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I was browsing Slate, and came across yet another article by Mark Joseph Stern about the great circumcision controversy. Some poor toddler keeps pissing on his own leg because his foreskin is too tight, so naturally, the kids pediatrician and urologist recommend circumcision. This led to the toddler's ex wife freaking kidnapping the kid, hiding in a domestic violence shelter while evading the police, and filing a federal lawsuit at her ex.* The whole thing ended with her weeping in court while signing a consent form so her son can take a proper piss.

This isn't even the smegma of the foreskin tip of the iceberg. It turns out there's a whole fringe group of people who think circumcision is tantamount to foot-binding or FGM.* * It wasn't even the first time Stern wrote an article about this drama. There's batshit crazy websites, embarrassing statements from celebrities, hilarious webcomics, and all other sorts of silly shit.

I would've posted this earlier, but I've been pretty busy.

* Which was laughed out of court.

* * It's neither.
 
Circumcision is stupid
I can see why it could be done for medical reasons but it's a silly procedure of a more barbaric time period of human history. I don't believe it should be done to children without their consent when they don't even know why it happens.
 
I came across some of these guys and websites online before. I can see good arguments against circumcision on infants and I am against it myself but some of these people try to present it as if it is something really important when it isn't. The comparisons between circumcision and traditional female genital mutilation happening in certain countries are really ridiculous.
 
No one should circumcise anybody without their consent, except in a medical emergency.
What does that make vaccines? They perform those without consent, too.
Cut dicks are disgusting and anyone who has one should be killed.

(This thread will end well.)
As long as people keep the focus on the humor involved in the situation and not get mired in retard drama, it'll be fine.
Fact: not being circumcised will eventually lead to death by infection and permanent virginity.
Can you please stop shitposting?
 
What does that make vaccines? They perform those without consent, too.
Vaccines aren't done for religious/cosmetic reasons

There's a huge difference between doing a medical procedure that involves circumcision and the reason why the majority of people in the US do them. While you can cherry pick a story about someone who needed a circumcision for a medical reason, there have also been botched circumcisions that lead to death.

There are also negatives associated with circumcision like loss of feeling in the penis. There have also been reports you're 5 times more likely to suffer from erectile dysfunction. At no time in its 75 years has the American Academy of Pediatrics ever recommended infant circumcision. Compare this with the vast majority of doctors who recommend vaccinations.
 
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What does that make vaccines? They perform those without consent, too.

That's dumb. Your vaccines might not be a medical "emergency," but they are a high priority for your health and the health of those around you. It's imperative that people get themselves and their children vaccinated.

Circumcision is most often done for cosmetic or religious reasons. A person could easily chose to have it done as an adult, so there's no reason to do so before they can make that choice. In this particular case it sounds like the boy's problem could be a symptom of future problems for which circumcision is the best treatment, so good on the courts for getting him clipped.

I came across some of these guys and websites online before. I can see good arguments against circumcision on infants and I am against it myself but some of these people try to present it as if it is something really important when it isn't. The comparisons between circumcision and traditional female genital mutilation happening in certain countries are really ridiculous.

IIRC there are many types of FGM and some are more comparable to male circumcision than others.
 
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Vaccines aren't done for religious/cosmetic reasons
What does that make Sunday School nurseries and pierced ears?

There's a huge difference between doing a medical procedure that involves circumcision and the reason why the majority of people in the US do them. While you can cherry pick a story about someone who needed a circumcision for a medical reason, there have also been botched circumcisions that lead to death.

Your Stupid Site said:
This information has been reviewed by our panel of experts and other trusted advisors, however, it is not a substitute for professional medical, legal, or spiritual advice.

There are also negatives associated with circumcision like loss of feeling in the penis. There have also been reports you're 5 times more likely to suffer from erectile dysfunction.

You didn't read anything I linked, did you? This has long since been discredited as part of the nocebo effect, you tard.

Keep in mind, I already have a low opinion of your ideas since I caught you defending the Amazing Atheist. You really need to step up your game.
 
That's dumb. Your vaccines might not be a medical "emergency," but they are a high priority for your health and the health of those around you. It's imperative that people get themselves and their children vaccinated.

Circumcision is most often done for comedic or religious reasons. A person could easily chose to have it done as an adult, so there's no reason to do so before they can make that choice. In this particular case it sounds like the boy's problem could be a symptom of future problems for which circumcision is the best treatment, so good on the courts for getting him clipped.
comedic or religious reasons

Circumcision is some hilarious shit!
 
pierced ears?
If a person makes a decision as an adult I don't have a problem with it
You didn't read anything I linked, did you? This has long since been discredited as part of the nocebo effect, you tard.
This page has citations, such as
http://www.circinfo.org/USA_deaths.html
Which is a summary from a peer reviewed medical journal
Keep in mind, I already have a low opinion of your ideas since I caught you defending the Amazing Atheist. You really need to step up your game.
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Moved, wasn't lolcows.

I respectfully disagree. If people could keep the debate out of the thread, these people are hilarious.

Some of them are completely crazy, will make up claims, will cite unscientific reports as official medical reports and in the same breath deny scientific reports that don't support their claims. They also go batshit online and do stuff like harass new mothers on Twitter, post their Facebook updates online and do other questionable tactics.

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I respectfully disagree. If people could keep the debate out of the thread, these people are hilarious.

Some of them are completely crazy, will make up claims, will cite unscientific reports as official medical reports and in the same breath deny scientific reports that don't support their claims. They also go batshit online and do stuff like harass new mothers on Twitter, post their Facebook updates online and do other questionable tactics.

This is what I wanted to focus on, but the former M. Cuddlebug just had to come in and shit up my thread.

Thanks a lot, @Dr. Foreskin, you cunt.
 
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