Science Full stop is 'intimidating' to young people because they interpret it as sign of anger, linguists say - I shit you not.



Full stop is 'intimidating' to young people because they interpret it as sign of anger, linguists say
  • Language experts are debating the change in use by youngsters of the full stop
  • In the age of instant messaging, some argue the full stop is no longer necessary
  • Some experts say context is key and that full stops are still important in emails
By KATIE FEEHAN FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 21:09 EDT, 23 August 2020 | UPDATED: 08:43 EDT, 24 August 2020


Full stops intimidate young people when used in social media communication as they are interpreted as a sign of anger, according to linguistic experts.

Teenagers and those in their early twenties, classified as Generation Z, have grown up with smartphones which they use to send short messages without full stops.

And a study from Binghamton University in New York suggested that people who finish messages with full stops are perceived as insincere.
Linguistic experts are now investigating why teens interpret a correctly-punctuated text as a signal of irritation.

The debate was reignited after writer Rhiannon Cosslett tweeted: 'Older people – do you realise that ending a sentence with a full stop comes across as sort of abrupt and unfriendly to younger people in an email/chat? Genuinely curious.'

Several Twitter users expressed disbelief, and, despite her own use of a full stop, one even accused her of 'peak snowflakery'.

That prompted crime novelist Sophie Hannah to reply: 'Just asked 16-year-old son – apparently this is true. If he got a message with full stops at the end of sentences he'd think the sender was "weird, mean or too blunt".'

According to experts, youngsters used to communicating electronically break up their thoughts by sending each one as a separate message, rather than using a full stop, which they use only to signal they are annoyed or irritated.

Some have said the full stop is redundant when used in texting because the message is ended just by sending it.
According to The Telegraph, Linguist Dr Lauren Fonteyn of Leiden University in Holland, tweeted: 'If you send a text message without a full stop, it's already obvious that you've concluded the message.

'So if you add that additional marker for completion, they will read something into it and it tends to be a falling intonation or negative tone.'
A linguist from the University of Cambridge, Owen McArdle, told the newspaper: 'I'm not sure I agree about emails. I guess it depends how formal they are.

'But full stops are, in my experience, very much the exception and not the norm in [young people's] instant messages, and have a new role in signifying an abrupt or angry tone of voice.'

And the potential change in meaning of the full stop, in relation to online communication, has been debated by linguists for years.
Professor David Crystal, one of the world's leading language experts, argues that the usage of full stops is being 'revised in a really fundamental way'.
In his book, Making a Point, he says that the punctuation mark has become an 'emotion marker' which alerts the recipient that the sender is angry or annoyed.

He wrote: 'You look at the internet or any instant messaging exchange – anything that is a fast dialogue taking place. People simply do not put full stops in, unless they want to make a point.

The full stop is now being used in those circumstances as an emotion marker.'

In 2015, a study from Binghamton University in New York suggested that people who finish messages with full stops are perceived as insincere.
The study involved 126 undergraduates and the researchers found that text messages ending in the most final of punctuation marks – eg 'lol.', 'let's go to Nando's.', 'send nudes.' – were perceived as being less sincere.

Unusually, texts ending in an exclamation point – 'lmao!', 'just a cheeky one!', 'what body part even is that? I hope it's your arm!' – are deemed heartfelt or more profound.

Research leader Celia Klin said at the time: 'When speaking, people easily convey social and emotional information with eye gaze, facial expressions, tone of voice, pauses and so on.

'People obviously can't use these mechanisms when they are texting. Thus, it makes sense that texters rely on what they have available to them – emoticons, deliberate misspellings that mimic speech sounds and, according to our data, punctuation.'

The full stop derives from Greek punctuation introduced by Aristophanes of Byzantium in the 3rd Century BC.


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Full-stops are used to indicate anger or annoyance, 2015 study finds
In 2015, a study from Binghamton University in New York suggested that people who finish messages with full stops are perceived as insincere.
The study involved 126 undergraduates and the researchers found that text messages ending in the most final of punctuation marks – eg 'lol.', 'let's go to Nando's.', 'send nudes.' – were perceived as being less sincere.

Unusually, texts ending in an exclamation point – 'lmao!', 'just a cheeky one!', 'what body part even is that? I hope it's your arm!' – are deemed heartfelt or more profound.

The authors concluded that punctuation 'is one cue used by senders, and understood by receivers, to convey pragmatic and social information' such as irritation.

Research leader Celia Klin said at the time: 'When speaking, people easily convey social and emotional information with eye gaze, facial expressions, tone of voice, pauses and so on.

'People obviously can't use these mechanisms when they are texting. Thus, it makes sense that texters rely on what they have available to them – emoticons, deliberate misspellings that mimic speech sounds and, according to our data, punctuation.'

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On the one hand it's a study of 126 students so it's shit, on the other hand they are University students...

On the other other hand the Mails comments are great
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Anyone know where to find the study?

Edit: Found study.


 
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Stop humoring retards. For fuck sake. Make it go away.
I... I sincerely didn't imagine anything could be more retarded. That is more retarded, right there. I didn't go to university so I don't have the obviously sublime experience of jerking off to the point of near climax with a group of other men in a hallway so I could jizz on a buddy's date. Sounds gay. And criminal. And like a really great way to not only go to jail but hopefully loose a friend. If you jizzed on my girl friend I'd be upset... Especially if I still had a wet dick out and she was all bent over like 'give it to me big man.' Not cool. The sock is to let you know to fuck off not masturbate in the hall. What else are universities failing to teach our young?
 
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ywn find the first anon who claimed that Gen Z will be the le based and le redpilled generation so you can beat him to death with a shovel for how utterly fucking wrong he was

And you are sure this isn't taking a few random tweets and claiming they represent the majority of Gen Z?

Considering Twitter for instance, only 22% of US adults use it, and only 10% or so are super active out of that percentage.
 
As an autistic aside, this reminds me of the passive-aggressive way that some speakers of certain Asian languages switch back to "polite form" when speaking with their lover to show that they're pissed off.

It makes me wonder if the full stop is seen as overly-formal for text messaging, a form of showing distance. I can see how the full-stop can come off as passive-aggressive, especially now that some people intentionally use it to show irritation.

Still don't care about hurt feelings, but linguistics is interesting.
 
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Clearly the solution is to phase out an entirely necessary part of written language instead of trying to figure out how to explain to immature morons that there's no hidden meaning in a period.
yes of course this is the inevitable outcome at this point anyway i mean who doesnt love run on sentences it's so easy to read and understand obviously punctuation is just archaic and oppressive we should just revert to using emojis as modern hieroglyphics anyway cuz it's way more colorful and easy to read i for one have a hard time reading anything that doesnt have pictures and pop ups cuz my attention span is just so low anything that takes longer than 10 seconds to comprehend is completely beyond me but bright colors and pretty pictures really help keep me engaged
 
Do you think they all sit round the newsroom and double dare each other to pick a thing and write an ‘x is racist’ article about it. Maybe they have a little random word generator. You next next Susan! (Spins wheel) four hundreds words on Why Elbows are Racist by 4pm!
 
Human language and general communication is devolving thanks to social media and technology.

You can't dislike anything anymore you can only thumbs up and smiley faces.

People with poker faces type smiley faces to each other.

People can't string two sentences together because their brains can only think in 140 character limit.

Thousands of years from now everything left of us will probably be bleached graffiti saying ACAB BLM with smileys and dicks around it with some fossilized fecal matter around the area left over after a chimp out.
 
This article is most likely the results of some washed-up linguists trying to understand why a generation that communicates mostly in singular phrases doesn't use periods. Specifically, an answer that isn't "they're lazy", where the answer is more likely because there's no real reason to do so when communicating over the internet (Which is how most zoomers communicate).

To play Devil's Advocate here, however, some shorter phrases do seem to become slightly more negative(?) when you stick a full stop on them. Compare something like "lmao" to "lmao." - but it's still an argument that make very little sense, if at all.
 
"Full stop" is one of those dumb phrases you'll see used by idiots on Reddit and the like, it'll be something "Wow guys that's a BIG YIKES from me, Trump is a literal fascist and you know he locks children in cages right? He has to be removed from office by any means necessary, full stop."
wot
A period, like punctuation not like a crimson waterfall

oh ok.

this article is gay
 
The amount of periods in this article is very triggering

Yeah I was gonna mention that a lot of people here seem both very curt and very angry

Calm down pls
(Also there's a really good Whomp comic about this)
 
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