U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

How is that even legal? Saying you're only going to fill hiring positions with a certain race and no one else can qualify?

It’s not. Some employment lawyers are going to be buying some new luxury cars in the next year or two when the inevitable class action lawsuits come raining down.

It's almost like the 1964 Civil RIghts Act was pointless and LBJ and others knew that.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Don't worry everyone, Vice is here to tell everyone the truth about Kyle;

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/7kpj4b/alleged-kenosha-killer-loved-cops-guns-trump-and-triggering-the-libs-classmates-say

Apologies, I am a tragic newcomer and fail archiving.

That said for your satisfaction the context I saw this in was a thread that while posting this also had the majority demanding that any attempts to discuss any of his victims should not factor in the criminal history of any of his victims because that's irrelevant to how things turned out.
Trump Supporter - well their unnamed classmates totally knew they wanted to kill people
Actual Convicts - how dare you bring that up, he could not have known, their history is no indication they were not heroes acting with the best of intent

https://archive.is/0cFZZ

You have much to learn, Padawan.

I love how these blm niggers and the race traitors that support them think that they're "revolting against the system". Meanwhile, conservative content creators get nuked from youtube and mainstream platforms in general, saying all lives matter/white lives matter/being against blm will get you doxed, fired, and probably killed, saying white power is deemed as racist, but saying black power is seen as not racist. Not a hot take, I know, but it's a good one nonetheless.

Another thing that pisses me off is that for years we have had ANTIFA and Black Bloc motherfuckers that have traveled all around to protect indigenous, LGBTLMNOP, whatever, communities and they have visited violence on the larger community.

What is the result?
They get elected officials supporting them giving the asspats.
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But this kid travels what most people in Los Angeles would consider a short commute and he cannot defend that community.

It has become increasingly clear that the other side had no consistent moral or ethical standards. They will crack your head open with a bike lock and get probation but if you defend yourself?

Four years in prison.

A protester states that she is going to travel 100's of miles to an event to collect 100 NAZI scalps and is punched?

They are the victim.

Again, these people have no consistent moral or ethical standards. As an atheist, I cannot answer questions of divine morality but perhaps some KIWI theologians can.

Do these protesters have souls?

Do reporters have souls?

In your religion, does your deity view the killing of morally feckless individuals as a sin, a service to the deities greatness, or an ambiguity?

The thing about it is that the left wing has points you can flower up into things that look nice for advertisers (against racism, against homophobia, etc). That alone can explain why the mainstream has gone all in on things like BLM. Also, Antifa sees themselves as revolutionaries going against Trump because they see him as preventing America from being the progressive utopia they were promised by the likes of Obama, or Hillary, or Bernie. The thing Antifa has had going for it is that any destruction of property is stuff that can be painted as being constructs of Trump so they can be seen as “fighting the good fight”, and property damage and looting to some like #TheSquad isn’t something that can be directly connected to Antifa’s antics. Not only that, but all the major Antifa activity is seen in major leftist hubs like Seattle and Portland, where most people would tacitly endorse things like Antifa and CHAZ as going against Trump’s system so long as they aren’t directly affected.

 

[Driftwood]

The loudness of any particular AR in my experience has a lot more to do with the muzzle break.

Informative. Again, I am no gunfag (in the sense I am ignorant and learning), just I have a hard time identifying with the author based on my experience.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

Again: This is the kind of strategy that fucks up their own side. After all, they sacrifice their own strongholds by fucking over blue states and cities.

I think the riots weren't supposed to go on this long. They thought Trump would use the insurrection act before the damage would reach elephantine proportions.

I'm not sure why else democratic politicians and reporters would have tried so hard to defang their police force and pretend the riots were totally peaceful unless they were actively trying to screw themselves over. It's possible they were, but why?

 

[Gehenna]

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Yeah nah. Not buying into this whole "The riots are 5D chess to make Trump use lethal force so we can get rid of him but he didn't take the bait" shtick.
For one, it is ridiculous that they'd sacrifice several cities. This does so much damage to anything they might want to achieve that only a complete and utter fool would attempt something like this. The damage is not limited to the cities that burn down, it also affects the political climate on a global scale. That is a very bad thing, impossible to control and very damaging to anything these people might want... and to do what? To get rid of an orange blowfan?
As I said: It's like cutting off your hand over a torn nail. The cost never is worth what you get out of it, even if it had worked.
If they wanted to get rid of Trump THIS badly, they might as well just shoot his ass.

Frankly, this whole "Trump outsmarted the [whoever] by not playing into their trap" sounds like wishful thinking to me. Occam's Razor suggests that these riots are far less nefarious in nature... not like that makes them any more pleasant, but the idea that a national entity such as the CIA and... I dunno... the DNC would go this far to get rid of Trump when they have a million ways, all cheaper and more easy, is just nothing I can believe in. Especially when you consider that Trump isn't as hostile to all these established entities as you might think. He has fired a couple people, but that's not nearly enough to shake things up. And why shouldn't we assume that this plays into the hands of the likes of the CIA and so on?
I can just as easily make the case that whoever you think is behind all this is actually in cahoots with Trump for some silly reason. It's just a guess either way.



Why should they be stopped by something like that now all of a sudden? They have direct access to Trump and everyone around Trump. If they want him gone, they can have him be gone within days. If they don't want to kill him, there is about a dozen substances to make him go full vegetable and no one would be the wiser.
The biggest weakness in most conspiracy theories is that an entity is seen as infallible, intelligent and all-mighty and at the same time fails to do the most asinine tasks like slipping a pill into someone's drink when that is the very foundation and their bread and butter.

Its not 5D chess though, its literally basic political calculus. "We 'know' Trump is a Nazi and is strong on crime, so we'll give him a chance to show off and have narratives and photos ready to publicize". There's nothing 5D about it, its basic Cause and Effect, with some minor planning around how to capitalize on it. You see politicians do this with photo ops all the time, the only thing strenuous is creating the photo-op. Which all THAT required was to massively signal boost a subject with enough tension, something already known how to do and when due to Ferguson.

Its literally just remembering a handful of years prior, and applying cause and effect... and faulty assumptions.

Also, this wasn't "Sacrificing several cities" it was "Burning down the poorest region of one major city, assuming that Trump will come in hard early on, meaning they sacrifice very little".

Please respond to what was actually said, rather than your own hyperbole.

Also, Trump didn't outsmart anyone with this, this is just you inserting stuff I never said. He didn't respond with what they wanted because he's not a Nazi looking for the first chance to bash heads in the name and Law & Order. Its not a matter of smarts, its a matter of the Democrats making a bad assumption about what his knee jerk reaction would be and him not doing it. I doubt the idea to NOT do it even crossed the man's brain, he just simply didn't do it.

Now, do you have any good counters, or is it just going to be more hyperbole misrepresentation?

 

[break these cuffs]

First time I shot an AR, I didn't have my ear plugs in snugly, it was an indoor range, and the rental AR had a muzzle brake. I was deaf in my left ear for about a day and a half.

At least you didn't cry like that Swedish fag and that journalist who wrote about how shooting an AR gave him PTSD.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

The short reason why not: The Secret Service

The longer reason: Ever since JFK, the presidents security has gotten a LOT stronger. Like holy shit stronger. The SS has toys that the MILITARY has deemed too expensive to use. Additionally, they have crack forensic teams, and levels of paranoia and training that are mind numbing. Its not that people don't want Pence, its that it is now a LOT harder to get past a wall of near-fanatical zealots whose sole reason for being is to keep one man alive.

And to get PAST that you'd need to INVEST, you'd need a lot of money and assets thrown around. Which would be way more traceable and way more visible than any attempt to unseat the president would want to be. Its too likely to fail, and too likely to come back on anyone who tries, to be a feasible choice in the modern era.

Given what you propose, it stands to reason that the CIA should have their fingers somewhere in the pie out of sheer necessity. Infiltrating would be hard but not impossible and it would be very handy for any number of reasons.

I mean, as you said, I can't claim to have all the pieces and I might just as be easily wrong as I may be right, I'm not claiming to know the answer, I just want to express my doubt over such theories as that the CIA (or whoever) wants to get rid of Trump by essentially burning down half their own neighborhoods.
From a strategical point of view, the idea that someone would torch their own buildings, hoping their enemy will storm in to fall into a trap by doing so... even in the best case scenario, you're still left with a burning house. So, say Trump would have done what you suggest and gets impeached... how does one put a cork on nation-wide civil unrest? It doesn't just magically disappear - or ist that the next leap of faith, that the strategist would have to take? First blindly hope that Trump will do exactly what they need him to do (or else they succcumb) and then just assume that they can somehow stop this whole madness?
As I said: I don't know the truth, but this is just way too vague for my taste.

 

[inception_state]

I've always been skeptical of this notion. If the powers that be REALLY wanted him gone, they'd just JFK his ass and blame it on some blue haired tranny. I get the "Pence is his insurance policy" argument and all, but they could just pull another magic bullet out of their ass and get a double kill next time they're in the same place at the same time.
There's definitely more to the story here.

Because assassination attempts on presidents either turn them into a hero or a martyr. JFK and Lincoln are two of the most famous and best-regarded presidents in history in large part because they were assassinated, and Reagan's approval rating hit 73% after surviving getting shot. Oh, and if you get caught in the process? Everyone involved gets the chair. It's pretty obvious really why only nutjobs try it.

 

[Salubrious]

Sorry if this was posted, I haven't caught up from last night.


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The comments give me some hope for humanity.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

how does one put a cork on nation-wide civil unrest?

You let the police do their job, call the rioters white supremacists and change the media headlines to something positive. Things only got so bad because law enforcement was cucked by their higher ups.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Because assassination attempts on presidents either turn them into a hero or a martyr. JFK and Lincoln are two of the most famous and best-regarded presidents in history in large part because they were assassinated, and Reagan's approval rating hit 73% after surviving getting shot. Oh, and if you get caught in the process? Everyone involved gets the chair. It's pretty obvious really why only nutjobs try it.

If he had a stroke that turned him into a vegetable, they'd be rid of him without turning him into a martyr.
Given the CIA dabbled in many, many uses for strange substances, I have no doubt they have something to cause such an effect tbh.

You let the police do their job, call the rioters white supremacists and change the media headlines to something positive. Things only got so bad because law enforcement was cucked by their higher ups.

And this wouldn't cause massive backlash? This whole thing started (as it usually does) with a grainy video from someone's smartphone. Any crackdown by police would be spread via the internet within seconds. This is a bit of a weakness in this ploy, to assume that one could just easily stop the riots dead in their tracks, once they served their purpose.
This is an oversight someone in a position to plan this wouldn't make.
No sane strategist makes a plan where his opponent wins by doing nothing. No sane strategist has a follow-through plan that mops up everything (and "Let cops do their job" is not sufficient).

 

[Gehenna]

Given what you propose, it stands to reason that the CIA should have their fingers somewhere in the pie out of sheer necessity. Infiltrating would be hard but not impossible and it would be very handy for any number of reasons.

I mean, as you said, I can't claim to have all the pieces and I might just as easily wrong as I may be right, I'm not claiming to know the answer, I just want to express my doubt over such theories as that the CIA (or whoever) wants to get rid of Trump by essentially burning down half their own neighborhoods.
From a strategical point of view, the idea that someone would torch their own buildings, hoping their enemy will storm in to fall into a trap by doing so... even in the best case scenario, you're still left with a burning house. So, say Trump would have done what you suggest and gets impeached... how does one put a cork on nation-wide civil unrest? It doesn't just magically disappear - or ist that the next leap of faith, that the strategist would have to take? First blindly hope that Trump will do exactly what they need him to do (or else they succcumb) and then just assume that they can somehow stop this whole madness?
As I said: I don't know the truth, but this is just way too vague for my taste.

This is ironically a better response to my longer post than the actual response you gave to my longer post. Wat?

Well, to answer the NON hypbole:

The idea was that Trump would crack down hard and fast first. So you are left with a city burning a bit, but its a hard blue city so its acceptable losses. Note, JUST one.

Trump would crack down, get things in order FOR them, and provide plenty of easy photo ops. Then trigger impeachment based on it. He breaks the riots, they reap the rewards.


To use your house analogy, they basically let a group of people set fire to a crack house they owned while watching from the mansion across the road and then cashed in the insurance policy. Yah, they are out one crackhouse, but they have 10 mansions, and got something out of the crackhouse burning.


Now, you DO raise an additional good point, that of the unrest which would occur after. Simply put, the democrats are racist as fuck, and believe they are OWED the black vote. Think of Biden's campaign right now, trying to claim they'll totally fix the racism of america when he gets in office. Its the same idea, the democrats have consistently shown they believe they can mollify the angry hordes with gibs. The sad part is, it historically has worked...

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

 

[Shroom King]

a while ago there was talk about how allegedly a few high ranking military leaders were going to publicly disobey orders to deploy against the riots. i think that might have been part of the plan: have trump call in the army, have the army say "no fuck you you are nasty dictator war criminal for trying to do this", and then use the public fallout from that situation to force both trump and pence out of office, in which case the speaker of the house (pelosi i think?) becomes acting president

It was way earlier in the thread where the national head of the Air National Guard made an official statement in support of BLM.

 

[Grandpa Simpson]

Occam's Razor suggests that these riots are far less nefarious in nature... not like that makes them any more pleasant, but the idea that a national entity such as the CIA and... I dunno... the DNC would go this far to get rid of Trump when they have a million ways, all cheaper and more easy, is just nothing I can believe in. Especially when you consider that Trump isn't as hostile to all these established entities as you might think. He has fired a couple people, but that's not nearly enough to shake things up.

Things have already been shaken up. You don't actually think this would've happened under Hillary do you?

 

[stupidpieceofshit]

How late could he file charges?

Any time before the statue of limitations hits, as I am unsure if minor in possition of a firearm (or what ever WI calls it) is a felony or not I have no idea what the time limit is for WI but for non-felonies it appears to be three years.

It's almost like the 1964 Civil RIghts Act was pointless and LBJ and others knew that.

On the other hand the 1968 Civil Right Act also signed by LBJ did include the anti-riot act ( 18 U.S.C. § 2101 ) which antifa, BLM, et al have all been violating, so there is hope that federal charges will happen. It might could be used if Twitter is found to be giving preferable treatment to accounts supporting/aiding the riots.

 

[Gehenna]

If he had a stroke that turned him into a vegetable, they'd be rid of him without turning him into a martyr.
Given the CIA dabbled in many, many uses for strange substances, I have no doubt they have something to cause such an effect tbh.

The Secret Service handles all of Trump's meals, and its vetting process is amazing. The CIA has been mythologized as some sort of all powerful intelligence agency, but this is simply not true. The Bay of Pigs anyone? The simple truth is, the CIA can't get a man that close, and that assuming they even WANTED to. While there are factions in the CIA hostile to Trump, I SEVERELY DOUBT that the CIA as a whole has it in for Trump, and sneaking a guy into his SS detail would be something the whole organization would need to work towards.

 

[Spit bucket]

Sorry if this was posted, I haven't caught up from last night.


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Wheeler's response for NG aid is icing on the fucking cake of stupidity. This motherfucker better not start complaining when after all this is done his shithole of a city is nothing but a bombed out wasteland of abandoned businesses and empty streets.

 

[Random Internet Person]

The Secret Service handles all of Trump's meals, and its vetting process is amazing. The CIA has been mythologized as some sort of all powerful intelligence agency, but this is simply not true. The Bay of Pigs anyone? The simple truth is, the CIA can't get a man that close, and that assuming they even WANTED to. While there are factions in the CIA hostile to Trump, I SEVERELY DOUBT that the CIA as a whole has it in for Trump, and sneaking a guy into his SS detail would be something the whole organization would need to work towards.

So what I’m hearing is the CIA is more akin to what I’d see in an episode of American Dad?

 

[Quixotic Man]

Sorry if this was posted, I haven't caught up from last night.


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Has anything fucking improved in Portland since the Fed left?

It seems to be the same level of rioting every night. Ted is such a stupid incompetent cunt.