U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

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WonderWino said:
.....Is that guy legitimately insane? Who the hell is going around teaching people to tackle someone with an assault rifle who just shot people? What kind of idiot would think that was a good idea at all? Thats exactly how people darwin award themselves. These people should ask the red army how charging people with guns turns out. Even if you did manage to tackle someone in such a situation you'll die doing it
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Can't PL too much, but I just had to explain to several friends why tackling someone with a knife is a great way to get your ass killed, or at the very least lose a whole lot of blood and get some scars.

I can't say this enough: the vast majority of people in the first world have zero understanding of violence. Everything is abstracted and compartmentalized in their minds because they've only ever read vague descriptions of it. It's scarily similar to the underpants gnome meme.

Step 1: Tackle
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Problem solved!

The thing I don't get is, I've never been in a knife fight. I don't ever wish to get in a knife fight. But I am keenly aware that if someone has a knife, the only safe way to handle them is with a ranged weapon. It seems so obvious. The only counter to a weapon is another weapon with greater reach. It's common sense. So why do so many people think that bear hugging someone means you won't get stabbed? How is it possible to come to that conclusion?
 
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ErrForceOnez said:
I expected that could be the case after the first night of the convention, and more so after the second. The fake pre recorded clapping, the awful cringey music performances, and the constant pausing, as if everything was delayed and everyone was missing their queue. I'm positive that a decent amount of that shit was pre recorded, especially the clapping, and even that was full of 2 to 3 second long blank stares before abruptly starting to clap. Even biden at one point just stared off into the distance looking as senile as ever.

The republican convention was bland enough that it wasn't able to hurt, and I had expected that all Trump would need to have a big boost was an actual crowd. It was such a contrast, even with the relatively low energy of crowd he had, I think it will end up puting him ahead in the majority of the polls.
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The DNC convention tech and production errors are what you get when you stop hiring on merit and start hiring on diversity quotas.
I'm glad they practice what they preach, and I'm more glad the fruits of diversity hire glare so blatantly for all to see. :story:
 
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Roybertitos said:
Birdshot's good if some asshole is 5ft away from you in your house and don't wanna overpenetrate through the walls and hit someone who isn't criminal filth. Anything beyond that, you go for either buckshot or a slug, I wouldn't trust it to put anything down in one shot at a distance.

Remember guys, the objective in self-defense isn't to maim or hurt, it's to kill. If someone's coming at you with dangerous intentions, it's better for you that the courts hear only one side of the story.
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its like the 5.56 vs 7.62 argument. its one thing with paper and ballistic gel its another with a real body. sometimes a guy gets shot in the head but the skull deflects the round and he's scalped not killed. people have been able to fight even after getting shot in the chest and heart.

if youre in kenosha kyle's situation, birdshot is fine; he couldve blown that arm clean off. but if youre in kenosha kyle's situation you're fucked after you empty your shotgun.

if the mob is outside your house, its a little different since you can barricade yourself and have space to reload. and you can have people to help out.

when it comes down to it, you wont really know until it happens.
 
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Unassuming Local Guy said:
Can't PL too much, but I just had to explain to several friends why tackling someone with a knife is a great way to get your ass killed, or at the very least lose a whole lot of blood and get some scars.

I can't say this enough: the vast majority of people in the first world have zero understanding of violence. Everything is abstracted and compartmentalized in their minds because they've only ever read vague descriptions of it. It's scarily similar to the underpants gnome meme.

Step 1: Tackle
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Problem solved!

The thing I don't get is, I've never been in a knife fight. I don't ever wish to get in a knife fight. But I am keenly aware that if someone has a knife, the only safe way to handle them is with a ranged weapon. It seems so obvious. The only counter to a weapon is another weapon with greater reach. It's common sense. So why do so many people think that bear hugging someone means you won't get stabbed? How is it possible to come to that conclusion?
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How do people come to that conclusion? Hollywood, most likely.
A decade ago, someone on /k/ said something really wise when it comes to knife fights:
The loser dies on the spot, the winner dies on his way to the hospital.

Knife-Fighting is really nasty and insanely dangerous. Even if you manage to give your opponent a mortal wound, he's still capable of doing the same to you.
If you're really fucking good at knife fighting and your opponent is not, you might have a chance to get out without dying, but chances are, the other guy just needs to be a bit lucky once and he'll fuck your shit up with a random stab or slash.

This is also why it is absolutely justified when a cop shoots a guy that "only" holds a knife.
 
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Indianapolis update
I posted some of this earlier in an edit but it bears watching


I fear Indy may have it's Zimmerman/Martin moment. A security guard involved in a shooting has caused trouble before.
https://twitter.com/lashell___/status/1299344301789450240
https://archive.vn/I6fov




People are pissed at Indy's mayor since May happened

Someone tweeted this this morning https://archive.vn/pS8j2
 
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Gotta love it when you're sent constant emails about social issues from the dean of the medical school you're paying several grand to attend every year. Nice to see he's already made his conclusions and wants us to adopt them as well. You know what else made significant impacts? The bullets Kyle shot in self-defense.

I can't wait until he gets off - the amount of cope from my faculty and some classmates is going to be wonderful.
 
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So I have to ask.

It's been a bit, was the Rosenbaum guy shot in Kenosha actually a child rapist? Surely it has to be a mistake, like the wrong Rosenbaum or "something."
 
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So I have to ask.

It's been a bit, was the Rosenbaum guy shot in Kenosha actually a child rapist? Surely it has to be a mistake.
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He was. He got the charge in Arizona in 2002 where he was 18 at the time. Arizona has Romeo And Juliet laws in place, provided that the other party is no less than 15 old. In other words, he, an 18 year old, fucked a kid who was less than 15 years old, which is not a good look no matter how you cut it.
 
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X Prime said:
So I have to ask.

It's been a bit, was the Rosenbaum guy shot in Kenosha actually a child rapist? Surely it has to be a mistake, like the wrong Rosenbaum or "something."
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He was convicted of sex with a minor and on the registry.
He was 18 at the time and the CURRENT (not when convicted, they may have changed....I don't think anyone has confirmed) law is that he would have had to have sex with someone 15 or younger. Also possibly a proper child rape since we don't have data either way.
Edit: Ninja'd....Also I thought it was 15 or younger, not younger than 15.
 
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X Prime said:
So I have to ask.

It's been a bit, was the Rosenbaum guy shot in Kenosha actually a child rapist? Surely it has to be a mistake, like the wrong Rosenbaum or "something."
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It looks like the same one with a similar mugshot and everything. He was 18 when it happened so it's possible it was a romeo and juliet deal but he seems to have done some serious time for it and was apparently a complete chimp in lockup.
 
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Gotta love it when you're sent constant emails about social issues from the dean of the medical school you're paying several grand to attend every year. Nice to see he's already made his conclusions and wants us to adopt them as well. You know what else made significant impacts? The bullets Kyle shot in self-defense.

I can't wait until he gets off - the amount of cope from my faculty and some classmates is going to be wonderful.
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Several weeks ago I got an email sent to the entire student body and alumni mailing list of a school I attended apologizing for letting cops use one of their bathrooms, in a building that's open to the public anyways. Hopefully the universities all crash and burn in the wake of covid and pushback against the sjw echo chambers they've built themselves into now that woke rage has boiled over nationwide. Then they'll either have to get their acts together and actually teach like they were meant to or shut the fuck down and stop poisoning all these kids' minds.
 
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break these cuffs said:
That would be a wave defense in which case Mike would want a mounted beltfed. I also don't think Mike has a regiment with him in his house to assault that group.
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A Vickers or MG08 should be part of every proper living room and bedroom furniture. Ask the Matabele for their opinion on watercooled machine guns.
 
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They started switching over to ARs a decade ago. I'm sure some still roll shotty, but patrol officers also aren't an assault team who kill people in buildings for a living.

edit. Actually they started replacing them 20 years ago after the North Hollywood shootout.
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When the federal government began giving them thousands of old M-16s after, you're right, the bank robbery shootout (in which cops were actually going to local gun shops to borrow rifles and ammunition). However, that is not a home-defense situation, is it? And if it involves a distance beyond the range of a 12-gauge with BB or #6 buck -- hell, #6 bird -- then it isn't home defense, it's playing soldier. And most people, despite their jism-stained AR-15s and other tacticoolness, lack both the training and mindset to undertake it, as witness a lot of comments here that are going to get people killed if they follow the advice therein. I'm unwilling to powerlevel, but I know whereof I speak.
 
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Who dat? said:
Bullshit squared. The object of the exercise is to eliminate the threat. If you were to say -- if little Kyle were to say, but he's probably too smart for that -- that a defensive shot was intended to kill, it's also a shot to spend a long time in prison.
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Well what I mean is that the objective is to make sure that when you hit a dude, he stays down, which means hitting him center mass, which usually leads to death. Maybe in an ideal world, anytime someone blows away some asshole trying to break into their home they get a handshake from the cops and that's that, but if he survives it could lead to criminal charges on you.

In states where stand your ground laws and castle doctrine aren't a thing, you could end up in court for an unjust shooting if there's any doubt that you weren't in fear of your life. At the very least it could lead to your guns taken away, then what will you defend yourself with?

But hey, I ain't a legal expert nor am I some self defense guru, I'm just a gun sperg repeating shit I read from old gun magazines my grandfather left me.

EDIT: Perhaps I worded it in an edge lord way, but I wanna be clear I'm not saying that you should execute criminals, that's obviously not self defense. What I'm talking about is no warning shots and not aiming for the legs or arms. The former can be construed that you were not in immediate threat of death in court and the latter is way too hard to pull off while adrenaline is pumping.
 
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