🐱 Trump’s Shredding of Civil Liberties Won’t Stop With Antifa

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There is still a lot we don’t know about the killing, early this month, of Michael Forest Reinoehl.

Reinoehl, a self-described antifa supporter, was a suspect in the shooting of Aaron J. Danielson, a backer of the far-right group Patriot Prayer, during an August street confrontation in Portland, Ore. Prosecutors charged him with murder. Reinoehl, speaking to Vice News, said he acted in self-defense. There will be no trial to sort out what happened, because the federal marshals sent to arrest him gunned him down.

Federal authorities claimed that Reinoehl had a gun. The Olympian newspaper quoted two witnesses who said Reinoehlfired at the police, but one later said his remarks had been misconstrued and he wasn’t sure if Reinoehl had a weapon. A third witness said that Reinoehl was carrying only a cellphone, and that the marshals started shooting at him without announcing themselves.


Even if Reinoehl’s killing was justified, in a country where the rule of law held, the government would have treated it as regrettable. For Donald Trump’s administration, Reinoehl’s death was cause for celebration.

Calling Reinoehl a “dangerous fugitive, admitted antifa member, and suspected murderer,” Attorney General William P. Barr said in a statement, “The streets of our cities are safer with this violent agitator removed.” Trump, in a Fox News interview on Saturday, said of the killing, “That’s the way it has to be. There has to be retribution when you have crime like this.” (Perhaps needless to say, law enforcement is not permitted to kill suspects in “retribution.”) Trump continued the theme at his Nevada rally Sunday night, saying to cheers, “We sent in the U.S. marshals, it was taken care of in 15 minutes.”


Trump, of course, defended Kyle Rittenhouse, a supporter of his charged with killing two people at a protest last month, and who, like Reinoehl, claimed self-defense. For the president, it’s not Reinoehl’s alleged actions that justify extrajudicial killing. It’s his politics, and those of his victim. Trump and Barr are all but declaring certain Americans beyond the law’s protections.


Inasmuch as antifa is conflated with street-fighting, vandalizing anarchists, it does not garner much mainstream sympathy. This popular understanding of antifa isn’t quite correct; some people associated with the movement mainly focus on researching and exposing members of the far right. (I once met a middle-aged woman, the granddaughter of Holocaust survivors, who described herself as “antifa C.I.A.” for the volunteer work she did tracking right-wing extremists for an antifa-aligned organization called the One People’s Project.) Still, there’s obviously overlap between antifa and violent and destructive elements on the far left.

You don’t have to like antifa, however, to believe its adherents deserve basic civil liberties, or to see how egregiously those civil liberties are being violated.


In a recent whistle-blower complaint, Brian Murphy, a high-level official in the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Intelligence and Analysis, described political pressure to play down the threat of white supremacist terrorism and exaggerate the danger posed by leftists. Murphy reported multiple orders to “modify intelligence assessments to ensure they matched up with the public comments by President Trump on the subject of antifa and ‘anarchist’ groups.”


If Murphy, a conservative Republican, is telling the truth, political appointees at D.H.S. are trying to twist evidence to target Trump’s political enemies.

Now, Murphy is a problematic figure, and he’s given the administration openings to discredit him. This summer, he was reassigned after revelations that his office created intelligence dossiers on journalists covering protests in Portland. In August, Adam Schiff, the California Democrat who heads the House Intelligence Committee, said that Murphy might have provided “incomplete and potentially misleading information to committee staff” about D.H.S.’s Portland activities.

Murphy clashed with many of his colleagues at the department, including some who’ve since come out against Trump. Elizabeth Neumann, a former high-level counterterrorism official at D.H.S., has, like Murphy, accused the administration of minimizing the threat of white supremacist terrorism. But she described Murphy as a bully with “credibility challenges.”


Still, Neumann, who left D.H.S. in April, said Murphy’s account of internal demands to overhype the antifa menace rang true. Citing public leaks from the agency, she said, “D.H.S. as a whole was focused more on antifa because of the president’s rhetoric, not because the threat itself demanded it.”

If it’s the official posture of the government that the antifa movement constitutes a major security threat, that will influence how individual agents behave. Trump has repeatedly sent American law enforcement the message that members of antifa are terrorists who should be treated with extreme violence, and that protests against racial injustice and his administration are dominated by antifa.

There are many ways the presidential election could go sideways, leading to mass demonstrations over ballot counting. In the same Fox News interview in which he gloated over Reinoehl’s death, Trump was asked what he would do if his opponents “riot” on election night.

“We’ll put them down very quickly,” he said. All those who’ve demonstrated against this president should know that what’s done to antifa today can be done to them tomorrow.
 
You don’t have to like antifa, however, to believe its adherents deserve basic civil liberties...
They don't.
Antifa (Communists) do not believe in natural rights or civil liberties. I see no logic and no sense in giving people the benefits of a society that they actively seek to undermine and destroy (see Terminiello v. Chicago, Jackson dissent).

Liberals, useful idiots, and fellow travelers have valiantly defended the right of Communists to infiltrate and subvert American academia, mass media, industry, and government, largely to satisfy their own masturbatory vision of themselves as morally consistent in defense of people who would gladly see them dead. Meanwhile, we're in the position we're in now because the (((Michelle Goldberg)))s of America try to twist the principles of liberal society to whatever their benefit is at that particular moment.

All those who’ve demonstrated against this president should know that what’s done to antifa today can be done to them tomorrow.
I'm fine with that. I'd rather fight Cheetos Hitler with fewer people behind me than with Commies waiting to stab me in the back as soon as the opportunity presented itself, sort of like they do to everyone with whom they form the so-called 'United Front.'
 
"Trump is a fuckface doo doo head who has a small penis and a large butt and his butt smells and he often likes to drop his pants to bend over to reach around and sniff his own butt"

Come on Trump's secret police that far left bastards feel are in the wings somehow, I'm waiting. Totally gonna get oppressed, for sure. Rights stripped, freedoms waived and unjustly nullified. Bring it, lefties.
 
Nobody celebrated the death of reamhole, we all wanted to see him sent to gen. pop. with a black power tattoo. That would of been justice in itself. But the faggot went and did a suicide by cop and now all the soy zoys and zirlz are trying their hardest to martyr him.
 
Ever since I started noticing shit around 2012; not a day goes by do I think Civil Rights/Liberties is one of the most perverted ideas ever conceived. It looks good on paper, and probably even works with a homogenous society. But anymore, any sleight against you where you don't get it your way right away, is some sort of violation on par with human trafficking.
 
I'm sure the author sees the death of every neo Nazi and Klansmen as "regrettable".

Who is the author anyway?

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I... I'm not even sure.
 
I find it strange that popular articles about Antifa fail to point out the meaning of the red and black flag in their logo. What a strange thing to forget to mention when you focused on Trump's campaign using an upside-down red triangle that looks like a yield sign because some obscure racist group did it before.
 
Well, yes. I'm not a fan of black bagging American citizens on American soil, no matter what they've done. But THIS IS WHAT FUCKING HAPPENS. When cities start burning, people will being willing to accept extreme measures to get their lives back, because the only thing worse than tyranny is anarchy. Under tyranny, sometimes you get lucky and get protected or just left alone. Under anarchy, the strong eat the weak, and the bad guys always win.
 
Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferer who thinks the farms is a blog site to whine about shit feds do posts an opinion piece and gets dogpiled by Trump Enslavement Syndrome sufferers that think the farms is an extension of /pol/.

What a wonderful thread this is.
I don't think you really understand the social dynamics of this little subforum.

@CatParty hates everyone equally, no "Trump derangement" with him. CatParty always posts bad news/propaganda/shitpiece articles for the purposes of bait or mockery. People in this subforum either get baited by the article or mock it and its author. None of the posts in this here thread are specifically displays of "Trump enslavement" (or whatever you might call it, I think a better term would probably be "Trump enthrallment"), or /pol/-tardery or what have you (in fact, most all of them seem to be basic common sense opinions on the matter).
 
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I don't think you really understand the social dynamics of this little subforum.

@CatParty hates everyone equally, no "Trump derangement" with him. CatParty always posts bad news/propaganda/shitpiece articles for the purposes of bait or mockery. People in this subforum either get baited by the article or mock it and its author. None of the posts in this here thread are specifically displays of "Trump enslavement" (or whatever you might call it), or /pol/-tardery or what have you (in fact, most all of them seem to be basic common sense opinions on the matter).

Ah shit I fell for it, god damn it (:_(
 
I don't think you really understand the social dynamics of this little subforum.

@CatParty hates everyone equally, no "Trump derangement" with him. CatParty always posts bad news/propaganda/shitpiece articles for the purposes of bait or mockery. People in this subforum either get baited by the article or mock it and its author. None of the posts in this here thread are specifically displays of "Trump enslavement" (or whatever you might call it), or /pol/-tardery or what have you (in fact, most all of them seem to be basic common sense opinions on the matter).
We need more poop news
 
Well, yes. I'm not a fan of black bagging American citizens on American soil, no matter what they've done. But THIS IS WHAT FUCKING HAPPENS. When cities start burning, people will being willing to accept extreme measures to get their lives back, because the only thing worse than tyranny is anarchy. Under tyranny, sometimes you get lucky and get protected or just left alone. Under anarchy, the strong eat the weak, and the bad guys always win.
We all watched the video of this shitstain murdering an (actually) peaceful protester. We all saw his meth face and his terrible BLM fist neck tattoo. Fuck him, and fuck the Jew version of Mrs. Quan from Mad TV who wrote this article.
 
Unlike Kyle Rittenhouse, who shot three people who were pursuing and attacking him, Reinoehl callously assassinated someone in the street, with no warning at all, to try and sway the behaviors and political opinions of others. That is the classical definition of a terrorist. Antifa is trying to bring America to the brink of civil war. This is a manufactured color revolution, the same as in Ukraine, the same as the Arab Spring. There’s nothing organic about it at all. The people at the head of the pack are paid agitators with wealthy and powerful backers.

 
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