U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

[Bad Take Crucifier]

Id feel bad for this guy, except he has children and this fucking piece of shit wants to drown in his own self-pity rather than fight for his family. What pathetic men we have in this country. 80 years ago, you had 18 year olds getting sent to war and even volunteering for it, now we got losers like this who want to end their own life because they can’t figure out a way to help their family.

Not only that, but end everyone's lives by promoting communism and nihilism.

"I failed as a man, lost my job, failed school, can't feed my kids, and now the system won't bail me out! Capitalism did this!"

 

[ShortBusDriver]

You need to stop taking legal advice from SovCits.

There are all sorts of situations where passengers are required to identity themselves. Such as commercial vehicles. Like taxis. Rules are different.

Do you have a creditable source to back up your claim?

Passengers have no obligation in the state of Georgia to provide ID during a traffic stop unless they are suspected of committing a crime, which in this case, the only infraction was the driver and their broke taillight.

In Stufflebeam v. Harris found that while the officer can ask a passenger for an ID the passenger is under no obligation to provide it.

In US v. Landeros the 9th Circuit again upheld that passengers have no obligation to provide an ID unless they are suspected of a crime.

I’d be interested in what state or case law you can cite that nullifies the 4th amendment because a person is riding in a taxi because that sounds like cop sock nonsense.

 

[Meat Target]

After having people say "Antifa is a boogeyman created by Ted Cruz" I am personally glad that this ran in the New York Times. Because those people look like idiots now

Don't count on it. Eurasia Eastasia blah blah blah memory hole.

 

[Fek]

For the first time in a month, I've found the end of the thread. Holy fucking tap-dancing Christ, you guys keep this one moving.

What a ride, too. To think all of this insanity just keeps going months after St. Fentanyl transcended existence..man. I don't know how some of you have kept such close tabs on this for so long without driving yourselves insane, but I will forever be eternally grateful that so many of you have gone out of your way to catalog sooo many happenings across the entire fucking country in this thread. You're all fucking beautiful.

 

[Syaoran Li]

It comes from OWS? I just assumed it's a standard hoodrat trick that they culturally appropriated.

Yeah, Occupy Wall Street is more or less Patient Zero for a lot of this shit but the Antifa black bloc shit didn't become a thing in Occupy outside major blue strongholds like NYC and the West Coast and it was at least a little ways into the initial wave of protests.

I honestly think the OWS stuff all got subverted by the glowies and proto-woke college kids who got guided to the protests by the corporate bigwigs and took over.

Antifa in North America more or less began with punk rock in the early 1980's while in Europe, it got its start with the labor unions during the upheaval of the 1960's. But the Woke Left really was a thing from late 2011 onward and coincidentally that's around the time Occupy got started.

Granted, you had several direct precursors to the Woke Left in the late 90's and 2000's that were primarily focused in academia or in niche groups like the New Atheists and the punk subculture and the bastardized offshoots thereof like the mall goths, emo kids, and hipsters. But they were all either small in number, their influence was contained to specific areas like college towns.

You also had the fact that everyone was more or less against the Religious Right and the neocons who backed them. Even moderates, "Y2K Liberals", and libertarians could all join forces with the Left because the fundies and their neocon puppet masters were just that despicable. Once Bush was gone and there was no real common opponent, it all kind of imploded. The Great Recession and the corporatist policies of Obama were another aspect that made things a lot worse.

I think a lot of moderates, liberals, and "normies" couldn't get their minds wrapped around the fact that left-wing moral guardians could even exist, especially those from Generation X and the youngest Boomers/oldest Millennials. They grew up and spent most of their young adulthood in the mindset that the conservatives were moralist Bible-thumpers and neocons, the libertarians were just liberals who liked guns and weed, and the leftists were all Y2K Liberals like them and anyone who was a communist after 1991 was just some fringe loonie on par with the UFO crowd and the idea that the far-left could be a major issue post-Cold War and that the Woke Left would not only be a thing but more or less supplant the Religious Right was completely alien to them.

The BLM coup in the wake of George Floyd's death is the thing that's getting them to wake up and admit some harsh truths, even if they're too scared to admit it publicly. The only thing that is keeping them in line is the election. Everyone is banking on the outcome of it in some way, and there's a lot pending on the outcome from multiple angles.

I do think a Trump reelection will fix a lot of the biggest issues since it would get a lot of the big corporate leaders to realize 2016 was not a fluke (especially if Trump can snag a popular vote win) and if BLM and Antifa continue their violent temper tantrum, they're going to get quashed a lot harder since Trump and the DOJ won't have to worry about the media's optics trap. Both the DOJ and groups like the DNC and corporate bigwigs are more likely to make examples of certain Woke Left figureheads if Trump can win despite all this, whether via federal criminal charges or internal corporate purges and removals from office.

The antifags have been around for a loooong time. I know the "Battle for Seattle" happened 21 years ago but anyone pretending Ted Cruz "invented" them is just plain wrong. They were already idiots for believing antifag propaganda.

They've existed continuously in Europe since the 1960's with the big labor strikes in Germany at the time and the Years of Lead in countries like Italy. In North America, they got their start with the punk subculture in the 80's but were fucking obscure and mainly confined to a few lefty coastal cities and some lefty cities in the Midwest (Chicago and the Twin Cities mainly) prior to 2016.

Unless you were a sperg about the history of fringe politics or you lived in key cities like Seattle or San Francisco, the odds are that you probably didn't hear of them until Antifa started to get a lot of coverage in the media in the 2010's

 

[Vaclav]

The soyboys are not backed by the military. No grunt would fight for these guys. Their big bad rifle-toting veteran in Austin got killed by an Uber driver. The glowing JBGC deserter drove around without license plates then fled when he got IDed. The "wall of vets" at the Portland federal courthouse posed for pictures, then completely disappeared once the tear gas got thrown.

This is what it boils down to. If a civil war is to happen, who will be fighting on the left side? From military to police to good-old-boy gun clubs, the overwhelming majority of people in the US who can competently fight are on the right. The left has Antifa and BLM. These groups are one part yuppie larpers, who will melt away as soon as violence gets serious, and one part burned-out criminals with nothing to lose. The latter group can be brutal but they have no discipline.

Make no mistake, Antifa is good at organizing riots, crybullying and assaulting unsuspecting people, as described here:

Antifa Reality Check | American Partisan

www.americanpartisan.org

They also had a cleanup team at the site of the Jay Bishop assassination to grab shell casings, not that it stopped police from finding Reinoehl. But these actions involved large groups of antifa versus unsuspecting targets in liberal cities where they have the implicit support of the government. They've shown no ability to take and hold ground in places where they don't already own the politicians.

They've gone around the bend on public opinion at this point; they're known for destruction and terror, not making any kind of social progress. That's why Biden is disavowing them. Police have been under a massive attack from the left for the last six months, and those are the only people who in other circumstances might have fought on the side of Antifa-allied blue mayors. Will the US military take the side of communist Molotov-throwers? When they decide to move to the violent overthrow stage of their revolution, what armed force will answer their call?

 

[TFT-A9]

Yeah, Occupy Wall Street is more or less Patient Zero for a lot of this shit but the Antifa black bloc shit didn't become a thing in Occupy outside major blue strongholds like NYC and the West Coast and it was at least a little ways into the initial wave of protests.

I honestly think the OWS stuff all got subverted by the glowies and proto-woke college kids who got guided to the protests by the corporate bigwigs and took over.

Antifa in North America more or less began with punk rock in the early 1980's while in Europe, it got its start with the labor unions during the upheaval of the 1960's. But the Woke Left really was a thing from late 2011 onward and coincidentally that's around the time Occupy got started.

Granted, you had several direct precursors to the Woke Left in the late 90's and 2000's that were primarily focused in academia or in niche groups like the New Atheists and the punk subculture and the bastardized offshoots thereof like the mall goths, emo kids, and hipsters. But they were all either small in number, their influence was contained to specific areas like college towns.

You also had the fact that everyone was more or less against the Religious Right and the neocons who backed them. Even moderates, "Y2K Liberals", and libertarians could all join forces with the Left because the fundies and their neocon puppet masters were just that despicable. Once Bush was gone and there was no real common opponent, it all kind of imploded. The Great Recession and the corporatist policies of Obama were another aspect that made things a lot worse.

I think a lot of moderates, liberals, and "normies" couldn't get their minds wrapped around the fact that left-wing moral guardians could even exist, especially those from Generation X and the youngest Boomers/oldest Millennials. They grew up and spent most of their young adulthood in the mindset that the conservatives were moralist Bible-thumpers and neocons, the libertarians were just liberals who liked guns and weed, and the leftists were all Y2K Liberals like them and anyone who was a communist after 1991 was just some fringe loonie on par with the UFO crowd and the idea that the far-left could be a major issue post-Cold War and that the Woke Left would not only be a thing but more or less supplant the Religious Right was completely alien to them.

The BLM coup in the wake of George Floyd's death is the thing that's getting them to wake up and admit some harsh truths, even if they're too scared to admit it publicly. The only thing that is keeping them in line is the election. Everyone is banking on the outcome of it in some way, and there's a lot pending on the outcome from multiple angles.

I do think a Trump reelection will fix a lot of the biggest issues since it would get a lot of the big corporate leaders to realize 2016 was not a fluke (especially if Trump can snag a popular vote win) and if BLM and Antifa continue their violent temper tantrum, they're going to get quashed a lot harder since Trump and the DOJ won't have to worry about the media's optics trap. Both the DOJ and groups like the DNC and corporate bigwigs are more likely to make examples of certain Woke Left figureheads if Trump can win despite all this, whether via federal criminal charges or internal corporate purges and removals from office.

It's really alarming how well and how thoroughly OWS was infiltrated and effectively dismantled. They knew they had to strike before OWS started forming a consistent, coherent message and started formulating tangible, reasonable goals and organizing coherent protest regarding the status quo. They very literally smothered it in the hospital bassinet. Say what you will about TPTB but they fucking won that, and they won it HARD.

 

[Meat Target]

Make no mistake, Antifa is good at organizing riots, crybullying and assaulting unsuspecting people, as described here:

https://www.americanpartisan.org/2020/09/antifa-reality-check/

That article is barely readable. Punctuation and paragraphs are your friends, you're not Cormac McCarthy.

Edit:

From military to police to good-old-boy gun clubs, the overwhelming majority of people in the US who can competently fight are on the right.

The cops and military obey the ones who pay them. They won't obey Antifa, but they will obey their liberal DAs and governors. See also: Waco, Ruby Ridge.

 

[Bad Take Crucifier]

Antifa in North America more or less began with punk rock in the early 1980's while in Europe, it got its start with the labor unions during the upheaval of the 1960's. But the Woke Left really was a thing from late 2011 onward and coincidentally that's around the time Occupy got started.

Antifa culturally appropriated punk rock. Modern "punks" (antifa) are some of the softest, pampered babies you'll ever meet, who are acting out because they want to be special and daddy won't let them use the credit card. Antifa likes to project a bunch of modern communist values into older punk rock bands. (lol)

Actual punk rock was about being hard, being weird, and doing drugs... But not being sad because the government won't pay for your troon surgery.

 

[Evilronald]

Not only that, but end everyone's lives by promoting communism and nihilism.

"I failed as a man, lost my job, failed school, can't feed my kids, and now the system won't bail me out! Capitalism did this!"

They act like in a communist society, they could be a deadbeat and not do anything productive while everyone else works and provides their necessary goods and services. In capitalism, you can make enough money to never need to work again. In communism: you either work until you’re old or until you die. Not working hard enough in the Soviet Union was a sure way to the gulag or a summary execution.

 

[Who dat?]

Louisville rolling over re. Breonna Taylor, live, now. Don't know of a non-TV-network stream. Just now giving out details. Payment of $12 million.

Stream may be here: https://www.whas11.com/article/news...mily/417-a33cda1f-ee1b-4953-976f-a19cdf8a67bf

 

[Syaoran Li]

Antifa culturally appropriated punk rock. Modern "punks" (antifa) are some of the softest, pampered babies you'll ever meet, who are acting out because they want to be special and daddy won't let them use the credit card. Antifa likes to project a bunch of modern communist values into older punk rock bands. (lol)

Actual punk rock was about being hard, being weird, and doing drugs... But not being sad because the government won't pay for your troon surgery.

Dude, The Clash was one of the OG punk bands from the 70's and they were hardcore extreme leftists. Same goes for Crass, who were literal Anarcho-Communists.

Punk is one of the most overrated and undeservedly lionized genres in the history of modern music and pop culture, and the common romanticized take on the punk subculture more or less hides the fact that punk was always a pretentious pseudo-intellectual circle jerk and it was never good.

Those few "true punks" either died (GG Allin, Seth Putnam, Sid Vicious), got old and irrelevant before being dismissed as "not real punk" (The Ramones) or became goths and then got old and irrelevant once the goths fell into their own set of pretentious purity spirals and snobbery like their punk predecessors (The Sisters of Mercy, Siouxsie, The Cure)

The Misfits were probably the closest ones to this naive idealized image of apolitical "true punks" that did not end up in disgrace and successfully remained apolitical but the fact is that punk was always majority lefty and pretentious as fuck.

Punk was a mistake and it was never good.

 

[Constellationzero]

There is one thing that NEVER fails to suddenly occur.

One standard across all of this.

The complete look of SHOCK when these idiot's actions have consequences.

>Jumps on car
>Gets thrown off
shockedpikachu.jpg

>Yells "SHOOT ME"
>Gets shot
shockedpikachu.jpg

>Assaults cop
>Gets beat down
shockedpikachu.jpg

Even more funny is if it involves injury.

The literal childish squeals and REEEEEEEEEing from them combined with the look of total shock it could happen to them.

Their sobs and crying as blood runs down their faces remind me more of small children than adults. As if its the first time they've had repercussions collide with physical injury and they can't understand how it happened because it never happens in their media or ever before in their lives.

It makes me laugh every time I see it.

What is the icing on the cake is the sheer shock from the bystanders and their fellow rioters.

Stand in front of cars, get yeeted, and not only is the injured one shrieking like an injured monkey the other rioters are screaming as if they had been injured too.

It's a bunch of literal children in adult bodies, right down to not able to discern cause and effect.

MIDSOMMAR!
Urban Yeeting

 

[Puff]

Dude, The Clash was one of the OG punk bands from the 70's and they were hardcore extreme leftists. Same goes for Crass, who were literal Anarcho-Communists.

Punk is one of the most overrated and undeservedly lionized genres in the history of modern music and pop culture, and the common romanticized take on the punk subculture more or less hides the fact that punk was always a pretentious pseudo-intellectual circle jerk and it was never good.

Those few "true punks" either died (GG Allin, Seth Putnam, Sid Vicious), got old and irrelevant before being dismissed as "not real punk" (The Ramones) or became goths and then got old and irrelevant once the goths fell into their own set of pretentious purity spirals and snobbery like their punk predecessors (The Sisters of Mercy, Siouxsie, The Cure)

The Misfits were probably the closest ones to this naive idealized image of apolitical "true punks" that did not end up in disgrace and successfully remained apolitical but the fact is that punk was always majority lefty and pretentious as fuck.

Punk was a mistake and it was never good.

And the singer of the Misfits joined the Proud Boys a few months ago. Not particularly apolitical anymore.

 

[Bad Take Crucifier]

Dude, The Clash was one of the OG punk bands from the 70's and they were hardcore extreme leftists. Same goes for Crass, who were literal Anarcho-Communists.

Punk is one of the most overrated and undeservedly lionized genres in the history of modern music and pop culture, and the common romanticized take on the punk subculture more or less hides the fact that punk was always a pretentious pseudo-intellectual circle jerk and it was never good.

Those few "true punks" either died (GG Allin, Seth Putnam, Sid Vicious), got old and irrelevant before being dismissed as "not real punk" (The Ramones) or became goths and then got old and irrelevant once the goths fell into their own set of pretentious purity spirals and snobbery like their punk predecessors (The Sisters of Mercy, Siouxsie, The Cure)

The Misfits were probably the closest ones to this naive idealized image of apolitical "true punks" that did not end up in disgrace and successfully remained apolitical but the fact is that punk was always majority lefty and pretentious as fuck.

Punk was a mistake and it was never good.

Lots of antifa messages hidden in this song

Punk of the 70s and 80s still doesn't look anything like modern SJWs who are upset the government won't pay them to troon out. There's a reason "Nazi punks fuck off" was a thing: Political spectrum existed in punk rock, too. Buuuuuuut these days, you can be a whiny blue haired ham planet who blogs all day, and claim you're "punk and antifa," it's pretty pathetic. The point is, complete useless wimps claim to be "the real punk rockers" now because they have nothing else going in their lives. (And like many antifa, ironically come from a rich household)

That, and there's even a whole revisionist history to punk that claims skinhead "appropriated punk culture as """nazis'"""," not the other way around. They don't want people to think there was ever a right wing in punk culture, and they claim all of it was nazism.

 

[Jarolleon]

It's really alarming how well and how thoroughly OWS was infiltrated and effectively dismantled. They knew they had to strike before OWS started forming a consistent, coherent message and started formulating tangible, reasonable goals and organizing coherent protest regarding the status quo. They very literally smothered it in the hospital bassinet. Say what you will about TPTB but they fucking won that, and they won it HARD.

And now even straight-up commies will probably tell you that megacorps with "corporate social responsibility" and HR departments that fire you for shitposting are the next best thing if they can't get real communism. After all, where will the HRT come from without Big Pharma?

 

[DeadFish]

For the first time in a month, I've found the end of the thread. Holy fucking tap-dancing Christ, you guys keep this one moving.

What a ride, too. To think all of this insanity just keeps going months after St. Fentanyl transcended existence..man. I don't know how some of you have kept such close tabs on this for so long without driving yourselves insane, but I will forever be eternally grateful that so many of you have gone out of your way to catalog sooo many happenings across the entire fucking country in this thread. You're all fucking beautiful.

Cause sports and ultimate fighting got boring

 

[Vaclav]

The cops and military obey the ones who pay them. They won't obey Antifa, but they will obey their liberal DAs and governors. See also: Waco, Ruby Ridge.

A civil war situation would be much different than Waco or Ruby Ridge. In those cases, small right-wing groups identified as criminals were defying the government. The national mood was peaceful and prosperous. The status quo was working for almost everyone and the forces of normalcy crushed upstarts who were threatening to shake things up.

Today there is no more normal. Violence from people who expressly intend to overthrow the United States is the norm. Police in liberal cities despise their superiors but they follow orders because they're afraid of losing their all-important pensions. If Civil War 2 cracks off, pensions will no longer be a concern. There are two sides, and one of them embodies everything the police and military hate. If the left wins, it's likely that anyone who was a cop before will be treated to an extravagant public execution. I wonder which side they'll choose.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Louisville rolling over re. Breonna Taylor, live, now. Don't know of a non-TV-network stream. Just now giving out details. Payment of $12 million.

Stream may be here: https://www.whas11.com/article/news...mily/417-a33cda1f-ee1b-4953-976f-a19cdf8a67bf

I actually don't mind this, though I still think the entire thing was sketchy with the information about her being involved still with drug transactions/money holding. Still, it gets her family out of the situation as they now have something to lose. Their 12 million dollars won't mean anything if BLM thugs burn down the St Louis Fed branch. No more true emotional justification for rioting on behalf of her, which is a big deal as she was the "purest" martyr for BLM/antifa. It's like in Lancaster after the video came out justifying the shooting entirely. Sure, the hardliners don't care one way or the other, but the cannon fodder is discouraged since the victimhood narrative is now ameliorated.

And that's really the issue. The CHAZ wasn't a dividing point for the nation, really, when they started killing black teens and the only autonomous residents were druggies, homeless, and LARPers. It was a dividing point with a lot of potential for political/social chaos when it was a street festival through which parents took their kids biking. Once those murders started, it looked more like a Stockholm ghetto than a festive autonomous zone. And that took the wind out of the sails of the people who claimed it would be the staging ground for a social and political revolution.

At least, that's how it seems to me. Once normies aren't as easy to anger or sway, it just becomes criminals rioting. And nobody wants criminals rioting except other criminals.

 

[Harvey Danger]

It's really alarming how well and how thoroughly OWS was infiltrated and effectively dismantled. They knew they had to strike before OWS started forming a consistent, coherent message and started formulating tangible, reasonable goals and organizing coherent protest regarding the status quo. They very literally smothered it in the hospital bassinet. Say what you will about TPTB but they fucking won that, and they won it HARD.

They were never going to form a consistent, coherent message. They were nowhere near reasonable goals, even at its most "pure" in the beginning. Here is their original list of 13 demands:

1. Restoration of the living wage.
2. Institute a universal single payer healthcare system.
3. Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
4. Free college education.
5. Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.
6. One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.
7. One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.
8. Racial and gender equal rights amendment.
9. Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.
10. Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.
11. Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now!
12. Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.
13. Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

You might say, "well some of these look reasonable, maybe they could narrow down and focus on that". But they couldn't even agree on this list. Once the media noticed it and started passing it around, OWS freaked out and disavowed it.

Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands.

As illustrated by BLM, it's a consistent trait of modern lefty protests that they can't stay focused on one thing they want to fix. They always expand to a general list of grievances. Part of this is because of their insipid version of systemic guilt, but it's mostly because they want to draw in "allies" to boost their numbers. And the allies want their agenda tacked on to the main protest's agenda in exchange.