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Not really sure where this belongs, but I thought this might be of interest to all y'all. Feel free to move it if appropriate. Please bear with me as this is my first "real" topic in my several years here, even though it's not exactly a cow and there are no lols to be found.
A few days ago, a Youtuber posted a video interview accusing two prominent creepypasta Youtubers of child grooming. This video includes text messages and other documentation.
The interviewer Pastel Belle has a thread here, but it's locked. I had never heard of her before this incident and I don't know if she's a reliable source. She seems pretty pozzed but that doesn't mean her interviewee is lying. I'll do my best to summarize, but you really should watch all of them for yourself.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I enjoy CreepsMcPasta's narrations, but aside from that I don't know a damn thing about the guy. Never really cared. Everything above is simply the allegations.
Now for the opinion part. CMP's defense seems pretty weak. I don't know who would want to impersonate CMP was back then when he was a small timer. Plus, he did work with Kumori on a couple videos. Like SB pointed out, it's hard for me to believe that Kumori was talking to Liquid CMP while also working with Solid CMP and neither of them figured out something was fucked up. SB's counter video strikes me as fairly devastating. I don't WANT CMP to be a pedork, but...I think he might be. And that's terrible. EDIT: I've changed my mind. I do still think CMP has significant holes in his story. But the more the story has unfolded, and the more I've learned about the people involved in accusing him... this smells like a hitjob. But that's just one Kiwi's opinion.
Fellow autists... tell me what you think.
PS - I've archived all the videos locally but most of it is too big to upload. Wat do?
A few days ago, a Youtuber posted a video interview accusing two prominent creepypasta Youtubers of child grooming. This video includes text messages and other documentation.
The interviewer Pastel Belle has a thread here, but it's locked. I had never heard of her before this incident and I don't know if she's a reliable source. She seems pretty pozzed but that doesn't mean her interviewee is lying. I'll do my best to summarize, but you really should watch all of them for yourself.
- The person making the allegations goes by the name of Kumori, AKA KuroChanFox. Her internet footprint is minimal based on a cursory search, but I'm not an experienced doxer.
- Kumori was a fan of prominent Youtube creepypasta narrator CreepsMcPasta (hereafter CMP) in his early days.
- At the time, CMP was 21 and Kumori was 12.
- She fangirl'd all over him and they struck up a friendship.
- CMP wanted a Pikachu onesie like CMP had as part of his persona. He sent her money for one. She claims to have a picture but it isn't shown. Probably because she was 12, but that does still mean it can't be verified.
- She expressed interest in becoming a creepypasta narrator.
- CMP offered Kumori a collab, which she did.
- Friendship become romantic/sexual around this time.
- At some point, Kumori sent CreepsMcPasta a nekkid shot, which he received with enthusiasm.
- Eventually Kumori's father found out about this. He cut down her internet.
- Kumori remained in contact with CMP behind her parents' back.
- CMP still indicated to Kumori that he loved her and wanted to be with her.
- Kumori considered becoming an hero, I think due to being cut off from contact with CreepsMcPasta, but it's slightly ambiguous in the video.
- Police were contacted and Kumori was sent to a crisis center.
- Kumori's father attempted to file chargers but CMP was in the UK.
- Even after the crisis center, Kumori remained in contact with CMP off and on.
- After a prolonged period of no contact, CMP moved on from Kumori, having gotten another girlfriend, legal this time.
- Kumori alleges that CPJ is a gore fetishist.
- Somewhere in the middle of all this, CPJ, who was part of the same group chat, sent Kumori gore shit.
- He told her he sexually fantasized about being her hit by a car.
- And then he jacked off to said fantasy.
- CPJ and CMP were friends, but Kumori doesn't think they were conspiring against her.
- CPJ is more of a footnote here compared to CMP.
- But Kumori is still 12 here, so...
- The text messages supposedly from CMP are shown as being from someone named Jacob, but according to Wikitubia, CMP's real name is Nicholas. I have been unable to verify which name, if either, is accurate. But I'm not very well versed in this sort of thing. Whether CMP lied to Jessica about his name or something else happened, I don't know.
- CMP is attempting The Shaggy Defense. He claims that whoever Kumori was in contact with, wasn't him.
- Claims someone impersonated him.
- Claims his friends and family saw the alleged messages and immediately knew it wasn't him.
- Claims that the messages aren't in his writing style and uses words he doesn't use. He posts some things of his that he claims are samples of his texts and admittedly the style is quite different, but read on.
- Claims that one of his own messages claims he was "at work", during a time when he was at college and not working. Hard to verify with certainty, but again, read on.
- Claims that someone tried to sign up to Instagram with his username, but he eventually got it back, trying to demonstrate that someone has impersonated him in the past.
- Claims that he has never owned the CreepsMcPasta Skype username, and that someone else got to it before him.
- Claims the age listed on Chatango is wrong, and he has never used it.
- Claims that he doesn't remember Kumori, despite the collab with her. He claims it was just a one off and she happened to be available at the time, but he had no relationship with her.
- EDIT: Makes the point that Kumori suggested starting a gaming channel, but Solid CMP would've known that he already HAD a gaming channel even before his creepypasta channel. (Apologies for missing this before, I was trying to boil down a lot of info. Thanks to Sparkletor 2.0 for pointing this out.)
- CMP lost 10 million views on his channel, but it's not explained why (deleted videos I guess, but it's not clear which).
- CMP has edited Pokemon: Jessica to remove the description reference to KuroChanFox. (CMP claims this was done several years ago for unrelated reasons. I don't know how to confirm or deny.)
- Believe whammen.
- SB demonstrates numerous examples that CMP does, in fact, type the way he claimed not to, on a verified account.
- SB demonstrates that CMP did, in fact claim to be "at work" in some messages around the time of the alleged incident, on a verified account.
- SB demonstrates that Chatango accounts don't use DOB, they use a simple age field that needs to be updated manually.
- SB points out that it's unlikely that they worked on a collab together and Liquid CMP never came up in conversation.
- SB documents the shit out of this and shows his work in a way that makes me wonder if he's a Kiwi Farmer, archiving fucking everything and showing exactly how he found what he did.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I enjoy CreepsMcPasta's narrations, but aside from that I don't know a damn thing about the guy. Never really cared. Everything above is simply the allegations.
Now for the opinion part. CMP's defense seems pretty weak. I don't know who would want to impersonate CMP was back then when he was a small timer. Plus, he did work with Kumori on a couple videos. Like SB pointed out, it's hard for me to believe that Kumori was talking to Liquid CMP while also working with Solid CMP and neither of them figured out something was fucked up. SB's counter video strikes me as fairly devastating. I don't WANT CMP to be a pedork, but...
Fellow autists... tell me what you think.
PS - I've archived all the videos locally but most of it is too big to upload. Wat do?
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