2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Syaoran Li]

NE-2 is turning blue, though. Same with Arizona. And vice versa in many NE/Midwest states. Demographics are always changing.

Virginia is solid blue now, and only going to get worse with Fairfax County gov't hacks. Trump actually did well in the rural VA areas in '16, but it doesn't mean shit.

True, although one thing 2020 has that 2016 didn't is the unpopularity of Northam across the state and Richmond getting assfucked by BLM rioters multiple times this summer.

If Virginia will ever go red one last time, it will be in 2020-2021.

 

[Made In China]

Then again, Biden really is that weak of a candidate and with the BLM riots gone out of control, it's possible they're going back to the pre-COVID plan of running Biden as a jobber and focusing on 2022 and 2024.

BLM riots aren't out of control yet though. If Trump loses 2020 the riots will immediately stop until the next election cycle, and since Americans have retard memories they'll forget all about the last time so this tactic will work forever.

 

[heyitsmike]

I don't find it useful to extrapolate voting trends while we're smack dab in the middle of a paradigm shift.

For example, the Dems are doubling down on the black vote and trying to get as much out of it as possible. But if I were a Native American Dem, and all I heard was Biden thinking about picking a black woman for VP, Black Lives Matter and reparations for black people... I might start to feel alienated. Same if I were a latino Dem. When was the last time the country rioted over a latino? I can't remember.

The Dems think they can change while everything else remains the same. They think they can keep the white Rust Belt, the latino/native southwest while actively marginalizing everyone but black people. So the fact that Nevada, Arizona and New Mexico have trended blue recently doesn't mean that's the way it's gonna stay.

The way we're headed, the Democratic Party will be solely for white saviors, helpless black people, Muslims and trannies. And the Republican Party for non woke whites, self sufficient blacks and everyone else.

 

[Syaoran Li]

BLM riots aren't out of control yet though. If Trump loses 2020 the riots will immediately stop until the next election cycle, and since Americans have retard memories they'll forget all about the last time so this tactic will work forever.

ChiComs are even worse when it comes to being retarded.

Seriously, Xi Jinping is an even more petty and incompetent Mao and the ChiCom bugmen still back his plays despite his regime being responsible for the global COVID-19 pandemic and the sheer damage the Yangtze floods have done this year.

If mainstream media like the New York Times is starting to back away from BLM and actually post articles that even consider the notion of Trump winning, that's the kind of shit that indicates the Democrats think BLM/Antifa are out of control and need to be corralled.

Your demoralization efforts will have no effect, you retarded quisling.

 

[XYZpdq]

This "Trump voters will become complacent and stay home" is such a meme.

Complacency only happens when your candidate is so uninspiring or shit that you're not enthusiastic to go out of your way to vote for the candidate. Like think of a Mitt Romney-tier candidate (hell many potential Hillary Clinton voters didn't turn out to vote even when the polls said she would win because nobody actually liked her or was enthusiastic to go vote for her). Trump is anything but uninspiring. Trump voters have proven not to be complacent with the fact that he has gotten one of the highest primary vote totals for an incumbent President that has no serious opposition.

He got 18 million votes. Roughly the same amount of primary votes that Biden had gotten in his contested, fragmented Democratic primary.

Even if the polls had Trump with a 15-percent lead, Trump voters will still turn out and vote. Voters like winners after all, don't they?

But I digress, because polls can't accurately cover Trump (and that's why I disregard all of them). Many of Trump's voters either refuse to answer the polls or never get polled at all.

yeah the fact that the God Emperor's turnout even in the primaries has been recordbreaking is something I take solace in

 

[Syaoran Li]

This "Trump voters will become complacent and stay home" is such a meme.

Complacency only happens when your candidate is so uninspiring or shit that you're not enthusiastic to go out of your way to vote for the candidate. Like think of a Mitt Romney-tier candidate (hell many potential Hillary Clinton voters didn't turn out to vote even when the polls said she would win because nobody actually liked her or was enthusiastic to go vote for her). Trump is anything but uninspiring. Trump voters have proven not to be complacent with the fact that he has gotten one of the highest primary vote totals for an incumbent President that has no serious opposition.

He got 18 million votes. Roughly the same amount of primary votes that Biden had gotten in his contested, fragmented Democratic primary.

Even if the polls had Trump with a 15-percent lead, Trump voters will still turn out and vote. Voters like winners after all, don't they?

But I digress, because polls can't accurately cover Trump (and that's why I disregard all of them). Many of Trump's voters either refuse to answer the polls or never get polled at all.

I have mo doubt Trump's voter base has a lot of energy but I also wouldn't put it past the DNC and the media companies to try this psyop tactic anyway because they took yet another wrong lesson from 2016

 

[GuntPunt]

I have mo doubt Trump's voter base has a lot of energy but I also wouldn't put it past the DNC and the media companies to try this psyop tactic anyway because they took yet another wrong lesson from 2016

That Democracy Institute poll posted said that 82% of Trump voters were enthusiastic compared to 40% of Biden voters. Biggest enthusiasm gap ever recorded I believe.

 

[King Daddy Telomerase]

I'm kinda scared that this is some DNC psyop to get a reverse of 2016 where Trump voters stay home because they'll assume he'll win no matter what.

If there's a psyop, it's still pretending like Everything is Fine with Biden winning with the lack of polls through August. I doubt their plan is going to change.

 

[spiritofamermaid]

Question for people: in 2018 to present, Trump was able to remove large portions of the illegal aliens in America (as well as use them for the census). Now, it's imo that most, if not all, of those votes went Dem.

However, now that a significant portion of said votes are gone, what effect will this have on the vote? After all, the counties in TX that were along the Mexican border (where imo the amount of illegals would concentrate) were a light blue.

I say 2018+ because most of the Republicans who lost their seats were Never Trumpers, so it's a little hard to get predictions from there.

 

[heyitsmike]

I also wouldn't put it past the DNC and the media companies to try this psyop tactic anyway

They ain't smart enough to get any of their plans to work outside the friendly confines of the Democratic Party.

Those dumb deplorables, unknown to them, are smarter than they think.

 

[Someone Awful]

This "Trump voters will become complacent and stay home" is such a meme.

Complacency only happens when your candidate is so uninspiring or shit that you're not enthusiastic to go out of your way to vote for the candidate. Like think of a Mitt Romney-tier candidate (hell many potential Hillary Clinton voters didn't turn out to vote even when the polls said she would win because nobody actually liked her or was enthusiastic to go vote for her). Trump is anything but uninspiring. Trump voters have proven not to be complacent with the fact that he has gotten one of the highest primary vote totals for an incumbent President that has no serious opposition.

He got 18 million votes. Roughly the same amount of primary votes that Biden had gotten in his contested, fragmented Democratic primary.

Even if the polls had Trump with a 15-percent lead, Trump voters will still turn out and vote. Voters like winners after all, don't they?

But I digress, because polls can't accurately cover Trump (and that's why I disregard all of them). Many of Trump's voters either refuse to answer the polls or never get polled at all.

Don't forget the inevitability of the Democrats pulling something that will magically "bump" Biden up back to double digits again in an attempt to demoralize Trump supporters. The reason why people speculate a psyops is because they want to build up the false impression that Trump supporters have won and as such, open them up to a blowback closer to election. Only this time, the narrative will not only be that Biden is winning, but that Trump cannot close the gaps.

There was a bump in the polls around October, 2016 right before the election. It can happen again. I'd bet on it in fact. Complacency can lead to demoralizing which leads to staying home out of defeatism. The Democrats will throw the kitchen sink if it means obtaining ultimate victory.

 

[tehpope]

Trump voters are not complacent. If they were, they wouldn't have came out in droves to vote in the primaries. When presidents are up for re-election, its usually just a formality. But this year, voters are breaking records for incumbent primaries.

this is some fucking 7d chess man. How the fuck didnt they predict that antagonizing whites calling them all racist pieces of shit when they make up like 75%+ of the US's population would backfire hard on them? Also if the DNC have realized that the BLM riots are working against them and are pissing off moderates in cities, why havent they dropped the BLM spergs yet? Is this their all in for the election?

Because the left is in denial of reality. They still think words like "fascist" and "racist" have any meaning to or power over the people they fight. Maybe to normies. They think they can say the magic words and white people will lie down and let you walk all over them. The left is in denial that things are going south for them. That most of the country is sick and tired of their shit.

Its all because they thought Obama's win in 2008 meant they won and would be in power forever and ever. That white people were fine with becoming a minority and hispanics were going to be the new majority. With these riots, they thought the other minority groups would join in with black people. And if they had all the minority groups rioting, Whites would have no choice but to give in to their demands. The left didn't realize the hispanic and asian communities has more in common with white people than they do with black people. So that's why people shit a brick when the Latin Kings came out to protect their communities rather than join in on the rioting.

Honestly, they could have gotten away with changing the world if they did it gradually. Instead they went off a cliff. Its indicative of today's society. Everyone wants everything instantly and don't want to wait for it.

 

[Lolcow Imperium]

I may be talking too soon, something may come up in the next few months, but I cannot for the life of me see the Democrats winning the election from this point in time. Their policies this year of supporting flat out rioting and the destruction of personal and private property have, in my opinion, killed any chance of them having support from moderates in cities.

Fuck moderates they've probably killed almost all of their support on the left wing of anyone who isnt a socialist or anything left of that (besides the celeberties on their payroll). "At least we aren't Trump" can only carry your sham of a party so far before people starting getting pissed off with you and start voting for Trump (or Kanye oh god please) because "at least we aren't the Democrats".

 

[GuntPunt]

I may be talking too soon, something may come up in the next few months, but I cannot for the life of me see the Democrats winning the election from this point in time. Their policies this year of supporting flat out rioting and the destruction of personal and private property have, in my opinion, killed any chance of them having support from moderates in cities.

Fuck moderates they've probably killed almost all of their support on the left wing of anyone who isnt a socialist or anything left of that (besides the celeberties on their payroll). "At least we aren't Trump" can only carry your sham of a party so far before people starting getting pissed off with you and start voting for Trump (or Kanye oh god please) because "at least we aren't the Democrats".

Like everything, their strategy is blame Trump. It can't work anymore because everyone knows Democrats are pulling this shit. Trump himself is going to Kenosha on Tuesday in a big-dick move to gloat and say "If the Democrats let me, we can have it peaceful like here." They can't tie him to it no matter what. The buck finally didn't stop with him.

 

[A Logging Company]

That looks extremely old fashioned.

70's font.

A 70's font for 70's styled riots. That 70's Show was set in Kenosha afterall.

 

[WonderWino]

Ruh Roh. The left isn't going to like this:

'Top US general says military will not escort Donald Trump from the White House if election disputed'

Top US general says military will not escort Donald Trump from the White House if election disputed

America's most senior general has declared the military will not intervene if Donald Trump were to decline to leave the White House following a disputed US election. In a letter to Congress, Mark Milley, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said he did not envisage soldiers playing any role

ca.news.yahoo.com

 

[BeboRefugee]

They can't at this point. They were hoping for Trump to retaliate with the Insurrection act and they could have their Kent State photo op, yet the only moment that has come close to that is Kenosha, where a 17 year old teen with a clean record defended himself against 3 felons and even the photo of the guy with his arm blown off was holding a gun. They can't use that. At the same time, the DNC has to own BLM. Pelosi knelt for them, all their Hollywood sycophants cheered them on Twitter, and all their corporations donated at the tune of billions. Giving up on it right now would be a bigger disaster because the far-left Bernie base they've been trying to court will immediately turn on them. Fuck, they're already turning on them in Seattle and Portland.

The DNC thought they could keep their pets on a leash but never bothered to train them, so now they're surprised when they bite back.

The thing I can't understand is why? Why would they do this? I mean I'm not gonna argue how much sway the DNC has over BLM, but they had the power to put a lid on the riots within the first week or so. Why commit to it and hope Trump overreacted? They knew the consequences, and genuinely, nothing else could be as damaging for the Democratic brand as college grads and ghetto thugs destroying their own communities. Before Minneapolis, what could have possibly derailed the Biden-Harris ticket on this scale? Both have to answer this crisis in 2 or 3 completely contradictory ways simultaneously in order to keep the Democratic Coalition afloat, and neither of them have the confidence (nor stamina) to do Trump-style running commentary on developments for hours at a time every single day.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

The thing I can't understand is why? Why would they do this? I mean I'm not gonna argue how much sway the DNC has over BLM, but they had the power to put a lid on the riots within the first week or so. Why commit to it and hope Trump overreacted? They knew the consequences, and genuinely, nothing else could be as damaging for the Democratic brand as college grads and ghetto thugs destroying their own communities. Before Minneapolis, what could have possibly derailed the Biden-Harris ticket on this scale? Both have to answer this crisis in 2 or 3 completely contradictory ways simultaneously in order to keep the Democratic Coalition afloat, and neither of them have the confidence (nor stamina) to do Trump-style running commentary on developments for hours at a time every single day.

Power. Power and desperation.

One of the things that hasn't been covered much is Trump has had Horowitz investigating the DOJ and FBI for the illegal games they'd been playing all through Obama's term and his own. If Trump gets a second term you're going to see a lot of swamp creatures... take sealed plea deals that involve them retiring from public life until this is all forgotten, realistically, but there's a chance that they could be arrested.

Remember the (possibly fake) Clinton quote: "You have to DO SOMETHING about this, if you don't we'll all be hanging by nooses!"

 

[break these cuffs]

I may be talking too soon, something may come up in the next few months, but I cannot for the life of me see the Democrats winning the election from this point in time. Their policies this year of supporting flat out rioting and the destruction of personal and private property have, in my opinion, killed any chance of them having support from moderates in cities.

Fuck moderates they've probably killed almost all of their support on the left wing of anyone who isnt a socialist or anything left of that (besides the celeberties on their payroll). "At least we aren't Trump" can only carry your sham of a party so far before people starting getting pissed off with you and start voting for Trump (or Kanye oh god please) because "at least we aren't the Democrats".

We can't say anything is in the bag at this point to because the world is in chaos and the DNC has shown just how desperate they are. A prime indication that it isn't misplaced hope is Biden's admission that Burn Loot Murder is not the best thing to happen to America since Barrack. It took them 3 months to start pushing back against the narrative. They were all in on it and wouldn't change it for no reason. They also got two big MSM mouthpieces to address this narrative nudge in the recent articles from NYT and The Hill. I'm sure there have been others and there will be more. They need to spin that the violence is bad, but giving up on equality and falling to racism is even worse. They are trying to court the largely white, on the fence suburban base who is horrified by what they are seeing. It's death and destruction in the streets while Democratic governors and mayors are allowing it, if not outright supporting it. Maybe Democratic leadership isn't such a good thing? Why hasn't Biden addressed this? Does he support the rioters? They were forced to address these questions and did it in the way least likely to offend the more radical left base they are trying to court.

The DNC would not change their narrative for no reason. This is a top down decsion from a monolithic organization that has shown themselves slow to react. They have seen some kind of metric to make them believe they need to change things. It may be as simple as the lack of enthusiam they're seeing for Biden and believing this half-hearted concession can bring doubters into the fold. The best support for a Trump reelection was making Sleepy Joe the candidate. Then the wuflu happened and that hurt Trump's chances. I don't think it would have been unrecoverable as people are historically unlikely to change leaders in times of crisis, but it hurt his chances imo. Now I believe these riots have caused another shift. I don't think we will know how big of one until election day. The narrative being pushed by celebrities, megacorps, the MSM, and social media is that you are a racist if you don't support Burn Loot Murder. Being called racist has lost a lot of sting for a lot of people over the last 5-10 years due to its overuse, but I still expect most people who are in the middle to keep relatively quiet about what they're thinking until they vote.

 

[heyitsmike]

Trump himself is going to Kenosha on Tuesday in a big-dick move to gloat and say "If the Democrats let me, we can have it peaceful like here."

But Biden still isn't leaving his cave until after Labor Day? WTF?