Fat Acceptance Movement / Fat Girlcows

[AbraCadaver]

Oh yes, or the woman who downed like eight pints every single night and couldn’t figure out where the extra weight was coming from. And also didn’t realize she drank like a fish. Alcohol has no calories, DUH, it’s not soda!

I like that show. Plus the comments from HAES people saying “THIS SHOW IS ABHORRENT BECAUSE THEY LAY OUT EVERYTHING A FAT PERSON EATS IN ONE WEEK AND THEN SHAME THEM!”

For those who don’t know, the show uses hidden cameras to reveal that the self-reporting weekly diaries of these overweight subjects are often lowballing their intake by thousands of calories a day. Then they lay out a brief snapshot of where that person’s trouble areas may be: getting takeaway every night because they’re too tired after work to cook, or they eat fine but drink tonnes of calories in alcohol. But of course HAES proponents miss the point entirely, skip over the shock of the subjects realizing they overeat far more than they realized, and just reeeeeing about DIET CULTURE.

I enjoy the part where the dietitian shows them their extra weekly calories in the form of donuts or puddings. “This week alone, you drank the alcohol-calorie equivalent of forty glazed donuts. Here is your pyramid of donuts. You drank this.”

 

[LetThemEatCake]

Also jacket potato woman. It's healthy 'cause it's a potato duh. Nevermind that it's like breaking four digit calories.

Ah yes, a large jacket potato .. couple of hundred calories. Then add 300 calories of baked beans, and 400 calories of cheese, with an extra 100 calories from sauce or butter, whatever. 1000 calories, easy. WHY AM I FAT?

Oh yes, or the woman who downed like eight pints every single night and couldn’t figure out where the extra weight was coming from. And also didn’t realize she drank like a fish. Alcohol has no calories, DUH, it’s not soda!

My favourite was a really early episode (possibly the first?) with a woman who truly believed she had a unique metabolic disorder because she ae mostly 'healthy salads' and couldn't lose any weight. So the cameras record her making her tuna salad, or chicken salad, fine. Then each time she gets out this huge jar of mayonnaise and dollops four or more heaped tablespoons on top of her portion, adding a good extra 500-600 calories to each meal. Then she got really angry with them for pointing this out, denied everything and refused to take part in the finale of the show. Thankfully most people who take part are more receptive to logic.

 

[Wallace]

I like that show. Plus the comments from HAES people saying “THIS SHOW IS ABHORRENT BECAUSE THEY LAY OUT EVERYTHING A FAT PERSON EATS IN ONE WEEK AND THEN SHAME THEM!”

For those who don’t know, the show uses hidden cameras to reveal that the self-reporting weekly diaries of these overweight subjects are often lowballing their intake by thousands of calories a day. Then they lay out a brief snapshot of where that person’s trouble areas may be: getting takeaway every night because they’re too tired after work to cook, or they eat fine but drink tonnes of calories in alcohol. But of course HAES proponents miss the point entirely, skip over the shock of the subjects realizing they overeat far more than they realized, and just reeeeeing about DIET CULTURE.

I enjoy the part where the dietitian shows them their extra weekly calories in the form of donuts or puddings. “This week alone, you drank the alcohol-calorie equivalent of forty glazed donuts. Here is your pyramid of donuts. You drank this.”

One of the cornerstones of victim mentality is that other people are to blame for your failures and unhappiness. This is how FA functions: it's society's fault that you feel bad about being fat. If you feel anxious, depressed, or otherwise unhappy about your weight and appearance, well that's just internalized fatphobia talking. 100% not your fault! Add in a social reward for parroting this belief, and a social punishment for questioning it, and you've got a hugbox that is very hard to escape from. Combine hypervigilance with confirmation bias (the world is evil and other people control my destiny), and it’s not difficult to understand why individuals complete the deadly triad with the final component: salvation in ideology.

In the above cases, it reaches the point where they literally cannot even see that they are doing this to themselves. Their minds form an insane Gordian knot of dislogic to evade any responsibility for their actions in a way that would make a heroin junkie envious. But then, that's the magic of victim mentality. It's never their fault. They refuse to take ownership of their own demons and project them onto others. The fatphobic world is making them feel bad, and they medicate this anxiety with more junk food. Information will be filtered to fit the narrative, facts become a matter of faith over proof, leading to a path of total imprisonment in a self-perpetuating, deeply harmful psychological prison.

 

[FuckDuckSeagull]

I'm pretty sure you weren't put on this earth to be MORBIDLY OBESE BEKAH. Maybe prioritize yourself as you advised and lose some goddamn weight so you don't end with the beetus. I heard your autumn years are much nicer with BOTH FEET!

 

[LetThemEatCake]

I will never understand this 'women fearing taking up space' meme thst gets flung around by bopo and FA pseudo feminist types. It's such obvious strawmanning. We all take up space as long as we exist in three dimensions.

We want to be a healthy weight because it feels better and is healthier than being underweight or overweight as the phrase 'heslthy weight,' implies. We also want to to look and feel sexually attractive, which is not a sin in a sexually dymorphic species. It's mentally healthy as long as it's not some all-encompassing obsession.

It's not some grand rebellion against society to be obese. You're just harming yourself, not 'the man'.

I"ve never known a single woman who lost weight or wanted to who claimed it was anything to do with being afraid to take up space or set boundaries. Even anorexics, mentally ill as they are, don't think like that. With them it's all about control.

 

[Buffy the SJW slayer]

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I'm pretty sure you weren't put on this earth to be MORBIDLY OBESE BEKAH. Maybe prioritize yourself as you advised and lose some goddamn weight so you don't end with the beetus. I heard your autumn years are much nicer with BOTH FEET!

By take up space, they meant don't be afraid to make waves, share opinions, speak up, have a voice, laugh too loudly...you know, things that certain sectors of the world consider to be unladylike. The deathfats and thots might skew stats but there are a lot of brilliant women who are too meek and mild to truly enjoy the world.

They never meant don't be afraid to see if you can turn yourself into a human blimp.

 

[Candidae]

Taking up space is used for victims and people who have mental disorders making them feel like they don't belong anywhere, that they're just wasted space or are delusional and think they can't ever go anywhere or do anything cause they're frauds (convinced they don't actually like the things they like for example). When your therapist assures you you can take up space it means you're not wrong for literally being alive and existing because your mind is telling you otherwise, not that you should be an asshole and literally take up too much physical space on a bus and that your pains as a fat person are anywhere near people with real issues in their lives.

Another non psychological use is for minorities and women who feel they must stay quiet and act meek or keep their real feelings and qualified opinions to themselves lest they be seen as a negative stereotype like the bitchy boss or loud black woman ones. Again, potentially real problems more important than "I literally invade people's space with my 6 foot in circumference ass and I want to convince myself it doesn't make me feel bad"

 

[Ginger Piglet]

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I'm pretty sure you weren't put on this earth to be MORBIDLY OBESE BEKAH. Maybe prioritize yourself as you advised and lose some goddamn weight so you don't end with the beetus. I heard your autumn years are much nicer with BOTH FEET!

What autumn years. This is assuming that she gets that far without her heart shitting its pants.

Honestly, for some of these deathfats I think that the only thing that will snap them out of their denial about how much they shove down their gullet would be a brush with obesity induced death. Maybe a heart attack or a cerebral aneurysm. Maybe even falling out of bed, which for most people might be a painful annoyance but for someone who's 600lbs would probably mean it would be impossible for them to get up and the force of the impact could break bones or damage organs. Something like that is probably the only thing that would demonstrate to them that people are not supposed to be that size.

Then with a bit of luck they might give up the troughing.

 

[I suck ass]

c͖̫̳̤͎̙̑ͣ̑͋a̤͕̞̮͕͇sc͎̙̙̓͘a̱͊ḋ̐̇̚i̷̳̐͗ͪͨͤ̂ͭn̡̳̣g͙͍̟̬̦̗̰̀ͦ̒̑͑ ͯͫ͂͗̃ͫf̸͍̀̃ͅl̬̘̰̮̗̇̓̈͋͞e̦̮̿̈ͦ͆̅̎s̷̰͎̬̭̜͙̬̑h̺̍̑ͦ̈ͯ͘y̞̠͓͈̪̦͂̈ͦ̏͐͑̎ͅ ͚̙̺̍̒ͥ͌̌͒ͨ͞d̙̝̫̩e̺̝̥̣̝ͅl͓̦̋̑ͬͫ̓̋͠i̱̝͙̪͕ͨ̅ͯ͌̓ͯͅc̲͍̺̯̻̲̈̊ͫ͑ͨ͛͜i̮̿͛ͪ͗͌o̟̊ͤ̊ͥ͑̊́ū͑̔̓̈s̜̺̩̅̆ṇ̯͎̹ͪ̓̈̈́ͧ̐ẻ̯̹̺̘̱ͯͅsͫ̽ͨs̟̣͛̅͆ͦͨ

 

[Kurdoğlu]

"cascading fleshy deliciousness" is not a phrase that should ever be uttered - in English or in any other language.

And uh, is that what we're calling gaslighting these days? "You said you don't like fat bodies but you're lying or you're wrong".

 

[DefCon Dumb]

It's a great example of gaslighting. I'll agree that fat bodies are hot... judging by the amount of sweat I see pouring out of the bodies of the few super fats near me. But sexually attractive? For the vast majority of people, not only NOT sexually attractive but downright repulsive. But yeah daniadriana, you keep on telling yourself that.

 

[Smug Cat]

c͖̫̳̤͎̙̑ͣ̑͋a̤͕̞̮͕͇sc͎̙̙̓͘a̱͊ḋ̐̇̚i̷̳̐͗ͪͨͤ̂ͭn̡̳̣g͙͍̟̬̦̗̰̀ͦ̒̑͑ ͯͫ͂͗̃ͫf̸͍̀̃ͅl̬̘̰̮̗̇̓̈͋͞e̦̮̿̈ͦ͆̅̎s̷̰͎̬̭̜͙̬̑h̺̍̑ͦ̈ͯ͘y̞̠͓͈̪̦͂̈ͦ̏͐͑̎ͅ ͚̙̺̍̒ͥ͌̌͒ͨ͞d̙̝̫̩e̺̝̥̣̝ͅl͓̦̋̑ͬͫ̓̋͠i̱̝͙̪͕ͨ̅ͯ͌̓ͯͅc̲͍̺̯̻̲̈̊ͫ͑ͨ͛͜i̮̿͛ͪ͗͌o̟̊ͤ̊ͥ͑̊́ū͑̔̓̈s̜̺̩̅̆ṇ̯͎̹ͪ̓̈̈́ͧ̐ẻ̯̹̺̘̱ͯͅsͫ̽ͨs̟̣͛̅͆ͦͨ

At least this mound of cascading flesh is fucking showering

 

[Atatata]

At least this mound of cascading flesh is fucking showering

She'd have to scrub deep into the fleshy folds for it too have any effect.

 

[JambledUpWords]

The reason why body diversity is hard to find in animation isn’t because of fatphobia, sexism, etc. The reason it’s hard to find is because animation is super expensive and creating more body types involves more models and more costs. Also, hourglass figures in some animation styles are much easier to use than say, an apple shape. If body diversity in skin tone matters all that much, introduce more foreign movies. There are plenty of good foreign movies out there.

Despite having a Ph.D, this person doesn’t understand the limitations of animation nor the cost that goes into it when crafting an argument about body diversity in animation. Finally, if you are this preoccupied with body shapes and sizes in general, just take a step back and focus on other things with the kid. Introduce the kid to science, mathematics, history, etc. and try and help them get a hobby that doesn’t involve media in the first place.

 

[rocknrollmartian]

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The reason why body diversity is hard to find in animation isn’t because of fatphobia, sexism, etc. The reason it’s hard to find is because animation is super expensive and creating more body types involves more models and more costs. Also, hourglass figures in some animation styles are much easier to use than say, an apple shape. If body diversity in skin tone matters all that much, introduce more foreign movies. There are plenty of good foreign movies out there.

Despite having a Ph.D, this person doesn’t understand the limitations of animation nor the cost that goes into it when crafting an argument about body diversity in animation. Finally, if you are this preoccupied with body shapes and sizes in general, just take a step back and focus on other things with the kid. Introduce the kid to science, mathematics, history, etc. and try and help them get a hobby that doesn’t involve media in the first place.

I assume that aside from the reasons you mention, "body diversity" often isn't a priority because corporate animation is purposely heavily stylized as well. I can immediately picture what a Disney princess body shape looks like; little girls respond to that body shape and general aesthetic. That's a good thing from a branding and marketing perspective. It's not Disney's job to imbue impressionable young kids with self-esteem, and parents need to emphasize the difference between fantasy and reality when it comes to any kind of media exposure.

And yeah, get the kids off the tablet and go to the park or to a museum or force a kid to read a book if cartoon waifs are so bothersome. Funny how these complaining types never seem to be of the "kill your TV/excessive screen time is bad" persuasion but instead selfishly expect all media to change and conform to their preferences and agendas.

 

[Atatata]

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The reason why body diversity is hard to find in animation isn’t because of fatphobia, sexism, etc. The reason it’s hard to find is because animation is super expensive and creating more body types involves more models and more costs. Also, hourglass figures in some animation styles are much easier to use than say, an apple shape. If body diversity in skin tone matters all that much, introduce more foreign movies. There are plenty of good foreign movies out there.

Despite having a Ph.D, this person doesn’t understand the limitations of animation nor the cost that goes into it when crafting an argument about body diversity in animation. Finally, if you are this preoccupied with body shapes and sizes in general, just take a step back and focus on other things with the kid. Introduce the kid to science, mathematics, history, etc. and try and help them get a hobby that doesn’t involve media in the first place.

Some of these questions feel like they would make the kid feel bad on their own, regardless of the truth.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

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This irks me because we're trained specifically not to do that with kids. They'll eventually just start agreeing with you once they get bored of you interrogating them, so you don't ask them leading questions.

 

[Brittnay Matthews]

why the fuck would anyone question kids about the bodies of their favorite characters? it's disturbing to accuse them of loving a cartoon character just because of its body, kids don't think in that sexual manner and actively trying to implant a mindset of judging female characters based on their body types -thinking it's BoPo is retarded. it's on the same level of retardation as gender specials claiming to defy gender norms by further establishing them.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

It's a great example of gaslighting. I'll agree that fat bodies are hot... judging by the amount of sweat I see pouring out of the bodies of the few super fats near me. But sexually attractive? For the vast majority of people, not only NOT sexually attractive but downright repulsive. But yeah daniadriana, you keep on telling yourself that.

Thing is, when the rest of us say "real women have curves," we mean like Christina Hendricks or Gia Genevieve or anyone else who is THICC.

When they say it, they mean curvy like a letter O.

 

[JambledUpWords]

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