2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Texas official and 3 others indicted on 134 felonies in mail-in ballot fraud case
https://abc13.com/texas-vote-by-mai...lot-gregg-county-commission-arrested/6544331/ (https://archive.vn/Vtqei)

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According to Paxton's office, Brown and others targeted "young, able-bodied" voters to cast ballots by mail by fraudulently claiming the voters were "disabled," in most cases without the voters' knowledge or consent. The indictments claim this was done to increase the pool of ballots needed to swing the race in Brown's favor.
 
What was strange about the Vote By Mail push was Trump was always against it-- though his most loyal voters remember a pre-internet age where knowing how to mail something was a fact of life. Meanwhile Biden's milennial voters have probably gotten away with failing to learn how to mail stuff. Personally I think there should be a deadline to mail-ins, and that deadline be a 5 working days before the election. Once you get into the woods of counting new-found ballots several days after the election, trust in the outcome is unbelievably damaged.
I don't think either side will concede on the night of the results. Even if its a landslide one way or the other. The losing side is gonna insist those mail-ins are gonna flip half a dozen states for them, and state officials are so partisan they'll know on November 5th they've just got to squeeze, say, 20k more D votes out of a conurbation to get their win.

It's totally fucked. I don't understand how anybody can find the DNC a credible voice on electoral innovation / reform when their Iowa Caucus this year was such an unmitigated disaster on the organisational side.
 
‘Something’s in the water’: Florida Republicans see surge in voter registration
Democrats say they feel pressure from Joe Biden’s campaign to refrain from door-to-door canvassing, which is hindering their efforts.

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In the absence of such efforts, a concerted drive by President Donald Trump’s Florida campaign to register voters has helped cut the state’s long-standing Democratic advantage to fewer than 185,000 voters, a gap of just 1.3 percentage points, according to data from the Florida Division of Elections released this week.

 
What Will It Take to Vote in Milwaukee?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/24/us/politics/milwaukee-voters-2020-black-latino.html (https://archive.vn/Nrs5l)

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The pandemic is making voting more complicated, with higher stakes. But, activists note, it’s just one more thing to worry about on top of strict identification and mail-in ballot laws that can disproportionately make it difficult for eligible low-income voters, and Black and Latino voters, to cast their ballots.

The amount of excuses this article drags out is staggering.
 
What Will It Take to Vote in Milwaukee?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/24/us/politics/milwaukee-voters-2020-black-latino.html (https://archive.vn/Nrs5l)

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The amount of excuses this article drags out is staggering.

I never understood this Voter ID argument.

If black people can't have IDs, why not work on that issue? That would fix both issues, but the Democrats never think of it.

I mean, publicly. I know unspokenly the reason is to make fraud easier.
 
What Will It Take to Vote in Milwaukee?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/24/us/politics/milwaukee-voters-2020-black-latino.html (https://archive.vn/Nrs5l)

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The amount of excuses this article drags out is staggering.

If there is an article about complaining about voting in a specific state, it means they took behind the curtain and saw something they didn't like.

With the mail voting to in person flip flop and this, Democrats might've made a huge tactical error that may cost them razor thin margin states.
 
What was strange about the Vote By Mail push was Trump was always against it-- though his most loyal voters remember a pre-internet age where knowing how to mail something was a fact of life. Meanwhile Biden's milennial voters have probably gotten away with failing to learn how to mail stuff. Personally I think there should be a deadline to mail-ins, and that deadline be a 5 working days before the election. Once you get into the woods of counting new-found ballots several days after the election, trust in the outcome is unbelievably damaged.
I don't think either side will concede on the night of the results. Even if its a landslide one way or the other. The losing side is gonna insist those mail-ins are gonna flip half a dozen states for them, and state officials are so partisan they'll know on November 5th they've just got to squeeze, say, 20k more D votes out of a conurbation to get their win.

It's totally fucked. I don't understand how anybody can find the DNC a credible voice on electoral innovation / reform when their Iowa Caucus this year was such an unmitigated disaster on the organisational side.
Trump mailed in voted during the Florida primaries this year.
 
I never understood this Voter ID argument.

If black people can't have IDs, why not work on that issue? That would fix both issues, but the Democrats never think of it.

I mean, publicly. I know unspokenly the reason is to make fraud easier.
Because the Democrats don't want to solve problems.
 
Trump mailed in voted during the Florida primaries this year.
Very true, but you'll notice he screencapped and explained the procedure, too. This procedure has been in place for decades, and was divorced from his efforts in July and August.
What Trump's message has consistently been, is voting in person is the superior method, and every vote that can be done at a voting booth should be done that way.
Nobody is against traced mail-in voting. The kind which we've had for years and the kind that Trump used can be verified and checked for legitimacy. The Democrats, meanwhile, wanted a ballot posted to the front door of every registered voter in America, and due to coronavirus, were hoping the mass mailing of millions of unverified ballots could happen. What's bizarre though, is this mass mailing didn't get off the ground and the Democrats continued an appeal to their own voters to mail them in. As far as I'm aware, requesting a mailed ballot takes you off the in-person list, and the Democrats until recently were pushing for millions of their own voters to request mailed ballots despite knowing nothing about what it takes to prove your identity mail stuff back. Its hardly rocket science but the extra steps are de-motivating.
 
James' material usually confirms what we're all thinking. But it doesn't make a splash in the culture.
Not unless Trump starts actively promoting him.

As for "Voter ID", that shit's been made borderline Sisyphean due to the sheer amount of screeching against it, but I remember @It's HK-47 making a post where he describes some upcoming postal service technology built to track and identify specific ballots anyway, going around the problem.
 
You can only crush someone if you have great power over them. If they do win in November and try shame, it will fail, because the Democrats have embraced make-believe work and pointless bureaucracy. A pissed off mechanic can do more damage to you by fucking up your car in subtle ways than a PMS-ing blogger declaring you the new twitter satan, and a strong construction worker will snap the neck of a soylent journalist and hide the body if it gets to that point. Not to mention, shaming half the population isn't really possible unless you have evidence of something truly horrific.

If you want some fun history, Queen Boudica attempted revenge via genocide on the Romans. Guess why the Iceni aren't a household name.
72 hours until Biden declares that it was Trump pushing for mail-in voting.

After Biden declared with a straight face that Trump wanted to defund the police; I put nothing past him.
"It's like I always say, it's not lying if.. if you.., you know, if you know the thing. Where's my milk and cookies, and a little girl to tuck me in?"
 
I never understood this Voter ID argument.

If black people can't have IDs, why not work on that issue? That would fix both issues, but the Democrats never think of it.

I mean, publicly. I know unspokenly the reason is to make fraud easier.

There's a historical reason, kind of.

Decades ago, before urbanization and computerization really took off, it was very possible to live out your entire life in rural areas without ever coming in contact with the federal or state governments. You could be born in a farmhouse, delivered by a midwife, live and trade with your local community using cash, and eventually die, all without needing ID for any of it.

The only official records you'd have would be things required to be publicly announced, like marriages or arrests. Your local government could recognize you by face or by relationship to a known person. Birth and death certificates aren't even mandatory, unless you do either one in front of a licensed doctor. In many states, you can still prove your identity by the testimony of people who know you, or even the genealogical record in the front of a family Bible.

Eventually government got too big, money went electronic, and businesses starting requiring IDs for both reason. You can still do all of the above, however somewhere around the 70s that became the lifestyle of the very poor, or the indigent. Everyone else moved on into the shiny happy electronic future.

So who are the people who wouldn't have ID? The poor, theoretically. Even though most states will waive fees and give someone an ID for free if they claim poverty.

And who are disproportionately poor? Blacks, Hispanics, etc. Even though, if you go ask those populations, all of them have regular ID just to live in today's society, and they'll be confused as to why anyone thinks they have a hard time getting ID.

(confused black people start around 1:30)

TL;DR It's an argument solely relying on stereotypes of minorities, based on class stereotypes from 50+ years ago.

So yeah, it's just an excuse to keep voting insecure and allow Democratic fraud.
 
Just anecdotal and probably not unexpected, but speaking with some fellows of Hispanic descent (Nicaraguan and Mexican) the Lagoa pick doesn't move the dial much. Of course, the implication behind what they were saying was that she's Cuban, so it doesn't exactly reflect greater the Hispanic population. Still, interesting to think about. I still wouldn't buy into catholic retards like Jack Posobiec who are all in for ACB, because they're assuming democrats will attack her on religion. family values, etc, rather than the legitimate issues she has with her judicial record. If they decide to bring up her corporatism or her ruling re Jacobsen and lockdowns two weeks ago, then their plans fall apart.
That's what concerns me. I've been saying this several times before, but we cannot underestimate the DNC's competence no matter how many mistakes they might make. They are only starting to backpedal from voting by mail because they are seeing that they are being investigated and called out for attempts at voting fraud and that a conservative Supreme Court justice without concerning records like Barbara Lagoa would destroy their plans when brought to the Supreme Court.

Unfortunately, it looks like we are getting Barrett and there is no doubt the Democrats have done their homework to target her. I've watched several interviews on One American News Network (OANN) and it was mind blowing that with all of their hyping for Barrett that none of them brought up any concerns that she might be attacked on her record. They are making the same mistakes the Democratic establishment often makes, which is to underestimate their enemy. If Trump and the Republicans aren't prepared to defend her record - and I'm worried they're not - we're going to be boxed out of far more than just a non-far left Supreme Court nomination and an election. He can't afford another backlash like the coronavirus this close to the election. Even if she does get through, Barnes has suggested she will be another Roberts so can we really trust her to rule against voting fraud when the contested election gets to the Supreme Court?

I guess all we can do is wait until Saturday at 5 PM EST and hope that Trump knows something we don't. It will be hell to get Barrett through the RINOs and no, Romney, Murkowski, and Gardner didn't say they would vote to confirm, only that it would be on qualification.
 
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Very true, but you'll notice he screencapped and explained the procedure, too. This procedure has been in place for decades, and was divorced from his efforts in July and August.
What Trump's message has consistently been, is voting in person is the superior method, and every vote that can be done at a voting booth should be done that way.
Nobody is against traced mail-in voting. The kind which we've had for years and the kind that Trump used can be verified and checked for legitimacy. The Democrats, meanwhile, wanted a ballot posted to the front door of every registered voter in America, and due to coronavirus, were hoping the mass mailing of millions of unverified ballots could happen. What's bizarre though, is this mass mailing didn't get off the ground and the Democrats continued an appeal to their own voters to mail them in. As far as I'm aware, requesting a mailed ballot takes you off the in-person list, and the Democrats until recently were pushing for millions of their own voters to request mailed ballots despite knowing nothing about what it takes to prove your identity mail stuff back. Its hardly rocket science but the extra steps are de-motivating.
yeah Florida absentee isn't like, they just mail shit at random to everybody, you have to register with Local County Board or whatever, then from there you get mailed them until you say otherwise
t- absentee since 2000
 
I have no idea what Billy affiliation is. IIRC, he was pro Obama in 2008. I'm doubtful he's a Trump supporter. He's pretty insane though.

E: AFAIK, there are no 90s gen x alt rockers who are Pro Trump. Maybe Kid Rock if you extend this to nu-metal.

He did defend him in an interview but later clarified he hasn't voted since Clinton in 1992.
 
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