🐷 Ethan Oliver Ralph / TheRalphRetort / Rad Roberts / Jcaesar187 / Rage Pig / "Killstream" / "Tequila Sunrise" - 5'1'' fat alcoholic, owner of a gunt, convicted felon and revenge pornographer, property of the ugly failed tranny pornstar Lucas Roberts. Has quadruple titties.

[MeltyTW]

Eh, I disagree, Ralph didn't become that way overnight, he has obviously zero respect for her mother and that doesn't just happen, it's the way he was raised.
Like i said, she used to have friends who cared for her and she's probably let her son isolate her from the rest of the world because he doesn't want anyone coming into 'his' house.
Also, I don't think any actual pictures of her have been doxed, and from the recording she doesn't sound like someone who's on the verge of dying. Obviously people need a ride back home from dialysis, but I don't buy the image that she's this walking corpse on the verge of collapse.
I just can't excuse the fact that Ralph is the monster he is, partly because of her and that she is willfully looking away when it comes to Faith. She should grow a spine, while I do not wish her any ill, I do not have sympathy for the situation she is in with Ralph.
However, I do agree that he would never listen, still that doesn't mean she shouldn't try or that she gets off without any blame.

Nora was quite young when they got married, and I believe she was underage when they started talking (?). So it's no surprise that she doesn't even react when his son shacks up with a child.
Anyway, I'll stop going off on a tangent about his mom, I just can't understand how a parent could just pretend everything is fine with all the shit they are in.

i should have phrased my posts to show more that im not sure of how much ralph's mom is to blame, we dont really have enough info one way or the other i just think its a bit silly to try and have it definitively said she did x amount of coddling or abused ralph x much. I also should have phrased it to the Vickers that ralphs mom might not necessarily be blameless or might even be a pos just that we dont really have the same hours of recorded and documented shit on her that we do ralph.

if that makes sense. idk to me itd be like actually going at ralph for suspected abuse of his brother when all we know is hes inclined to do that and his brother is apparently special needs instead of the more concrete pressing things

 

[Lore Master]

I'm not entirely sure which direction it will go with Destiny to be honest. On one had Destiny's whole social thing is that as long as there's consent and you're not going out of your way to harm someone than you do you. Like he had a whole argument a year ago about how incest was okay if there was 0% chance of conception between consenting adults. I believe Ralph's counter argument was to call Destiny's view degenerate and disgusting. A rare instance of Ralph being correct.

This is where it gets a little hazy. I think the only way though a moral argument Destiny will justify beating up Ralph is if he recognizes and believes Ralph has done things to actively hurt Mr. and Mrs. Vickers. I think threatening their business is enough in my book, don't know about Destiny though.

Of course, this has more to do if Destiny thinks he has more to gain by punting the gunt then he does on continued glamorous appearances on the Killstream. Destiny benefits from being able to say, "I go on right wing stuff sometimes because I want everyone to give me money not just you leftests" or whatever. On the other hand, Destiny making Ralph cry would be a boon to all.

Destiny has bigger right wing shows that he can go on. Ralph is small potatoes. Ralph's reach is that of t-rex arms in terms of shows. Jesse Lee Peterson is better than going on Ralphs. At least there are people in JLP's audience that might actually follow or sub to Destiny for debates. Most of Ralph's audience is just a bunch of mouth breathing retards that only communicate via 1488 memes.

Destiny doesn't need Ralph and I would say that the only reason he goes on the Killstream is more out of morbid curiosity and having a good laugh at the troglodytes that are the hosts and audience.

 

[Mr. Manchester]

Ralph's reach is that of t-rex arms.

This edit of your quote is also true.

 

[buying gf]

I believe there's also a photo of her in a white dress and Ralph in something other than a sports team shirt

Edit: found it
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If that is their 'wedding' photo, does Ralph genuinely not own a suit?

 

[Circumspicious]

Maybe he tried to just let it go for as long as he could but once his audience starts bringing it up and he can't just ignore it anymore and has to address it.
The 'I don't know anything about it' seems like a bullshit excuse, I find it hard to believe he wouldn't have at least seen some reference to it with how often he goes on the KS, maybe he's hoping his audience forgets and if not he can always say he finally read up on it and address it.

I've gotten the impression that destiny (whether consciously or not) does the whole networking/not mess with each other thing since they both benefit from it. Maybe I'm wrong though because I don't know much about him.

Even if that were true, why would he ask for more information? Even if he did know about it, why would he bring it up at all? Let alone ask for more details. His audience doesn't know about this, I'm fairly certain of that. If he were hoping they'd forget, he wouldn't bring it up.

Destiny is a bridgeburner, and him burning bridges with Ralph would do nothing but hurt him. At the same time, if he brings it up with incomplete information, with only Ralph's side of the story, he might lend validity to it in the eyes of his audience.

Faith is also a Destiny fan or something like it, at the very least she wanted his autograph/to meet him, whatever it was. If Destiny burns bridges with Ralph, it might stir her into action against the Gunt. Slim chance, but maybe.

 

[RalphsFailingKidneys]

i should have phrased my posts to show more that im not sure of how much ralph's mom is to blame, we dont really have enough info one way or the other i just think its a bit silly to try and have it definitively said she did x amount of coddling or abused ralph x much. I also should have phrased it to the Vickers that ralphs mom might not necessarily be blameless or might even be a pos just that we dont really have the same hours of recorded and documented shit on her that we do ralph.

if that makes sense. idk to me itd be like actually going at ralph for suspected abuse of his brother when all we know is hes inclined to do that and his brother is apparently special needs instead of the more concrete pressing things

I get what you mean, but at the same time there are some clear things that point to Ralph being enabled by his mother his whole life. He father being absent, entitlement, lack of respect for her, etc. Of course there is no way to say for sure, but the main blame here is not that, is the fact that a kid out of high school moved into her home, someone she had never seen before and she doesn't even do a basic check to see that the kid is not underage or that the situation is not what it seems when it could obviously lead to legal problems for all of them.
I get that there is a chance she was lied to (Faith is abused/running away/needs help), but to me she is ignoring what is happening because she doesn't want to get involved or because she benefits from the situation. Either way I can't see her as blameless.

 

[Funkmaster]

Bibble is one of the few in the gunt's motley crew that I have a bit of sympathy for. He was never meant to get sucked into Ethan's gravity well. On earth C-187 Bibble is hosting a moderately successful tabletop channel on youtube to like 8 or 9k subs. It isn't much but its better than this cursed reality where he's licking the festering grease from a grizzled gunt crease.

Disagree. I remember Bibble BEFORE he was drawn into the guntsphere. He was always trying to get into the inner circle. Mostly remember Bibble would always try and get on Zidan's aftershow. He seemed desperate to inject himself. He got what he wanted,

 

[MeltyTW]

I get what you mean, but at the same time there are some clear things that point to Ralph being enabled by his mother his whole life. He father being absent, entitlement, lack of respect for her, etc. Of course there is no way to say for sure, but the main blame here is not that, is the fact that a kid out of high school moved into her home, someone she had never seen before and she doesn't even do a basic check to see that the kid is not underage or that the situation is not what it seems when it could obviously lead to legal problems for all of them.
I get that there is a chance she was lied to (Faith is abused/running away/needs help), but to me she is ignoring what is happening because she doesn't want to get involved or because she benefits from the situation. Either way I can't see her as blameless.

maybe. i think more she just doesnt assume her son , no matter how openly shit he is, grooms little girl and doesnt want involved in what she might reasonably assume to be relationships between his shit son and consenting adults more inside his age range that will nonetheless be shitty and terrible to be around. Maybe shes an enabler or even just blowing off the Vickers maliciously and in that case might be worth pressuring her so we get a stream of Mrs Vickers beating an uppity bitch down after her husband buys the crack shack. Ah what kino that would be.

 

[High Tea]

I disagree. Ethan's grift is nothing compared to Destiny's grift, I'll bet he barely knows a thing. I doubt he pays attention to these people, and if he does I doubt he checks any KF thread other than his own.

Even if you're right, why would Destiny ask for more info? To save face preemptively? If he were trying to save face, he wouldn't acknowledge it at all. At the very least, the more he knows the more reason he has to not associate with Ralph in the future. Destiny is a big draw for Ralph. This could hurt him.

I guess I'm just tired of e-celebs saying they don't know about something and just don't want to taint their brand or want access to a platform, so they will pretend they don't know about something controversial. Networking and crap. Not that Destiny maybe didn't know, but It's just unfathomable to me that no one in Destiny's chat, discord, dm's, pay messages, etc would have not mentioned ER's Faith stuff. The sex tape alone would have got someone to. Metokur didn't know anything. Collett didn't know anything. At some point it's just too unbelievable that none of them would know anything at all.

Destiny has bigger right wing shows that he can go on. Ralph is small potatoes. Ralph's reach is that of t-rex arms in terms of shows. Jesse Lee Peterson is better than going on Ralphs. At least there are people in JLP's audience that might actually follow or sub to Destiny for debates. Most of Ralph's audience is just a bunch of mouth breathing retards that only communicate via 1488 memes.

Destiny doesn't need Ralph and I would say that the only reason he goes on the Killstream is more out of morbid curiosity and having a good laugh at the troglodytes that are the hosts and audience.

If Destiny is involved with Dick, then it might be a networking thing. Ralph gets most of his guests these days seemingly through his relationship to Dick. While KS may not have much reach, Destiny might not want to burn a bridge to Masterson. That, and I bet his audience likes the clips of him 'owning the nazis'.

 

[Circumspicious]

I guess I'm just tired of e-celebs saying they don't know about something and just don't want to taint their brand or want access to a platform, so they will pretend they don't know about something controversial. Networking and crap. Not that Destiny maybe didn't know, but It's just unfathomable to me that no one in Destiny's chat, discord, dm's, pay messages, etc would have not mentioned ER's Faith stuff. The sex tape alone would have got someone to. Metokur didn't know anything. Collett didn't know anything. At some point it's just too unbelievable that none of them would know anything at all.

If Destiny is involved with Dick, then it might be a networking thing. Ralph gets most of his guests these days seemingly through his relationship to Dick. While KS may not have much reach, Destiny might not want to burn a bridge to Masterson. That, and I bet his audience likes the clips of him 'owning the nazis'.

Destiny does not give a fuck about Dick. Destiny does not give a fuck about Ralph. The people you mentioned, Metokur, Collett, Destiny does not pay attention to.
Destiny is a draw for Dick and Ralph, not the other way around. They need him way more than Destiny needs them. His community does not pay proper attention to these people beyond the appearances Destiny has. People were excited for another appearance on the Killstream according to Destiny's subreddit.

Turning Destiny against Ethan would fuck Ethan very hard, because Faith is potentially a fan. Matthew Vickers is apparently trying to reach out to Destiny also. Destiny wants more info, why not give it to him? If he wanted to avoid the topic for his own sake, he wouldn't have brought it up.

 

[RalphsFailingKidneys]

Even if that were true, why would he ask for more information? Even if he did know about it, why would he bring it up at all? Let alone ask for more details. His audience doesn't know about this, I'm fairly certain of that. If he were hoping they'd forget, he wouldn't bring it up.

Like I said, I don't know much about Destiny, but from what was mentioned it came up during one of his streams and he said he didn't know enough about it.
Asking for more information can either be an honest request because he does not approve or it's a way to stall and hope the audience lets it go.
As for what he gets out of it, I have no idea but I noticed a few days ago that most (every?) KS he has been on is streamed from his side (and labeled) on his YT channel, so it could be as simple as him getting views because his audience enjoys the confrontation.
Can't really say what his motivation is though, just going based on the information that's available.

so we get a stream of Mrs Vickers beating an uppity bitch down after her husband buys the crack shack. Ah what kino that would be.

One can only hope.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

He sent Faith $800. I think you're talking about the total money they spent on the trip and trying to get Faith home.

The money was for the Washington room service since they already paid for the room.

Does contacting destiny breaks the don't pozload my neghole rule here?

 

[Circumspicious]

Like I said, I don't know much about Destiny, but from what was mentioned it came up during one of his streams and he said he didn't know enough about it.
Asking for more information can either be an honest request because he does not approve or it's a way to stall and hope the audience lets it go.
As for what he gets out of it, I have no idea but I noticed a few days ago that most (every?) KS he has been on is streamed from his side (and labeled) on his YT channel, so it could be as simple as him getting views because his audience enjoys the confrontation.
Can't really say what his motivation is though, just going based on the information that's available.


One can only hope.

I really doubt that he'd bring a story up with the aim of burying it in this case. Do you seriously think Destiny wants to protect Ethan Ralph? If that's the case, why did Destiny go after JF like he did? JF had a lot more to offer in way of viewers and confrontation than Ralph ever has, or ever will.

The worst case is Destiny addresses this with Ethan not knowing the extent of what's happened, and lends Ethan credibility by doing so. That would reinforce Faith, who is apparently a fan of Destiny.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

I could contact destiny and try getting his take on the issue about what happened in LA if it doesn't break the "Don't interact with cows" or no trolling Rule.

 

[High Tea]

Destiny does not give a fuck about Dick. Destiny does not give a fuck about Ralph. The people you mentioned, Metokur, Collett, Destiny does not pay attention to.
Destiny is a draw for Dick and Ralph, not the other way around. They need him way more than Destiny needs them. His community does not pay proper attention to these people beyond the appearances Destiny has. People were excited for another appearance on the Killstream according to Destiny's subreddit.

Turning Destiny against Ethan would fuck Ethan very hard, because Faith is potentially a fan. Matthew Vickers is apparently trying to reach out to Destiny also. Destiny wants more info, why not give it to him? If he wanted to avoid the topic for his own sake, he wouldn't have brought it up.

Destiny is the more high profile and it's great to give him info. I just personally think he probably knew and didn't care because she was 18. I think perhaps he was going to ignore it because it was mutually beneficial - Dick and ER can get a high profile guest, Destiny can get clips of him owning right wingers to make more money off of, perhaps he gets a cut of the lemons and/or an appearance fee. There has to be something in it for him because he still goes on these shows after they have controversies. I don't dislike Destiny, and if this will make a dent, then by all means I hope it works.

 

[RalphsFailingKidneys]

I really doubt that he'd bring a story up with the aim of burying it in this case. Do you seriously think Destiny wants to protect Ethan Ralph? If that's the case, why did Destiny go after JF like he did? JF had a lot more to offer in way of viewers and confrontation than Ralph ever has, or ever will.

The worst case is Destiny addresses this with Ethan not knowing the extent of what's happened, and lends Ethan credibility by doing so. That would reinforce Faith, who is apparently a fan of Destiny.

No argument on Destiny having more to offer, but they do have a weird semi-friendly relationship and it's weird that he's been a guest so often (after all that's happened) if he doesn't gain anything from it, so it gives the impression that they have some kind of arrangement from which they both benefit.
I do hope I'm wrong, because like you said, it would be a big blow to Ralph, but my best guess is he won't care/address it unless his audience forces him to do it.

 

[Wazzupnerds]

So I take a break from Ralph for a week and a half, and it went to even more shit.

Amazing.

 

[Postal Pippa]

So I take a break from Ralph for a week and a half, and it went to even more shit.

Amazing.

Its the Harvest that keeps on givin crop. Corn for the Corn gods after all.

 

[Wazzupnerds]

Its the Harvest that keeps on givin crop. Corn for the Corn gods after all.

But the Harvest normally doesn't last this long.

I have to wonder if this is the end. Too much is happening.

 

[MeltyTW]

Destiny is the more high profile and it's great to give him info. I just personally think he probably knew and didn't care because she was 18. I think perhaps he was going to ignore it because it was mutually beneficial - Dick and ER can get a high profile guest, Destiny can get clips of him owning right wingers to make more money off of, perhaps he gets a cut of the lemons and/or an appearance fee. There has to be something in it for him because he still goes on these shows after they have controversies. I don't dislike Destiny, and if this will make a dent, then by all means I hope it works.

No argument on Destiny having more to offer, but they do have a weird semi-friendly relationship and it's weird that he's been a guest so often (after all that's happened) if he doesn't gain anything from it, so it gives the impression that they have some kind of arrangement from which they both benefit.
I do hope I'm wrong, because like you said, it would be a big blow to Ralph, but my best guess is he won't care/address it unless his audience forces him to do it.

i watch a fair bit of destiny, youre both objectively wrong if you think destiny doesnt burn bridges for reasons grifters usually dont, hes said himself he loves circuses and he has argued and pressed points most wouldnt even when it made people he had collabed with constantly leave him.