else rainbow.

 

[Neil]

"Hey, dude, looking at your 10 year old son is doing things to me. Just wanted to give you a heads up. Oh, don't worry, I won't touch him."

I hate when pedos say shit like this. This is an immediate redflag. Kids can't and don't ever do things like this ever, that should be the first sign that this creep touched your kid. Any time an adult says a prepubescent child is coming on to them, put a bullet between their eyes before they end up as another Nick Bate.

From what I read in the director’s French interview, she’s basically saying - well, it happens irl, and young girls do love to get likes and followers on social media. And sexualising themselves is a good way to do so.

She has a point with that. Pre-pubescent and barely pubescent girls are putting themselves out there and doing shit like that. A whole lot of them, at least in France.

Last year, I interviewed kids in my old middle school for a project about social media, we’re talking 11-13 year olds, and most of them had posted inappropriate content online. And were willing to admit it because they didn’t see anything wrong with it.

Hell, there was a 12 year old whose latest pic at the time (and one she showed off proudly) was her in a swimsuit from the summer holidays, captioned “sea, sex, and sun” with emojis.
I asked her if she knew what that meant, but she kind of brushed it off with “it sounds cool, and look at how many likes I got”.

And when I went to talk with the supervisor about it, she just kind of hand-waived it with “we got 6th graders with access to social media. We try to teach them to be careful, but what can you do?”

Before I get tarred and feathered, yes, that movie is presented as paedo-bait, and I don’t really see why it was made other than for shock value. But the issue of sexualising young girls is a real one.
What makes this shit so horrifying is that, in this case, the director picked actresses that look like pre-pubescent 11 year olds. But when you see Tik Tok “stars” that are 12 but with breasts, suddenly, it’s okay for the majority of outraged people.

People have been complaining about TikTok since it was Music.ly. There were a fuckload of videos calling out creepy adults on Music.ly for creepily only replying to videos made by pre-teen girls, and trying really hard to appeal to them. Hell, those same videos called out the platform for housing videos with teens dancing in a sexual way and not taking it down back then.

The thing here is that those people didn't have the power or access to Music.ly/Tiktok to get that shit taken down, nor did they have its administration listening to them. Music.ly was relatively obscure to anyone but zoomers back then too. That's why Tiktok still exists to this day. There was no big push against it.

But now people are pushing against this shit, and rightfully so.