Mulan (2020) - Chink War Movie

RumblyTumbly said:
The term Mary Sue gets thrown around, and its apt, but I prefer to use "Superman + Tits - Kryptonite"

All the complaints I've heard about Superman over the years are absolutely present in a lot of these empowered female characters, but without any kind of weaknesses or enemies above the character (Aside from Kryptonite, Superman also has Darkseid, Brainiac, Bizzaro, Parasite, Doomsday and many others that can match him physically).

When you take away weaknesses and obstacles from the hero, then drama and tension just get sucked out of it. The climax to Captain Marvel might be the worst I've ever seen where she just becomes invincible god lady and nobody on the bad guy side comes anywhere close to being a match for her, so the whole thing is just a boring special effects 'splosion with no tension.
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Having an overpowered female character who doesn't have to work for anything is the most sexist thing that any movie producer can put into a film. It's the equivalent of saying, "I know you poor little girls out in the audience want a role model to look up to, but you're so fragile and hysterical that you could never endure watching a woman getting beaten, injured, or having to struggle for anything, so we'll nerf the film so that the main female character doesn't have to suffer and will be awesome just because she's a woman. " This kind of shit is setting women's rights back at least 50 years. Not to mention it's destroying any verisimilitude the film might have because we out in the audience KNOW that the reason the main female character is overpowered is because of Current Year Politics. It's the kind of thing that drags us right out of the story and reminds us that we're only watching a movie.
 
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You know, the shittiest part of making *this* Mulan not have to work for anything and just being the best because of magic or whatever, is that the original Mulan wasn't that way at all.

Almost everybody loves this song, even to this day. It isn't just a great song, it's also a great training montage. This Mulan wasn't just somehow magically awesome, she had to work her ass off. The song itself even shat on her- "You're unsuited for the rage of war, so pack up go home you're through. How could I make a man out of you?"

The fact that Mulan persevered through all of that, and does actually end up becoming legitimately awesome by the end of the song (and so do the rest of her platoon for that matter. The original film saw no reason to make them all suck just to make her look better.) is really pretty damn inspirational. I'm not even a little girl, and have obviously never been one, and even I found myself being inspired watching that clip again, just from one song.... And Disney saw fit to cut all of that out of this one, because Xinnie the Poo wouldn't like it or whatever.

I hope this film fails spectacularly.
 
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UnKillFill said:
You know, the shittiest part of making *this* Mulan not have to work for anything and just being the best because of magic or whatever, is that the original Mulan wasn't that way at all.

Almost everybody loves this song, even to this day. It isn't just a great song, it's also a great training montage. This Mulan wasn't just somehow magically awesome, she had to work her ass off. The song itself even shat on her- "You're unsuited for the rage of war, so pack up go home you're through. How could I make a man out of you?"

The fact that Mulan persevered through all of that, and does actually end up becoming legitimately awesome by the end of the song (and so do the rest of her platoon for that matter. The original film saw no reason to make them all suck just to make her look better.) is really pretty damn inspirational. I'm not even a little girl, and have obviously never been one, and even I found myself being inspired watching that clip again, just from one song.... And Disney saw fit to cut all of that out of this one, because Xinnie the Poo wouldn't like it or whatever.

I hope this film fails spectacularly.
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Damn, maybe that's it, maybe Disney's Chinese overlords don't want to give the peasants any ideas about a commie revolt.
 
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Honka Honka Burning Love said:
Mulan's entire story is meaningless because the emperor is so bad ass he can catch arrows barehanded?
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Are you implying that the ruler of China doesn’t have the super powers thanks to the Mandate of Heaven? Why, that would be preposterous! Of course the glorious leader of China can do whatever he chooses to.

I really wish that someone would’ve snuck a tiny Winnie the Pooh as a child’s toy in one of the destroyed villages. It could’ve been brand synergy!
 
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Ciscoipphone said:
That makes no sense lol it's not like they're glorifying scar. He's the villain. Or are they saying they don't want to hurt nazi feelings by villainizing them?

Lol should never have bowed to China and accomodated a 'historically accurate' mulan to fit the chinese audience. Get woke go broke
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The thing is too, the Nazi imagery is meant for parallel. Scar is very charismatic and is great at seducing people into following him, much like Hitler. He was trying to turn the Pride Lands into a dictatorship after all. And above all else, Scar himself looks like foreign, weak, and with very female moves.

And yeah, I pirated the Mulan movie. It was garbage.
 

Brad and his wife were disappointed even though Laura didn't mind it due to a low-bar expectation (Brad doesn't remember much of the animated movie to begin with, this was more of his wife's review as a bigger fan of the original movie). She described it as Mulan in a Marvel movie.

EDIT: Brad says he'd rather rewatch the live-action Aladdin than Mulan if given a choice.
 
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Kari Kamiya said:

Brad and his wife were disappointed even though Laura didn't mind it due to a low-bar expectation (Brad doesn't remember much of the animated movie to begin with, this was more of his wife's review as a bigger fan of the original movie). She described it as Mulan in a Marvel movie.

EDIT: Brad says he'd rather rewatch the live-action Aladdin than Mulan if given a choice.
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That's one of the things that really pisses me off about these remakes, that the directors seem to approach them as though they're fucking Marvel movies.

The Lion King was a perfect example. Near the beginning of the movie, when Mufasa walks in on Scar terrorizing Zazu, the way he says "Scar" is amplified as if Thor is making an off-screen entry and the lighting and musical swell do the exact same thing, like Thor just made his entrance.

The same thing happens near the end when Rafiki sees the stick he uses as a weapon in the climactic battle, the music is suddenly all loud and triumphant as if this was Captain America wielding Mjolnir in Endgame.

Like guys, these properties basically sell themselves. You don't have to make an even harder sell on purpose.
 
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Judge Holden said:
Just saw this clip from the movie's climax
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May the gods smile upon the Celestial Emperor Xinnie the Pooh!

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Yecch... If I want a retread of *Mulan* I’ll just replay KH2, whale the tar out of both Shan Yu and Hayabusa with a giant skeleton key, piss off for a bit, and then come back to whale the tar out of nihilist bastards and the god-dragon they corrupted.
 
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