2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[RockPaper]

Are you really trying that bullshit "the parties switched"? I'm sick of the Democrats getting out of their shitty deeds by blaming it on Republicans.

The GOP won a lot of the deep south states in that one election, but it wasn't because of Goldwater somehow appealing to their racism. The segregationist George Wallace ran in the Dem primary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_United_States_presidential_election

I didn't say any of that, and I never mentioned racism. 1964 IS the first election when the South started to vote Republican. It's just a fact. It continued to trend that way with the only blip being Carter temporarily winning it back in '76. But of course he pissed it away along with the rest of the country by being a shitty President.

The Dems could count on the South so strongly they voted for Stevenson over Eisenhower. Twice. 1964 was the first time they couldn't count on them. Nobody cared because LBJ won everything else going away. But in '68 it was definitely a problem.

 

[2021Murder]

I didn't say any of that, and I never mentioned racism. 1964 IS the first election when the South started to vote Republican. It's just a fact. It continued to trend that way with the only blip being Carter temporarily winning it back in '76. But of course he pissed it away along with the rest of the country by being a shitty President.

ACTUALLY KIWIFARMS IS AN EVIL SITE, WE SHOULD JAIL ALL THE USERS FOR TERRORISM NO ONE SHOULD WATCH THE NEW ZELAND SHOOTER VIDEO

is that another basic retard take from the Daily Show you want to throw at us faggot

 

[General Disarray]

Which ones? Cause when I look at his youtube channel, they're all stuck at the 18-20k range, to the point that it's blatantly faked numbers.

 

[heyitsmike]

I didn't say any of that, and I never mentioned racism. 1964 IS the first election when the South started to vote Republican. It's just a fact. It continued to trend that way with the only blip being Carter temporarily winning it back in '76. But of course he pissed it away along with the rest of the country by being a shitty President.

The whole party switch thing is an implicit argument that the GOP started to appeal to white racists. It is integral to it. You can't bring it up and then claim that you didn't mention racism.

The GOP won landslides in 1972, 1980, 1984, and 1988. They won 40+ states in every election. If 49, 44, 49 and 40 states vote GOP, how can you reasonably expect the south not to as well?

Take your argument to its logical conclusion. California went GOP in all those elections as well. So according to your logic, that was when they first started to vote Republican. Of course, that would obviously be an absurd conclusion to make, yet that is exactly what you're doing with the southern states.

But in '68 it was definitely a problem.

But those states didn't vote Republican in 1968, so that says nothing about the GOP.

 

[RockPaper]

The whole party switch thing is an implicit argument that the GOP started to appeal to white racists. It is integral to it. You can't bring it up and then claim that you didn't mention race.

Yeah, I can.

The Dems could count on the South in every election since 1876. 1964 was the first time they couldn't count on it. You can think up any reason you want for that (because I didn't offer one), but you can't pretend it didn't happen. Sorry. Bringing up California as a counterexample is a red herring.

Personally, I think it had little to do with Republicans doing anything. It was more related to the Democrats splitting ideologically into two factions. The "Dixiecrats" and the group which ended up being the ancestors of the minority-pandering social justice weirdos we're dealing with now. It's not that the South loved what the supposedly evil, racist GOP was telling them (which was a bullshit narrative), it was more like they didn't want to vote for the kind of Democrat that was ascendant in the party.

But those states didn't vote Republican in 1968, so that says nothing about the GOP.

Yeah, I know. They got fed up with Dems and without a 3rd Party - like they had in 1968 - they could only vote Not-Dem, which were Republicans.

There's definitely a reason third-party candidates won southern states in 1948, 1960 and 1968. Very unusual, but it happened because enough of them wanted an alternative to the national candidate the Dem party was offering them.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Yeah, I can.

The Dems could count on the South in every election since 1876. 1964 was the first time they couldn't count on it. You can think up any reason you want for that (because I didn't offer one), but you can't pretend it didn't happen. Sorry. Bringing up California as a counterexample is a red herring.

Personally, I think it had little to do with Republicans doing anything. It was more related to the Democrats splitting ideologically into two factions. The "Dixiecrats" and the group which ended up being the ancestors of the minority-pandering social justice weirdos we're dealing with now. It's not that the South loved what the supposedly evil, racist GOP was telling them (which was a bullshit narrative), it was more like they didn't want to vote for the kind of Democrat that was ascendant in the party.



Yeah, I know. They got fed up with Dems and without a 3rd Party they could only vote Not-Dem, which were Republicans.

That doesn't change the fact that the Initial Nixon Southern Strategy was a massive failure, it is a shitty Left Wing Talking point to attempt to sweep the fact that they are racist assholes under the rug.

 

[RockPaper]

That doesn't change the fact that the Initial Nixon Southern Strategy was a massive failure, it is a shitty Left Wing Talking point to attempt to sweep the fact that they are racist assholes under the rug.

Well, Nixon did win a number of Southern States, but having Wallace there to win the "Deep South" meant Humphrey wasn't winning any of those, and Humphrey only won Texas. I have a hunch Nixon would have won the states Wallace won if Wallace hadn't been there. Not because Nixon was racially pandering, but because of how unpopular the Dem Administration was because of Vietnam, et al. There were a lot of reasons to say "fuck you" to Humphrey that had nothing to do with racial politics.

What the penchant for voting for one of their own 3rd-party guys tells me, is that southern Democrats were fed up with the Lefty RFK/McGovern-type weak bleeding heart bullshit, but holding their nose and voting GOP was something that they didn't want to do if they had a 3rd alternative. When there was no third alternative, they held their nose.

That belies the Left Wing Talking point that the South ran to the GOP with open arms (because the GOP courted them with racist bullshit, which was a lie). They didn't, but they sure as hell wanted to eventually run away from certain Dems if they could.

 

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And the others released that day.

So what gives?

Are they just delaying the numbers or something?

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

This is allegedly Trump's 50 point policy agenda. Some points are a little soft for policy, but it's actually something.

https://twitter.com/NicoleSganga/status/1297704384286150656

http://archive.vn/NjjSp

Some interesting ones:
Establish Permanent Manned Presence on the Moon and Send the First Manned Mission to Mars
National High Speed 5G Network
Bring Violent Extremist Groups Like ANTIFA to Justice
Pass Congressional Term Limits
Return to Normal in 2021

 

[XYZpdq]

This is allegedly Trump's 50 point policy agenda. Some points are a little soft for policy, but it's actually something.

https://twitter.com/NicoleSganga/status/1297704384286150656

http://archive.vn/NjjSp

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Some interesting ones:
Establish Permanent Manned Presence on the Moon and Send the First Manned Mission to Mars
National High Speed 5G Network
Bring Violent Extremist Groups Like ANTIFA to Justice
Pass Congressional Term Limits
Return to Normal in 2021

It's funny to hear the ads on conservative talk radio REEEEEEEEing about Trump's drug price stuff. Used to be they were just REEEEEEEEEEEE now it's How Do You Do, Fellow Conservatives, Boy I Love Those Judicial Appointments! REEEEEEEEEEE

 

[DrearyDoomguy]

As Twitter is not the real world, neither is Youtube. I'm with you that this election is his to lose but wouldn't put my stock in his metrics on any individual website as proof of that.

While I agree with that in the abstract, the fact that he's able to get that many views on an openly hostile platform is noteworthy. Keep in mind, he ran a massive ad buy last week when the DNC was streaming, so everyone watching it on Youtube who doesn't use uBlock origin saw his ads; going from the poll movement during the DNC, so far it looks like it was quite effective at blunting their post-convention boost.

 

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This is allegedly Trump's 50 point policy agenda. Some points are a little soft for policy, but it's actually something.

https://twitter.com/NicoleSganga/status/1297704384286150656

http://archive.vn/NjjSp

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Some interesting ones:
Establish Permanent Manned Presence on the Moon and Send the First Manned Mission to Mars
National High Speed 5G Network
Bring Violent Extremist Groups Like ANTIFA to Justice
Pass Congressional Term Limits
Return to Normal in 2021

50 point policy?!

HITLER HAD A 25 POINT PLAN

2 SCHOOOPS 2 TERMS 2WICE THE HITLER

 

[babadook]

12 GORILLIONS

 

[CrippleThreat]

So, Trump does look at the Farms.
Trump, no!

 

[Harvey Danger]

This is allegedly Trump's 50 point policy agenda. Some points are a little soft for policy, but it's actually something.

https://twitter.com/NicoleSganga/status/1297704384286150656

http://archive.vn/NjjSp

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Some interesting ones:
Establish Permanent Manned Presence on the Moon and Send the First Manned Mission to Mars
National High Speed 5G Network
Bring Violent Extremist Groups Like ANTIFA to Justice
Pass Congressional Term Limits
Return to Normal in 2021

He doesn't have the power to do half of that, or the time to start the other half.

That first page is a decent agenda for a 2nd term, everything else after is goals without a plan or favorite bullet points that everyone knows aren't serious (Congressional term limits, sure buddy, you're gonna be the one to get that done, lol). If he can focus a speech on that first page alone, great. If some clueless speech writer tries to incorporate the whole thing, it'll be a mess.

Not that it matters too much, as 97% of the country has already made up its mind who to vote for and only 2% say they might change it. I can't imagine that last 3% is sitting around wondering who to vote for, then sees "Build A Great Cybersecurity Defense System And Missile Defense System" and leaps for his mail-in ballot with joy.

 

[The Curmudgeon]

It looks like the Democrats are once again going with the "Vote for us or you're an evil Nazi!" approach. They typically do, but this seems a lot more pronounced since the Obama years. There are already people I know who are Democrats that are spouting this bullshit. I'm not surprised, but it still pisses me off.

Speaking as an election worker, and a neutral one at that too, I am both dreading and anticipating this election. I hope for everyone's sake that both sides try their damn hardest to wrangle their tards, though recent events convince me the Dems have no intention of doing that.

 

[Someone Awful]

This is allegedly Trump's 50 point policy agenda. Some points are a little soft for policy, but it's actually something.

https://twitter.com/NicoleSganga/status/1297704384286150656

http://archive.vn/NjjSp

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Some interesting ones:
Establish Permanent Manned Presence on the Moon and Send the First Manned Mission to Mars
National High Speed 5G Network
Bring Violent Extremist Groups Like ANTIFA to Justice
Pass Congressional Term Limits
Return to Normal in 2021

"Develop a Vaccine by the end of 2020"
...no

That is not how decent vaccines work. Just open up the whole country if or when you win the election and don't fucking rush a vaccine that could have a lot more side effects than if you let scientists spend years on it. That's a recipe for killing the Republican Party's momentum if they win the 2020 presidential election and keep the Senate.

He should focus on jobs, cutting ties with the world's evilest regime, bringing troops home, cutting immigration, and defending the police. Half of his promises he listed here can't be kept anyway.

 

[JambledUpWords]

This is allegedly Trump's 50 point policy agenda. Some points are a little soft for policy, but it's actually something.

https://twitter.com/NicoleSganga/status/1297704384286150656

http://archive.vn/NjjSp

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Some interesting ones:
Establish Permanent Manned Presence on the Moon and Send the First Manned Mission to Mars
National High Speed 5G Network
Bring Violent Extremist Groups Like ANTIFA to Justice
Pass Congressional Term Limits
Return to Normal in 2021

I take at least half of these points as purely aspirational rather than as an actual promise. That said, here’s some things that appealed to me:

This would really help with the taxes in the US. If all future immigrants coming to the US were able to financially support themselves, it would really help both the immigrants and the taxpayers.

I really don’t like the use of foreign low-cost workers for how exploitive it is of both US citizens and foreigners alike. If Trump can at least stifle this a bit, I’ll be happy.

Probably one of the most important things on the list, but sadly won’t pass with the kind of Congress we have. I’m tired of the Pelosi and other career politicians like her. They wield way more power than they should.

This one is going to be a nasty battle between pharmaceutical companies and drug manufacturers. I’m not sure if it will work, but if they got lowered a bit more, many people would appreciate it.

This is something I know Trump can do, but it will be twisted by the media like always. The lies China has spread about the virus have made the impact so much worse.

This is also another possibility, but an immediate withdraw probably wouldn’t be the best idea. I hope that the regions become stable enough to at least allow Americans to go home and let those countries sort it out themselves (considering the conflicts have been around much longer than the US presence in those places).

Sanctuary cities are unconstitutional to begin with and hopefully he can get the practice to end. I imagine him withholding federal funding to get those cities to stop allowing illegal immigrants into their cities.

After the riots, I want police to feel more appreciated. Sure, there are bad cops out there, but the way to help it is more funding to the police department in order to create reform. There’s a lot that can be done to help police departments, and hiring more officers can ease the stress of police departments.

 

[Harvey Danger]

That is not how decent vaccines work. Just open up the whole country if or when you win the election and don't fucking rush a vaccine that could have a lot more side effects than if you let scientists spend years on it. That's a recipe for killing the Republican Party's momentum if they win the 2020 presidential election and keep the Senate.

I've spent a decade arguing against anti-vaxxers IRL. But if someone comes out with a vaccine by the end of 2020, I am not taking it, I am not voting for anyone who makes it mandatory, and I'm activating anti-jogger defenses if they come knocking to encourage the public to take it.

Maybe I'll give gen 2 or 3 a try, but I'd rather take my chances with just a stupid mask and some hand sanitzer.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Rushing a vaccine, any vaccine, is a fucking horrible idea that could have utterly disastrous consequences.

I know this pandemic and quarantine bullshit sucks ass, but let's not accidentally make it a fuckton worse by rushing out a vaccine just so one side can try and claim brownie-points for it to help win an election.