Megathread TERFs / Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists / Gender Critical Feminists - ft. r/GenderCritical & related reddits, Mancheeze, Cathy Brennan, GCDad, RadFHarva, Jamie Shupe, etc; "Gender Critical Feminism is Homophobic" - Cathy Brennan, 2019.

lots of MATI tinfoil hatting here in response to "woman does the thing she chastised other women for doing, and won't admit she was wrong for chastising other women for doing so, while acting like a victim in the process"
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Anyway, she's doing the "vaguing about TOXIC people" thing on Twitter. I wonder if she had a falling out with Bev Jo, since Bev Jo recently shared a Facebook memory where she complained about lesbians calling themselves female homosexuals (since that's MALE language) with this comment from Terri.
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Maybe it's a coincidence, but I know she was a major influence on Terri, and Bev doesn't take change in mindset well.
 
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A big problem I find with modern-day western Feminism is how different sections, cliques, and or categories of the movement don't get along particularly well or have conflicts with each other. A lot of feminists refuse to look at opinions that may differ from others. I remember reading on Karen Ingala Smith's blog about how Feminists are all different, and don't think the same, yet it said "If it's not radical, it's not feminism" which literally translates to "If I don't agree with it, it's not feminism!!!" It just shows that the movement is pretty divided.
 
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I swear, some TERFS and Radfems are so contradictory and at times very vague about things like "male privilege" in western societies and some of the stuff they complain about seems petty to some of the things women in developing and underdeveloped countries face.

TERFS: Saying that the brains are gendered is "sexist"!

Also TERFS: Women's brains are more capable of empathy!



" Men – you’ve had since time immemorial to get your shit together. For the sake of argument, let’s start from the assumption that as a species we’ve been around for about 200,000 years. Evidence suggests that early societies were egalitarian but that with the development of agriculture and domestication around 11,700 years ago, came the emergence of patriarchy, of men’s domination of women. What we refer to as first wave feminism gained prominence from the late 19th and early twentieth centuries, though this is western-centric and writes out women’s earlier struggles in Europe from the 15th century. Even if we take Mary Wollstonecraft’s A Vindication of the Rights of Woman published in 1792 as the start of women’s fight for our rights, men had eleven and a half thousand years to do something about sex inequality – if only a) you had wanted to and b) you weren’t too busy enjoying the benefits. What’s suddenly happened for you to want to get in on the act?"

Does she really think that all men of today should be held responsible for what other men did and how they behaved in the past? Let alone, outdated cultural beliefs played a big role in women's movements and oppression and they had to be fought against.


TERFS: I don't want men involved in my feminism!

Also TERFS: Men must help assist us by recognising their privilege otherwise they're assisting the patriarchy!

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Feminism: Nope, it’s still neither for nor about men

Hooray! Feminists have managed to make inequality between the sexes so obviously ludicrous, so obviously discriminatory, so unpalatable, that even men want in on the act. Sadly though, I think thi…
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Maybe if you didn't blame modern-day men for the past (which they can't control), maybe they'd listen to you a bit more and stop calling you a "man-hater".





Yes! Farting is a much more important issue than women suffering issues in developing and under developing countries!
 
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A minor, but funny episode in the parochial Troon vs TERF war down Britbong/Ireland way.
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Published a pic of her and her wife:
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The royalty of Britbong Terven pile in on FB:
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Hettytweets about it / Archive and states @Caroline Farrow leaked the FB spergjng to her, which Mother Farrow denies And is backed up by the cretinous LAL

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It’s true that Hetty’s “wife” looks like a bloke with a hint of male pattern baldness. But there is enough androgyny going on to make it a 50:50 bet.
What is funny is the bitchiness of the responses from the cream of Britbong Terven.
There is Mad Maria Maclachlan and her creepy autistic husband Alan Hennes who run the pisspoor Peak Trans YouTube channel and website.
Farmers @Dr Louise Moody and Mother Farrow feature. Other notables include the childish and shrill Venice Allan.
This Terven coven are supposed to be the vanguard of TERF feminists, but all I see is childish sperging about a couple of gruesome Irish dykes.
 
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Not true. Margaret Thatcher proved that a woman could make it into politics, and she wasn't even a feminist. Indira Gandhi became prime minister in India, despite the country's misogyny. Golda Meir was described as a very good prime minister. There are really good feminists like Ayaan Hirsi Ali who are trying to end horrendous things such as honor violence and FGM, yet a lot of the feminist media are completely silent about her. An author made a good point about her criticism of trivial first world stuff and getting with the programme. Some people didn't really like that.

So, anyone who disagrees with these feminists (including women) is an MRA.

These people seem to ignore that Ireland has had two successful female presidents, is ranked as one of the best and safest countries for women in the world, and is quite liberal and progressive. A lot of the older generation (both men and women) are still quite conservative and were against abortion. However, things have greatly changed.
 
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I find TERFS/radfems to be very fetishistic of lesbians in general, that is unless they're completely indoctrinated with the radfem ideology and "reject feminity" otherwise they're "pandering to the patriarchy". They worship them in a really creepy way.
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Most of them are lesbians so that's not surprising. They put themselves on a pedestal and harass women who like men as if being normal is traitorous to womankind.
 
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Lesbian/Political Lesbian radfems: Bihets who call themselves "dykes" are homophobic and they're dumb hand maiden dick sucking/worshipping bitches who've been dirtied by dick! You're all bincels! You should choose to be with women if you cared about us and not filthy moid men!!

Also Lesbian/Political Lesbian radfems: WAHHHH! BIHETS PREFER MEN AND WON'T DATE US!! HOMOPHOBES!
 
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Keep downvoting TERFs, I'll just post some more of your bullshit. Here's Helena (ex /r/detrans mod) talking about how meeting professor Sheila Jeffreys and being directly confronted with TERF misandry ended up alienating Helena from the feminists where she initially assumed she might find new community after she detransitioned:


Helena drops more truthbombs about TERFs harassing her and other detransers for not regurgitating TERF party lines:

people with twitter handles like Justice4Wombyn JkRowlingSupport ROGD be like “I will DIE before I let a detrans person speak in a way about gender that I don’t agree with”
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It's all sisterhood and solidarity over at the new Ovarit website, the forum TERFs created after the Reddit purge:

I just checked the Ovarit site (set up after the GC Reddit ban). The snarky, b!+(hy (yes I said it) comments about Debra Soh because they don't want to admit the powers of biology, trashing a successful woman scientist and writer, was a real turn off.

Oh I’m sure. Loving women only goes so far as the ideology allows. It’s funny how those who screech the most about abolishing gender have THE MOST gender typical behavior when it comes to relational aggression.
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TERFs literally have no idea how they come across to other women, especially young women like Helena.

Here's another TERF demanding that Terri Strange apologize for dating a man, which she describes as a "mistake":

I would have had a lot more respect for her if she just owned up to her mistakes and made an apology to the people shes hurt. She spent years talking down to women about everything she's doing right now and has the audacity to not only not take accountability for it, but to act self empowered like shes going against the grain by coming out as a bisexual in a heterosexual relationship with a man. Like congratulations on being in the majority dude. Do whatever makes you happy but own up to your own shit. I pity all the people she has bullied and influenced over the years. She can change whatever she wants in her personal life but shes self serving and I don't think thats ever going to change.
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"She spent years talking down to women about everything", that's literally what TERFs themselves do, calling women HOPs, calling them fuck-robots, dragging them for everything they do that TERFs do not approve of. I find it very interesting that Terri Strange has quit making Youtube videos altogether now that she's with a man. Maybe a good roll in the hay with a man was what she long needed afterall to stop with these "speaking bitterness" sessions on Youtube.
 
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Keep downvoting TERFs, I'll just post some more of your bullshit. Here's Helena (ex /r/detrans mod) talking about how meeting professor Sheila Jeffreys and being directly confronted with TERF misandry ended up alienating Helena from the feminists where she initially assumed she might find new community after she detransitioned:


Helena drops more truthbombs about TERFs harassing her and other detransers for not regurgitating TERF party lines:



It's all sisterhood and solidarity over at the new Ovarit website, the forum TERFs created after the Reddit purge:



TERFs literally have no idea how they come across to other women, especially young women like Helena.

Here's another TERF demanding that Terri Strange apologize for dating a man, which she describes as a "mistake":



"She spent years talking down to women about everything", that's literally what TERFs themselves do, calling women HOPs, calling them fuck-robots, dragging them for everything they do that TERFs do not approve of. I find it very interesting that Terri Strange has quit making Youtube videos altogether now that she's with a man. Maybe a good roll in the hay with a man was what she long needed afterall to stop with these "speaking bitterness" sessions on Youtube.
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Helena's basically a tradwife and borderline neo-nazi. And nobody is "downvoting" you this isn't an autistic reddit thread.
 
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Online TERF central Ovarit wants to host a detrans group:

Ideas for new groups belong in this circle for future development: https://ovarit.com/o/Circles/hot/2 Detrans is a very popular suggestion which we will be looking into.
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Here's what an actual detransitioner had to say about Ovarit's audience slipping into detransitioners' threads to lecture them about radical feminism:


Gender criticals really think they one upped dysphoric women by accusing us of enforcing stereotypes because we chose to present ourselves as male for complex and diverse reasons. If you strike up these arguments with dysphoric women, you’re not helping.

Nobody is denying human diversity exists. But it is obtuse to willfully pretend like you have no idea what it means to “present as male”. Go back to Ovarit and have your little hissy fit there, not in the mentions of dysphoric women.
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I love that phrase, "go back to Ovarit", I'm adopting it.This targeting of non-TERF detransitioners is so disgusting. How they justify this to themselves - while at the same time believing that they are "helping" detransitioners - is just beyond me.
 
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