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Honestly, is this something that ever happens? If it did before, does it ever now? I want to see the guy that doctors are turning away, saying "no, you're not a real transwoman, you're just fucking nuts."
JK Rowling’s latest book is about a murderous cis man who dresses as a woman to kill his victims - Discuss all the JK Rowling tranny shit here
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I only specified "women with uteruses" because JKR specified it herself a couple of times when the troon community swooped in on her for not including trans women in her ideas and opinions. You're absolutely right that the community as a whole doesn't care about women and it upsets them that JRK is writing from her own perspective of the hurdles women have to face. She never said trans people didn't have their own problems but they have the childish view of "well if you think you have it bad, trans people..." like it's some sort of suffering competition. It absolutely boggles my mind that the community expects those like JKR to use her platform as their personal army instead of actually stepping up and writing their own book.
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Ah, I understand. Sorry if I leapt down your throat about that one - I think that one of my biggest pet peeves with the trans movement is the disgusting way they mandate everyone talk about women, as if we're a collection of disembodied reproductive organs ("women with uteruses", "people with vaginas" and so on).
The thing is that the (deeply) misogynistic trans movement demands that all women be their personal servants. The worst crime against transactivism is to exist as a disobedient woman. Men can take whatever stance they want and say whatever they want, and the trans community will give them so many "outs" they won't know what to do with them all, but if a woman makes even one tiny infraction, she'll be harassed, doxxed, threatened with rape and murder and worse. That's because trans activism is a men's rights movement at its core - it's all about getting men access to what they want, allowing men to dress and act how they want, allowing men to "identify" however they want... etc. They use women as props and servants, but they don't actually recognize or respect their humanity in any meaningful way and if they dare to step out of line... well, we've all seen what happens then.
As to the suffering competition... it's honestly hilarious to me whenever they pull that "oh trans people have it SO MUCH WORSE than any other group" BS when literally every statistic they use to prop up that statement is completely and without a doubt bogus. Actual statistics and, you know, common sense will tell you that trans people are among the least oppressed people in the world. They're less likely to be victims of hate crimes than almost any other marginalized group, they have massive social and institutional power, and so on. Ask yourself when was the last time, say, a black person got a white racist hauled in to the police for questioning because he used the n-word on Facebook. It would never happen, but a woman in Australia was just fined $10k for liking comments on Facebook that called a trans-identified man "male". That kind of power is exemplar of a privileged group, not a marginalized one.
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The fire rises
Well, maybe this was the plan from the start. Get some cheap bucks by releasing an unreadable mess and letting the troons and xeir allies buy it just to use it as bonfire fuel.
Well, maybe this was the plan from the start. Get some cheap bucks by releasing an unreadable mess and letting the troons and xeir allies buy it just to use it as bonfire fuel.
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Wow I mean, I'm sure making all that money off of all those book sales is really hurting JKR right now...
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You should have started with the first book
Seriously, allow me to give you my take as someone was indeed a fan of the books back then in the early 2000s. The books are fun. Despite they were targeted for kids, there were a few couple of elements that were enjoyable by adults. Will go back to this in a minute...
Another appeal of it is that HP became one of the first online fandoms during the early years of the internet and online communities. The HP group was, for example, one of the most active groups in usenet, probably as much as star trek or buffy. While the kids were around playing with plastic wands and scarves, adults were talking about the books there undisturbed. It was fun to takl about them and goof around.
Now, as I said above, the books had some minor appeal to adults too. I guess Rowling knew that adults would read her books too and included a few bits that she knew only we old people would get. The books had a lot of black and white morality for children, but all the gray was only possible understood if you were a bit older. Say, younger readers would only say "hey, it was bad Merope gave Tom Riddle a potion to make him love her! She is bad and her family are bad people too", but an adult would say "this is rape, she's a rapist, alas, it's possible she turned mad after her family abused her, maybe sexually too... maybe she is a victim."
The problem started with how the first four books were very obviously targeted for children with a more childish background, while, as someone previously mentioned, the following books were targeted to the same audience that got older. I think that Rowling wanted to become more "adult" but without being safe. Here also the expectations for the books became, I think, too much for her: after a character died in b4, the speculations of who would be the one to die in b5 were basically the main discussions in boards and groups. To talk about those kind of deaths in children's books, back then, was a novelty.
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My one friend was virtue signalling about this all last night. He's getting really annoying. When the BLM shit kicked off he was simping for poor oppwessed shemales of color. He's just gotten worse and worse the past 5-6 years. What happened to the cool guy I knew since 5th grade?
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I feel your pain. A lot of my friends have become like this too. Probably not as extreme to disown me, but they're definitely very patronising when I don't agree with them on how Trump is bad or BLM is virtuous.
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Same. I've always had a small circle of friends and most have gone woke. I don't think any would rat me out to the Stasi at this point, but they can really grind my gears. Oof. Yikes.
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He acquired a taste for futanari, probably.
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Aw yeah, that'll teach her! Destroying something that you purchased while the seller runs off with the money, what an impact that leaves. They should have stuck to the "JK Rowling is over party" tags on that hell bird site. Almost everyone already hates this woman. Go profit off the hatred and write your own book, that's the way to play it smart.
In the older days of gender surgery (80's / 90's) you had to pass several mental examinations and doctors would disqualify you if they suspected it was not what you needed. Nowadays, in most states and if you are paying for it yourself, all you need is a single exam and for the psychiatrist to give you a referral saying you understand the risks, etc. This has led to a lot of psychiatrist shopping and/or trans community word of mouth of "sympathetic to the cause" psychiatrists along with a quick tip list of what questions to say what answer with, i.e. "have you ever thought of killing yourself?" is always no, etc.
Ironically it's trying to get it covered under your insurance that leads to you needing more than just the one visit/referral but don't worry, the men in dresses are working hard to get even that changed too.
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The older people get the more pronounced their negative qualities become. Something about having less strength to hide who you really are.
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So I've read some chapters more now (I'm at chapter 14 now) and there wasn't a lot of problematic thing. But I'm wearing my intersectional glasses of course and found some passages that are triggerable.
'You are thinking,' said the small, spectacled elderly doctor, who was dwarfed by both his suit and his upright armchair, 'that I look like Gandhi.' Strike, who'd been thinking exactly that, was surprised into a laugh. The eighty-one-year-old doctor appeared to have shrunk inside his suit; the collar and cuffs of his shirt gaped and his ankles were skinny in their black silk socks. Tufts of white hair appeared both in and over his ears, and he wore horn - rimmed spectacles. The strongtes features in his genial brown face were the aquiline nose and dark eyes, which alone appeared to have escaped the ageing process, and were as bright and knowing as a wren's.
I'm problaly not up-to-date, but I think implying that a brown man looks exactly like an other brown man is a racism for people of the current year. But as if Gandhi is not enough, Rowling has to describe your average progressive leftist radical as well:
'My father', said Dr Gupta, nodding gently as he munched his fig roll, 'carried the guilt with him to his grave. He thought he should have been there to protect them all, or to have died alongside them. Now, Margot didn't like hearing the truth about partition,' said Dr Gupta. 'We all wanted independence, naturally, but the transition was handled very badly, very badly indeed. Nearly three million went missing. Rapes. Mutilation. Families torn asunder. Dreadful mistakes made. Appalling acts committed. Margot and I had an argument about it. A friendly argument, of course', he added, smiling. 'But Margot romanticised uprisings of people in distant lands. She didn't judge brown rapists and torturers by the same standards she would have applied to white men who drowned children for being the wrong religion. She believed, I think, like SUhrawardy, that "bloodshed and disorder are not necessarily evil in themselves, if resorted to for a noble cause".'
Even the Indian doctor's wife can't hide her transphobia and misogyny:
'... only the youngest girl remained childless, but she will have them', said Mrs Gupta, with a Joan-ish certainty. 'She'll never be happy without it'
Never be happy without children? How dare you!
(Yeah it's the butterworth guy)
'Which was a pity, a very great pity, because we had potential. The practice was popular with ladies, who usually prefer consulting members of their own sex. Margot and Janice were both well liked'
I won't quote such lines again, I just wanted to show for the last time that Rowling never uses the word 'gender' in the book.
The last one for today:
Again, Strike stood to help her, and was again shooed back into his chair. When she'd left, Strike asked, 'Why did you call the last patient "mysterious"? Because she was unregistered, or-?' 'Oh, you didn't know about that business?' said Gupta. 'No, no. Because there was much discussion afterwards as to whether or not she was actually a lady'. Smiling at Strike's look of surprise, he said, 'Brenner started it. He'd walked out past her and told the investigating officer that he'd thought, on the brief impression he had of her, that she was a man and was surprised afterwards to hear that she was female. Gloria said she was a thickset young lady, dark-gypsy-ish, was her word - not a very politically correct term, but that's what Gloria said. Nobody else saw her, of course, so we couldn't judge.
Oh shit! Troons get out your terf beaters and beat the shit out of this bigoted piece of shit!
'You are thinking,' said the small, spectacled elderly doctor, who was dwarfed by both his suit and his upright armchair, 'that I look like Gandhi.' Strike, who'd been thinking exactly that, was surprised into a laugh. The eighty-one-year-old doctor appeared to have shrunk inside his suit; the collar and cuffs of his shirt gaped and his ankles were skinny in their black silk socks. Tufts of white hair appeared both in and over his ears, and he wore horn - rimmed spectacles. The strongtes features in his genial brown face were the aquiline nose and dark eyes, which alone appeared to have escaped the ageing process, and were as bright and knowing as a wren's.
I'm problaly not up-to-date, but I think implying that a brown man looks exactly like an other brown man is a racism for people of the current year. But as if Gandhi is not enough, Rowling has to describe your average progressive leftist radical as well:
'My father', said Dr Gupta, nodding gently as he munched his fig roll, 'carried the guilt with him to his grave. He thought he should have been there to protect them all, or to have died alongside them. Now, Margot didn't like hearing the truth about partition,' said Dr Gupta. 'We all wanted independence, naturally, but the transition was handled very badly, very badly indeed. Nearly three million went missing. Rapes. Mutilation. Families torn asunder. Dreadful mistakes made. Appalling acts committed. Margot and I had an argument about it. A friendly argument, of course', he added, smiling. 'But Margot romanticised uprisings of people in distant lands. She didn't judge brown rapists and torturers by the same standards she would have applied to white men who drowned children for being the wrong religion. She believed, I think, like SUhrawardy, that "bloodshed and disorder are not necessarily evil in themselves, if resorted to for a noble cause".'
Even the Indian doctor's wife can't hide her transphobia and misogyny:
'... only the youngest girl remained childless, but she will have them', said Mrs Gupta, with a Joan-ish certainty. 'She'll never be happy without it'
Never be happy without children? How dare you!
'Which was a pity, a very great pity, because we had potential. The practice was popular with ladies, who usually prefer consulting members of their own sex. Margot and Janice were both well liked'
I won't quote such lines again, I just wanted to show for the last time that Rowling never uses the word 'gender' in the book.
The last one for today:
Again, Strike stood to help her, and was again shooed back into his chair. When she'd left, Strike asked, 'Why did you call the last patient "mysterious"? Because she was unregistered, or-?' 'Oh, you didn't know about that business?' said Gupta. 'No, no. Because there was much discussion afterwards as to whether or not she was actually a lady'. Smiling at Strike's look of surprise, he said, 'Brenner started it. He'd walked out past her and told the investigating officer that he'd thought, on the brief impression he had of her, that she was a man and was surprised afterwards to hear that she was female. Gloria said she was a thickset young lady, dark-gypsy-ish, was her word - not a very politically correct term, but that's what Gloria said. Nobody else saw her, of course, so we couldn't judge.
Oh shit! Troons get out your terf beaters and beat the shit out of this bigoted piece of shit!
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Give them a few more years and they'll rat you out in a heartbeat.
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It would be so great if plot twist, the serial killer, being a white cis hetero man, dresses up as a woman not to make his victims unwary but to get troons blamed for the murders. The one troon that actually reads the book gets lynched by the other troons for pointing out the book is awkshooally an intersectional wet dream because of this.
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These protests must be instigated by Those Who Cannot Be Named. Try asking around, how much do they pay for turning up?
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It's actually no conspiracy why. It's American influenced academics who brought the ideas here. Most young Swiss people at least understand English and hence all the woke shit from the Anglosphere flows directly in our country without a gate to keep it out. There are people who actually call black people "people of colour" without even trying to translate it into German. If the whole thing was started in the USA by the people who cannot be named, I don't really care. I just think that the rest of the world should be kept away from the Anglosphere and Israel.
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They’ll be waiting for something awful to happen - once it does, there will be an increasing mass of Objections and questions. The sheer scale of the legal liability is going to topple some people.
It did before. It doesn’t now. The medical profession is complicit in this and anyone who speaks out is hounded. It’s going to take some epic lawsuits to get the ball rolling and the sooner they arrive the better
One of the best bits of advice I’d give to anyone, man or woman, who starts a new relationship is ‘see what happens when you say no to them.’ Does she turn emotionally manipulative? Does he get violent? Run a fucking mile, the actions of the trans lobby are straight out of the domestic abuse playbook - it’s all the same stuff. Gaslighting, isolation, threats, suicide baiting and actua violence. Anyone who has had a violent or abusive partner can see this.
I would be extremely careful. They haven’t yet. It only takes one comment online to HR and you’re shafted.
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Same happened with my friend who jumped on the BoPo movement and started complaining about clothes prices being higher for bigger sizes even tho it's not the case in our country.
Woke people outside the USA are even more detached from reality because they hop on whatever movement is trending on Twitter rather than study their environment and discuss the real issues their countries are suffering from.
Woke people outside the USA are even more detached from reality because they hop on whatever movement is trending on Twitter rather than study their environment and discuss the real issues their countries are suffering from.