Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

6: Lucasfilm in all its glory...
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Lol the fuck. This shit is copyrighted and trademarked up the wazoo, I can't believe it got permission to use Disney Star Wars' most precious IPs to attention whore AND badmouth one of their stars.
I remember when Terry Pratchett donated a million to Alzheimer's research and some fandom personalities decided to crowdfund and donate another million, he told them to take his characters off their campaign.
 
Lol the fuck. This shit is copyrighted and trademarked up the wazoo, I can't believe it got permission to use Disney Star Wars' most precious IPs to attention whore AND badmouth one of their stars.
I remember when Terry Pratchett donated a million to Alzheimer's research and some fandom personalities decided to crowdfund and donate another million, he told them to take his characters off their campaign.

The difference is, that person is using Baby Yoda to get through a message that Disney supports. So of course Disney won't sue. Disney would approve of it and would even put that on a shirt or on an official poster to sell to Trannies. You need to understand that nowadays, copyright only counts when you use a copyrighted character to say something the owners don't want. Like say, you take a character created and owned by a conservative Christian conglomerate and you make them say some pro-LGBT stuff that the owners of said character wouldn't support. But Disney is all for supporting LGBT movements, so they wouldn't bat an eyelash at someone using Baby Yoda to support Tranny rights. Maybe Walt Disney or George Lucas might have cared to sue, but Walt is naught but dust and bones, and Lucas lost control over his own franchise. So of course, nobody will care if you make an art piece that uses Star Wars characters to espouse LGBT or BLM values, because Disney supports that crap anyways and would happily put your art on a shirt they sell in their store for some quick bucks and pandering.
 
Lol the fuck. This shit is copyrighted and trademarked up the wazoo, I can't believe it got permission to use Disney Star Wars' most precious IPs to attention whore AND badmouth one of their stars.
I know they forced a couple to remove the Spider-Man stuff from the tomb of their child but Disney would never go after a tranny for using their IP.
 
killing him off halfway thru the season to showcase that theres multiple Mandolorians
This might actually be more understandable than a helmet drama and its something Filoni would try to push for since its already confirmed that two of Filoni's Mandalorian OCs will be coming back for this show.
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As @Adamska posted before, there's already a suspiciously insane amount of clickbait surrounding that Sabine character appearing in the Mandalorian and even talks of her becoming the new star and the most likely candidate to kidnap take baby Yeed since she knows Ahsoka and Space Aladdin which thanks to Filoni and Kennedy are the only successful jedi allowed since Leia and Luke are now disgraced failures forbidden from becoming proper jedi heroes. If true, then no wonder Pascal quit. Imagine being the star of Disney's only SW property that didn't shit the bed completely only for you to get completely sidelined just so Kennedy could get a mary sue MC and Filoni his OC star. And they'll treat this as a bold feminist move despite Kennedy being the same bipolar cunt who said women aren't ready to direct SW while flushing the history of the franchise down a toilet for her Force is Female crap because Luke was no longer allowed to be the protagonist.

I honestly suspected something like this would happen the minute Filoni brought back the fucking darksaber.
 
Only reason I think pedro would quit is either he's uncomfortable with the helmet + filming in the heat
I think it's an ego thing. He didn't want to wear the suit in the first season (except in the finale where he took off the helmet). They had at least 2 different actors who wore the suit, all he did was the voice over in post production.
He acted like a diva and he should know better. He can be replaced easily, like I said a few pages ago, they could get Sam Witwer and he would do it for free.
 
Breaking News:

Ron Cobb has passed away...
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For those of you who don't know, Ron alongside Ralph McQuarrie was a key concept artist for the OT, creating several of its most iconic aliens and ships, including the Ithorians and Duros.
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He was also the designer of the DeLorean time machine and the ships from the Alien films, among many other classic scifi vehicles and creatures.

Genndy Tartakovsky also honored him by naming the Ithorian jedi master from Clone Wars after him.
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If no one minds, I'd like to post some of his art in my next post if that's alright since I doubt anyone over at nu-Lucasfilm will give a shit.
Now cracks a noble heart. Good-night, sweet prince;
And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.


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Very sad to hear about Ron Cobb. He was also the concept artist and production design lead on Conan The Barbarian. He even designed both of the major swords used in that film, including Conan's beautiful and iconic Atlantean Sword...which sits next to John Boorman's Excalibur as one of the greatest weapons in cinema.
 
I think it's an ego thing. He didn't want to wear the suit in the first season (except in the finale where he took off the helmet). They had at least 2 different actors who wore the suit, all he did was the voice over in post production.
He acted like a diva and he should know better. He can be replaced easily, like I said a few pages ago, they could get Sam Witwer and he would do it for free.

Why the hell Disney hired Pedro Pascal to play a guy who keeps his helmet on at all times boggles the mind. Heck, if it were me, I'd have made him a smuggler character instead, since Pedro Pascal was most at home playing emotive, playful characters like Prince Oberyn. A Han Solo-style Smuggler who spends his days winning Sabacc games while banging chicks and flying around smuggling stuff under the authorities' noses would be more his level. I would have hired someone else like Clancy Brown to be the Mandalorian.

Clancy Brown already played Montross, Jango Fett's Mandalorian rival. So getting him to play another Mando wouldn't be much of a stretch-he has experience. He already played ruthless characters like Lex Luthor and Long Feng, as well as warrior-types like the Kurgan from Highlander. And he also played the penny-pinching Mr. Krabs from Spongebob. Mandalorians are ruthless warriors who are also penny-pinchers; they're killers who want to be paid well for the job. Clancy Brown would be a perfect fit, while Pedro Pascal being a smuggler type who hangs around cantinas banging chicks would fit in with the personality he was most at home with in Game of Thrones as Oberyn Martell.
 
wasn't it already neutered in CW when they made it a choice or some retarded shit and not based on behavior chips?
Other way around. In the old EU, the conditioning to serve the republic was why most of them willingly betrayed their Jedi commanders and was a tragedy. Those who resisted the orders and were hunted did so willingly, because they trusted and respected their commanders to the point they refused the conditioning. More pathos than the bullshit mind control chip shit Filoni made up to save his clone OCs from being flawed or willing to commit attrocities. How dare you try to have nuance.
As @Adamska posted before, there's already a suspiciously insane amount of clickbait surrounding that Sabine character appearing in the Mandalorian and even talks of her becoming the new star and the most likely candidate to kidnap take baby Yeed since she knows Ahsoka and Space Aladdin which thanks to Filoni and Kennedy are the only successful jedi allowed since Leia and Luke are now disgraced failures forbidden from becoming proper jedi heroes. If true, then no wonder Pascal quit. Imagine being the star of Disney's only SW property that didn't shit the bed completely only for you to get completely sidelined just so Kennedy could get a mary sue MC and Filoni his OC star. And they'll treat this as a bold feminist move despite Kennedy being the same bipolar cunt who said women aren't ready to direct SW while flushing the history of the franchise down a toilet for her Force is Female crap because Luke was no longer allowed to be the protagonist.

I honestly suspected something like this would happen the minute Filoni brought back the fucking darksaber.
The best part is that this move would probably tank the show despite the bleating from their paid shills or proxy sites or botnets like all the other times. The dynamic between the Mando and Baby Yoda was one of the draws, alongside the adventure and western feel it tried to go for. This sudden change between characters and more of the same shit that bombed in Rebels has a good chance of maybe denting Filoni's bullshit credibility.

I expected them to fuck it up, and while the method they used was unexpected, this final result was pretty close to what I was thinking they'd do. But even I didn't think they'd be so hideously stupid and hateful of success they'd just plain murk Pascal for this. Regardless, I expected Filoni fanfic bullshit ever since I knew that he was on the staff as a major force I predicted it'd turn into fanfiction with the same five characters.
 
What have been bothering me is Filoni and Faveru never explained why Mando and co. were such autistic fucks with the new "no taking off helmets even in front of other mandos" schick. Line or two of dialogue stating "We're Mando Clan Red Wolf Fucker" opposed to those scrub Mando clan "Grey Wolf Fucker" who show their faces to anybody including non-mandos could of helped with that.
 
What have been bothering me is Filoni and Faveru never explained why Mando and co. were such autistic fucks with the new "no taking off helmets even in front of other mandos" schick. Line or two of dialogue stating "We're Mando Clan Red Wolf Fucker" opposed to those scrub Mando clan "Grey Wolf Fucker" who show their faces to anybody including non-mandos could of helped with that.

Probably just to leech off the Fett cool factor in ESB, also "Muh mysterious".

It is super fucking stupid if you ask me. Also as I've mentioned before the whole "this is the way" garbage. Makes Mandos sound like a dumb cult or religion.
 
What have been bothering me is Filoni and Faveru never explained why Mando and co. were such autistic fucks with the new "no taking off helmets even in front of other mandos" schick. Line or two of dialogue stating "We're Mando Clan Red Wolf Fucker" opposed to those scrub Mando clan "Grey Wolf Fucker" who show their faces to anybody including non-mandos could of helped with that.
Honesty, it was probably Favrou's decision and from a producer's POV its brilliant. It capitalizes on the most marketable aspect the show has(prior to baby Yoda being a thing) which is Boba Fett's mask(nostalgia/member berries). It also means the "lead" of the show is always potentially changeable and keeps the cost of the show down. Which is why people criticizing Pedro for wanting his face seen more(if that happened) are wrong imo. Every actor/ress has a shelf life and it is always shorter than you expect it to be. You are supposed to cash out when you can and Pedro isn't there yet, hes still trying to cash out and increase his star power. He does that by showing his face. There is no in story or canon reason for it so there isn't anyway to explain it that people will accept that doesn't appear greedy/corporate shenanigans. It probably will never be explained due to the reasons not being derived in story.
 
What have been bothering me is Filoni and Faveru never explained why Mando and co. were such autistic fucks with the new "no taking off helmets even in front of other mandos" schick. Line or two of dialogue stating "We're Mando Clan Red Wolf Fucker" opposed to those scrub Mando clan "Grey Wolf Fucker" who show their faces to anybody including non-mandos could of helped with that.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's "because mandalorians look cool and badass with their helmet on", which is a good enough reason to me.
 
What have been bothering me is Filoni and Faveru never explained why Mando and co. were such autistic fucks with the new "no taking off helmets even in front of other mandos" schick. Line or two of dialogue stating "We're Mando Clan Red Wolf Fucker" opposed to those scrub Mando clan "Grey Wolf Fucker" who show their faces to anybody including non-mandos could of helped with that.

Probably just to leech off the Fett cool factor in ESB, also "Muh mysterious".

It is super fucking stupid if you ask me. Also as I've mentioned before the whole "this is the way" garbage. Makes Mandos sound like a dumb cult or religion.

As much of a primadonna Pedro Pascal has been, I'm tempted to side with him. The reason why I'm not so big on Mandos having such rules as keeping the helmet on all the time is because the Mandos I fell in love with were the KOTOR ones. There, they were a warrior race that had traits that were different from other warrior races in fantasy and science fiction because they were utterly pragmatic. They wore beskar because it afforded advantages to them, but they'll be more than happy to fight without it if it's impractical, and they had no problems showing their faces 90% of the time. If they found armor made of some other material that was more protective or useful than beskar, they'd dump beskar in a heartbeat in exchange for this new armor material.

Many other warrior races have impractical or downright idiotic rules now and then that prevent them from taking full advantage of their potential, but what set the Mandalorians apart from say, the Klingons, is that they were pragmatic. They were willing to blast a city to cinders to take down a target, their weapons and armor were designed to be superior compared to everyone else's so they can attain victory in battle, and they didn't whine about morals or ethics, instead preferring pragmatic approaches to victory, ie. "Victory in battle is my justification." (Canderous Ordo) They were also willing to do away with parts of their culture if it wasn't practical or if they couldn't engage in it. At the end of the Mandalorian Wars, Revan took away all their armor and Basilisk War Droids, and burned it in front of them before scattering them to the far reaches of the galaxy. So during the following Jedi Civil War, they fought as mercs wearing whatever armor they had available and having no reluctance to show their faces in public.

The only time I've seen Mandalorians enforce the whole "I have to wear the helmet at all times" was when Canderous was Mandalore, and he was working with a bunch of weirdos who somehow managed to get a hold of his master's ship. So of course, being the leader of the Mandalorians, he has to keep his identity a secret from people he doesn't trust and he has to keep the helmet on. But everyone else doesn't have to follow that rule-he just imposes it upon himself, for very good reasons.

Forcing Mandos to have rules that attach them to their beskar armor as if it's some kind of holy relic kinda takes the fun out of the Mandalorians, in my view. It makes them more like any other warrior race that has impractical rules in combat. Mandalorians should be pragmatic, and if Din Djarin has to sneak around town without alerting everyone that he's Mandalorian, then him walking around in civilian clothes without a mask on is more pragmatic.

It's also why I wasn't a big fan of the Duchess arc in Rebels. So the Imperials developed a new weapon based on Sabine's tech designs that can fry people in beskar, big fucking deal. Go kill some Stormtroopers, steal their armor, and put your own war paint on it to symbolize that it's yours, and go kill the sons of bitches. Or better yet, keep the stolen Stormtrooper armor clean and infiltrate the enemy ranks, and kill the Imperial commander Tiber Saxon. The Mandalorians whining about Sabine having created a weapon that kills those who wear beskar rings hollow when others raised on the Mandalorian way of life have worn other armors like durasteel (Jango Fett) or duraplast (Clone Commandos).

In my point of view, the Mandalorians' fetish for beskar gets in the way of them being an utterly pragmatic warrior race who only wore beskar in the first place because it gave good protection against blasters and lightsabers. And the rule for keeping their helmets on at all times makes no fucking sense, whatsoever, because not only do we see other Mandalorians violate that all the time, from the True Mandalorians to the Death Watch, but traveling incognito without a helmet is much easier without a helmet that screams "I'M PART OF AN ANCIENT WARRIOR CULT THAT KILLS PEOPLE" to everyone.

Other way around. In the old EU, the conditioning to serve the republic was why most of them willingly betrayed their Jedi commanders and was a tragedy. Those who resisted the orders and were hunted did so willingly, because they trusted and respected their commanders to the point they refused the conditioning. More pathos than the bullshit mind control chip shit Filoni made up to save his clone OCs from being flawed or willing to commit attrocities. How dare you try to have nuance.

The best part is that this move would probably tank the show despite the bleating from their paid shills or proxy sites or botnets like all the other times. The dynamic between the Mando and Baby Yoda was one of the draws, alongside the adventure and western feel it tried to go for. This sudden change between characters and more of the same shit that bombed in Rebels has a good chance of maybe denting Filoni's bullshit credibility.

I expected them to fuck it up, and while the method they used was unexpected, this final result was pretty close to what I was thinking they'd do. But even I didn't think they'd be so hideously stupid and hateful of success they'd just plain murk Pascal for this. Regardless, I expected Filoni fanfic bullshit ever since I knew that he was on the staff as a major force I predicted it'd turn into fanfiction with the same five characters.

In the old canon, Order 66 was a real tragedy because the clones actually cared about their Jedi friends and yet, they were conditioned to be obedient to the Republic thanks to the Kaminoans, Jango Fett, and the Cul'Vay'Dar. So it's basically nature vs. nurture; as a human being, you have problems turning on someone you knew and respected, hunting them down as if they were animals, but as a patriot, you have to do your duty to the state and eliminate anyone accused of treason by your supreme executive. It really put the definition of "good soldier" up for grabs: the minority of clones who stood up for their Jedi friends and refused to attack their Jedi commanders saw the "good soldier" concept in a moral aspect, the majority who turned on their Jedi commanders and ruthlessly killed them and any other Jedi saw the concept of a "good soldier" in a literal aspect, as if being a good soldier meant that you always followed orders, no matter what they were. The classic Battlefront 2 game from 2005 really showed this in a good light; some Jedi managed to make a good impression on the troops, and the men themselves had doubts about their orders. They even wished that some Jedi died quickly, because those Jedi saved their butts and "they deserved that much." And in other works where clones refused the order, it showed how no amount of conditioning can stop some men from following their moral compass and doing the right thing, even if it meant getting branded as traitors to the state they were raised to be loyal to.

Instead, the new canon makes Order 66 less of a choice. It cheapens the tragedy because it's no longer a moral quandary, but rather, something brought about by inhibitor chips. Not only that, but Rex already knew about it before it went down, so logically, he would have told all clone commanders about it, and then the commanders would tell their men about it, that they all had chips in their brains that rob them of free will. So that would logically have ended with all clones having a weird scar across their heads and them telling Sidious to bite their plastoid-encased butts when he issues the order.

Filoni still has TCW to fall back on every time he gets called out on being shit. Rebels was less than adequate, Resistance was a joke, and yet, despite failing two out of three Star Wars shows, Filoni is still seen as a savior for Star Wars due to TCW. Face it, TCW's fans will never betray the man, and he will always have a large following among SW fans because many SW fans who are grown-ups now were kids back when TCW was airing, and they fell in love with that stuff instead of the old EU and movies that most of us grew up with.
 
I stumbled on an old website that catalogs a shitload unused/deleted scenes and stuff from the movies:
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I remember someone in this thread god-knows-how many pages ago brought some of this up so whoever it was, you've been vindicated, probably.
 
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I stumbled on an old website that catalogs a shitload unused/deleted scenes and stuff from the movies:
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I remember someone in this thread god-knows-how many pages ago brought some of this up so whoever it was, you've been vindicated, probably.

I'm not so sure how canon this stuff is. Or how much of it Lucas ran with. Must be old crap that he later discarded, especially with the Force. I remember how in EPVI, Leia's Force-sensitivity was an important plot point because she AND ONLY SHE could succeed Luke as the bearer of the Jedi legacy in the odd case he died. Otherwise Luke wouldn't stop with just teaching Leia, he'd teach Han, Chewie, Lando, Wedge, and every other idiot who's part of their close circle. So obviously ideas like "everyone can use the Force" got discarded by the time EPVI rolled into theaters.
 
I'm not so sure how canon this stuff is. Or how much of it Lucas ran with. Must be old crap that he later discarded, especially with the Force. I remember how in EPVI, Leia's Force-sensitivity was an important plot point because she AND ONLY SHE could succeed Luke as the bearer of the Jedi legacy in the odd case he died. Otherwise Luke wouldn't stop with just teaching Leia, he'd teach Han, Chewie, Lando, Wedge, and every other idiot who's part of their close circle. So obviously ideas like "everyone can use the Force" got discarded by the time EPVI rolled into theaters.

Says right on the image, "Note: Many of the ideas here are conceptual only and should not be considered canon".
 
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