2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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I wouldn't be shocked if Donald Trump becomes the president in 2020, because he's doing stuff, unlike Biden, who should get retired already. And the Left and the Democrats will always be worse than their opponents, which is mind boggling to me, because they still pull some fear mongering shit.
The democrats have proven to me beyond a shadow of a doubt they are hostile and anti American force.
 
I'm still baffled that we got to the point where waving an American flag means you're a racist.
This happened because of school administrators. The earliest I heard of this was when at some soulless suburban high school in the early Obama era, some kids brought in an American flag at lunchtime and some school administrators banned it because it could offend Mexicans. I am butchering the story here but blame suburban high schools for this bullshit along with anything else related to the suburbs.
 
I'm still baffled that we got to the point where waving an American flag means you're a racist.
The left speaks in code.

From what I understand the end goal of these commies is erase any identity that prevents working class solidarity.

Why?
Because the bourgeoisie can use such things to distract the working class away from class conflict.

America is a national identity. Its an identity to be used to get one group of working class people to help oppress another group of working class people.

For example the iraq war. Or sweat shops
 
This happened because of school administrators. The earliest I heard of this was when at some soulless suburban high school in the early Obama era, some kids brought in an American flag at lunchtime and some school administrators banned it because it could offend Mexicans. I am butchering the story here but blame suburban high schools for this bullshit along with anything else related to the suburbs.

The left speaks in code.

From what I understand the end goal of these commies is erase any identity that prevents working class solidarity.

Why?
Because the bourgeoisie can use such things to distract the working class away from class conflict.

America is a national identity. Its an identity to be used to get one group of working class people to help oppress another group of working class people.

For example the iraq war. Or sweat shops

I don't disagree with either of these, but I think it's much more simple than that.

Conservatives like the flag; therefore flag BAD.
 
I don't disagree with either of these, but I think it's much more simple than that.

Conservatives like the flag; therefore flag BAD.
Oh no doubt. It the Marxist scum want to install a world goverment so capitlists cant run to a foreign country and fight back.

So a nation is racist according to that.
 
I'm fuming at the fact that the Democrats are doing everything they can to cheat the election, that's the most sneaky snake crap imaginable, and then they'll act like they did a lot of work scaring people to vote for Biden, and of coarse the fucking Democrats will only say they support black Americans only for their attention. I'm so grumpy.
 
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This happened because of school administrators. The earliest I heard of this was when at some soulless suburban high school in the early Obama era, some kids brought in an American flag at lunchtime and some school administrators banned it because it could offend Mexicans. I am butchering the story here but blame suburban high schools for this bullshit along with anything else related to the suburbs.
I recall that. I think it was like "it was Mexican Pride week and some young nogoodnik who probably went on to yell PEPE at Hillary wore a USA flag shirt or something"
I saw Local Talk Radio had a bumpersticker of "MY FLAG ISN'T OFFENSIVE [USA FLAG]" or something to that effect
 
I don't disagree with either of these, but I think it's much more simple than that.

Conservatives like the flag; therefore flag BAD.
What does conservative mean in our current era anymore. Joe Rogan is considered conservative by the newest batch of young liberals. Tucker Carlson's views would never been given airtime in the Bush era Fox News but here we are. The conservatives from the Bush era are busy trying to get Biden into office. To see some enthusiasm and soul within the current right wing is amazing given the reputation of the right wing as the party of preppy ivy cuckolded cocksuckers and nofun stern eyed old men who wanted lower taxes and fight forever wars.
 
What does conservative mean in our current era anymore. Joe Rogan is considered conservative by the newest batch of young liberals. Tucker Carlson's views would never been given airtime in the Bush era Fox News but here we are. The conservatives from the Bush era are busy trying to get Biden into office. To see some enthusiasm and soul within the current right wing is amazing given the reputation of the right wing as the party of preppy ivy cuckolded cocksuckers and nofun stern eyed old men who wanted lower taxes and fight forever wars.

I mean as recently as the 2012 election, even Obama wouldn't come right out and say that gay marriage should be legal.

Now everything has shifted so far that we have a ton of pro-choice, pro-gay marriage Republicans.
 
What does conservative mean in our current era anymore. Joe Rogan is considered conservative by the newest batch of young liberals. Tucker Carlson's views would never been given airtime in the Bush era Fox News but here we are. The conservatives from the Bush era are busy trying to get Biden into office. To see some enthusiasm and soul within the current right wing is amazing given the reputation of the right wing as the party of preppy ivy cuckolded cocksuckers and nofun stern eyed old men who wanted lower taxes and fight forever wars.
the Tea Party of the "taxes suck and I don't really care about gays and I guess abortions are kinda creepy" wing of the Libertarians and GOP won
 
I mean as recently as the 2012 election, even Obama wouldn't come right out and say that gay marriage should be legal.

Now everything has shifted so far that we have a ton of pro-choice, pro-gay marriage Republicans.
On Republicans and pro-choice, it really shows that today's leftists are fucking nuts with abortion; today's folks on the right are chill with it: if you have to do it, just do it early and try to make next time more safe, and don't brag about it (ugh abortion parties) or do it late term.

Why are leftists so obsessed with this "choice" thing f they can just end it quickly, but choose to celebrate snuffing out a life at peak of conception? Probably something profound enough to make a thread about here.
 
Now everything has shifted so far that we have a ton of pro-choice, pro-gay marriage Republicans.
That movement you note is not on the liberal-conservative axis though, it's on the authoritarian-libertarian axis.

Which is why there is movement on the issue of gay marriage (live and let live) but not so much abortion (protection of innocent life). So I don't really know where you're seeing all these pro-choice Republicans.

If anything, we've actually moved to the right and brought along some of the middle with us. Because nothing wakes you up more and animates you to make a stand than the left going "shout your abortion!" and literally celebrating it. There's a lot of people in the middle, more than you would think, whose eyes have been opened to just what abortion entails by how gross the left is about it. It's made it so all of the right and a good chunk of the middle can no longer sit back and grit their teeth and concede there's not much they can do. Basically, the left yet again has overplayed its hand.
 
On Republicans and pro-choice, it really shows that today's leftists are fucking nuts with abortion; today's folks on the right are chill with it: if you have to do it, just do it early and try to make next time more safe, and don't brag about it (ugh abortion parties) or do it late term.

Why are leftists so obsessed with this "choice" thing f they can just end it quickly, but choose to celebrate snuffing out a life at peak of conception? Probably something profound enough to make a thread about here.
In what's become an ever-running theme with Current Year, it's the "inch given, mile taken" mentality. We budged on gay marriage, so then they moved on to pushing for troons and, more recently, kid diddlers.

Same principle on abortion. Started with just making it acceptable, now it's gotten to the point of straight up infanticide with some people wanting to make killing an already born baby a legal act.

It's been admitted by many on this very site that the religious right knew what they were talking about all along when they warned that things like letting fags marry would escalate to shit like tranny story time with kindergartners, we've seen it unfold in real time.
 
Biden leads among Arizona Latinos but Trump makes gains
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Joe Biden continues to lead among Latinos in the battleground of Arizona. But Donald Trump is showing signs of marginal support with younger Latinos, specifically men, a new poll finds.

Biden received 62 percent of Latino support compared with Trump’s 29 percent — 1 percentage point ahead of Hillary Clinton’s showing in 2016 exit polls with the voting bloc — according to a poll conducted for Equis Research, a Democratic Latino research firm.

Biden leads among Latinos of all ages, but where Trump has made the most inroads is with young Latino men, receiving 42 percent. By comparison, Biden tops Trump with young Latinas 69-16 percent, older Latinas 67-25 percent and older men 64-34 percent. A total of 64 percent of Latinos in the state disapprove of Trump.

Arizona’s growing Latino population, which is overwhelmingly of Mexican descent, is a key reason the state could swing to Democrats in the presidential race for the first time since 1996. Shifting attitudes of white college-educated voters in the suburbs of Maricopa County, and Trump himself, have also contributed to the state’s changing political landscape.

“There's room for Joe Biden to grow his support among Latinos in Arizona in this last 50 days,” said Stephanie Valencia, co-founder of Equis Research, which hired GBAO Strategies to conduct the poll. “There's a lot of room for him to continue to make his case to these younger Hispanic men who may be intrigued by Trump but aren't totally sold on voting for him yet.”

Trump's support increased by 8 points among Latinos in Arizona compared with the president’s 2019 average in four waves of Equis polling. After weekend events in Nevada, Trump held a Latino roundtable in Phoenix on Monday.

Valencia attributed the shift to “Trump intrigue” around the president’s business personality. Latino men under the age of 50 represented the greatest statistical bump for Trump since an Equis’ poll from May. The boost for Trump among young Latino men could be a product of a smaller subsample, Valencia said. But even if the true change were half the size, she said, “we would come to the same conclusion: young men have been increasingly moving toward Trump.”

“While more than 40 percent say they are supporting Trump today,” Valencia added. “Only 26 percent rate themselves very likely to support him at the end of the day.”

As the election nears, Biden’s campaign has rushed to shore up more Latino support, particularly in the battleground of Florida where he appears to be underperforming Clinton among Latinos in the state. Biden is heading to Florida on Tuesday for a Hispanic heritage event and a veterans' roundtable.


In Arizona, Biden’s team is aiming to win at least 70 percent of the Latino vote — the same share of Latinos Sen. Kyrsten Sinema won in her 2018 race when she became the first Democrat to win a Senate seat in Arizona since the 1980s. Latinos will be one of the crucial blocs to determine who wins the pivotal Maricopa County and can help in the Democratic-leaning Pima County.

“The path to victory here in Arizona, and in some other states, runs through the Latino community,” Jessica Mejía, Biden’s Arizona state director, told POLITICO earlier this month.

Arizona Latinos preferred Biden on every issue polled, leading Trump by 44 points on who voters thought would best handle health care issues. When asked who would do a better job of handling the coronavirus, 67 percent of voters preferred Biden, compared with 25 percent for Trump. On immigration, Biden led 67-27 percent. He also led on the economy, with 57 percent compared with Trump's 35 percent.

Valencia said that when Latinos are given more details about Biden's platform, his favorability rises because the former vice president is still undefined among the group. The poll also found that Democratic Senate candidate Mark Kelly, who has steadily led Republican Sen. Martha McSally in polls, is outperforming Biden with Latinos in the state.

Arizona Latinos favor Kelly over McSally 65 percent to 27 percent. The poll surveyed 600 registered Latino voters in English and Spanish across Arizona from Aug. 20-Sept. 2, and has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percent.

Seventy-one percent of Latinos in Arizona said they’re “very motivated” to vote.

Biden’s statewide lead in Arizona, where he is ahead of Trump by an average of 5 points, is also boosted by his numbers with white voters. Biden is ahead of Trump by 22 points with white college-educated voters in the state, according to a monthly tracking poll by Phoenix-based OH Predictive Insights. Trump won that same group by 6 points in 2016. The shift among college-educated white voters has materialized in the suburbs of other battlegrounds as well. But Valencia cautioned Democrats against overconfidence in the Grand Canyon State.

"If the election were held today, Biden would probably win in a place like Arizona based on where he's sitting with white support,” she said. Still, Valencia said, Biden faces a challenge if there's any fluctuation in white voter support — even if it's just a couple of points.

"If Democrats have not done the work to increase support among Latinos to close that gap then that is when there will be trouble," Valencia said.

Biden continues to probably win the election everyday up until the election. Normalcy is one hell of a drug.
 
"Trump might be knocking on doors but the Dems own the tech game."

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Yeah, about that...

And again, I want to stress this, I'm not a Republican and have never signed up to any GOP mailing list. And this isn't even the first page of my inbox, just the first screen full.
 
Monday with Barnes and Baris.


This time they talk the Rust Belt and Baris gives us insight into his polling of specific states. Each one is spoilered to condense sizes. Keep in mind that his polling is not done and Baris himself is biased towards Trump, but I still give him props for being the most transparent pollster ever. Also, Barnes is a big gambler for these races so he puts his own money on the line for the winner so he has more of a stake than most.

TLDW: Non-competitive. Easy Trump win. Will only go for Biden in a double digit landslide. Ohio may vote more Republican than Iowa.
TLDW: Weakest state in the Rust Belt for Trump but still highly competitive. Due to Detroit has a large fraud system and that bitch from Michigan, it is difficult for him to win. They predict black vote will be down, and the Auto Bailout Biden takes credit for is overshadowed for their hatred for NAFTA.
TLDW: Strongest Trump state to hold. Republican registration has shifted +2 since 2016, the biggest shift towards Republicans in Pennsylvanian history. Trends state that Trump will have a better vote margin than 2016.
TLDW: Doing better in Wisconsin margins than 2016, but wants to view the northern part of the state before he makes any call on the race.
TLDW: Policing and crime as a core voter issue is running ahead of other states by 6-7 points due to being the riot epicenter. If the Iron Range swings hard enough, Minnesota flips. Also, Biden is doing worse in Minneapolis and their suburbs than Hillary. Also, St. Louis might flip towards Trump.


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TLDW: If it was a fair election, Barnes gives it a 50% chance. However, due to fraud, Trump will probably win on election day and then lose when counted unless Bush v Gore 2.0 happens.
TLDW: This election has the highest class divide since 1948 by about 50 points (famously known as Dewey v Truman). The most enthusiastic voter this election is a working class voter, and they are trending HARD for Trump. This means extremely bad poll margins. Expect some crazy shit come election day. Starts around 44:55. Gets to the meat of the analysis at 50:17.
Seriously support these guys by giving their other stuff a watch. They do this for exposure/ fun and are better than most when it comes to this shit. Especially Nate Packing Peanuts.
 
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Monday with Barnes and Baris.


This time they talk the Rust Belt and Baris gives us insight into his polling of specific states. Each one is spoilered to condense sizes. Keep in mind that his polling is not done and Baris himself is biased towards Trump, but I still give him props for being the most transparent pollster ever. Also, Barnes is a big gambler for these races so he puts his own money on the line for the winner so he has more of a stake than most.

TLDW: Non-competitive. Easy Trump win. Will only go for Biden in a double digit landslide. Ohio may vote more Republican than Iowa.
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TLDW: Weakest state in the Rust Belt for Trump but still highly competitive. Due to Detroit has a large fraud system and that bitch from Michigan, it is difficult for him to win. They predict black vote will be down, and the Auto Bailout Biden takes credit for is overshadowed for their hatred for NAFTA.
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TLDW: Strongest Trump state to hold. Republican registration has shifted +2 since 2016, the biggest shift towards Republicans in Pennsylvanian history. Trends state that Trump will have a better vote margin than 2016.
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TLDW: Doing better in Wisconsin margins than 2016, but wants to view the northern part of the state before he makes any call on the race.
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TLDW: Policing and crime as a core voter issue is running ahead of other states by 6-7 points due to being the riot epicenter. If the Iron Range swings hard enough, Minnesota flips. Also, Biden is doing worse in Minneapolis and their suburbs than Hillary. Also, St. Louis might flip towards Trump.
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Bonus:
TLDW: If it was a fair election, Barnes gives it a 50% chance. However, due to fraud, Trump will probably win on election day and then lose when counted unless Bush v Gore 2.0 happens.
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TLDW: This election has the highest class divide since 1948 by about 50 points (famously known as Dewey v Truman). This means extremely bad poll margins. Expect some crazy shit come election day.
Seriously support these guys by giving their other stuff a watch. They do this for exposure/ fun and are better than most when it comes to this shit. Especially Nate Packing Peanuts.
What are their takes on North Carolina and tossing up in Arizona? Have they mentioned any shifts in New York, or is the dream dead for Don at the very least?

EDIT: Dewey v. Truman? Trump v. Hillary was second coming of that shit (the Madam President newsweek cover / "Dewey Defeats Truman" headline). And now this again? Expect to see Biden Finishes Trump articles in October.
 
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