Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

It's an unworkable cross between a Ren Faire and a LARP. LARPs are cool too, and there are still enough Star Wars fans to hold a 3 or 4-day, 200-person LARP all year round and ask for $1000 per day per person. No normie stuff, no opting out, no mani-pedis, food as sustenance, sleep in a cot, post guards. Obviously, this will never be profitable unless people are required to put in French gameshow-equivalent effort and assume personal responsibility (think of all the tard wrangling that needs to be done), not to mention make the hotel profitable. But the format (not the Disnay format, the pure LARP) itself has legs.

I can't wait for the hotel to open. This will be much better than Fyre Festival or an extra hour in the ball pit. The blue m;lk will flow.

This is autistic and wrong. Imagine you see a fluffy kitten video and the ending slide is "this kitten had bone cancer and died the following day". Anticipation of the unknown is half the fun; therefore, it's normal to be disappointed by shitty storylines and complete dumpster fires like Disney Wars -- it means there will "never" be a better commercial sequel to what you did like within your lifetime (and noncommercial content is shaped by "canon", too). I can't look forward to more stories about Dev Sibwarra because he's fucking dead.

They should just delete the comment section.

The amount of money people spend on larping astounds me. And here I thought I was an obsessive freak for spending thousands of dollars on merchandise.

The hotel was a vanity project from the start. Maybe if Lucas was onboard, he could have found a way for it to work, but at this point, it's the equivalent of putting lipstick and perfume on a pig. It looks funny, but it won't attract any real following.

People hate Legacy of the Force for the very same reason they hate the Sequels: both tried to take a happy ending with characters that people have invested in for decades, and turned it around to show how it was all a lie, all to support a conflict nobody cares about. Both works were a bad attempt to create a story that was morally ambiguous, and their attempts fell flat as the execution of it just pissed off fans on both ends. LOTF pissed off EU fans who have followed the adventures of Mara Jade, Jaina Solo, and Jacen Solo for decades, and the Sequels pissed off the normies whose memories of Star Wars ended with Episode VI.

In LOTF, Han's son Jacen Solo turns to the Dark Side for stupid reasons, kills Luke's wife Mara Jade, who was a major character people got invested in, and Jacen got killed as well, pissing off the large fanbase who wanted him to continue as a good Jedi. Han's daughter Jaina, a powerful Jedi in her own right, was made into Boba Fett's punching bag. You know, the guy who got stabbed in the back by a blind man? Somehow he manages to make Darth Vader's grand-daughter his bitch, because one of the authors has a boner for Mandalorians. The Sequels did the same thing, except there's no Fetts and Han doesn't have a daughter. They instead killed Ben Solo after he turned to evil, but they also killed off Han, Luke, and Leia as well. All after they made Luke into a pathetic, miserable failure, and they made Han into a deadbeat dad who deserted his wife.

Maybe if these stories were focused on conflicts that were meaningful, it could have worked. Heck, I wouldn't have minded half the OT cast dying to say, the Yuuzhan Vong, because laying down your life defending your galaxy from an unknowable, unfathomable evil that kept even the Emperor from the Original Trilogy awake at night is in character for these OT heroes. The Red Wedding from ASOIAF managed to make it work because the conflict of the War of the Five Kings was a meaningful battle between factions that all had their own reasons to covet the throne. So when well-loved characters started dying off like flies, it offered a substantial commentary on the world of ASOIAF and how ruthless it was, and that massacre became a key turning point in the war.

Instead, the conflicts in LOTF and the ST were so meaningless that they won't even be remembered. The First Order War was just a shitty knockoff of the Galactic Civil War, and the Final Order was so forgettable since they didn't even last past one film. Meanwhile, LOTF's Second Galactic Civil War that was started by a Corellian thug and inflamed by an out of character Jedi was so meaningless that it accomplished nothing and both sides just walked away as if they just had a boo-boo in their shoulder. For well-known characters to be humiliated and killed in such nonsensical, forgettable conflicts, just so some authors and scriptwriters can write something edgy, is the very definition of bullshit writing.

To be fair, LOTF is better than the Sequels, but that's like saying getting castrated isn't as bad as getting crippled for life, and the effect both works had on the audience was making them apathetic to the franchise. LOTF made many EU fans quit and decide to ignore it altogether in favor of other stories like the KOTOR games or the Legacy comics, stories that can go for the morally ambiguous route and experiment because they didn't involve main characters that people have loved for decades, but instead created new, interesting characters that were well-suited for the kinds of stories they made. Meanwhile, the normies who loved the OT and argued over the Prequels became united in their hate for the Sequel Trilogy. No matter whether or not you thought the Prequels were stupid, one thing everyone can agree on was that the Sequels were even stupider. Ever since TLJ, the respect that the SW film franchise commanded has been falling down a very steep slope, and soon, Disney will eventually realize all the money they spent buying Star Wars wasn't worth it.

But they can't delete the comment section. They need a place where sycophants can praise them. Even if nobody is commenting, they'll keep the comments sections and have bots/shills comment positively so as to keep good PR, even though interest is at an all-time low.
 
The amount of money people spend on larping astounds me.

My guy, if you think a costume is bad, you should see what the tactic-lol retards spend to larp that they're operators. I've seen guys put real $1400 dollar optics on fucking airsoft rifles while wearing $200 dollar military fatigue bottoms, $200 shirt, and a $500 plate carrier. Just to play pretend soldier, and that is only the tip of the iceberg. Shit goes up exponentially when you do it with real guns and gear.
 
My guy, if you think a costume is bad, you should see what the tactic-lol retards spend to larp that they're operators. I've seen guys put real $1400 dollar optics on fucking airsoft rifles while wearing $200 dollar military fatigue bottoms, $200 shirt, and a $500 plate carrier. Just to play pretend soldier, and that is only the tip of the iceberg. Shit goes up exponentially when you do it with real guns and gear.

I can understand people on the shooting range splurging on a gun, but with that kind of expenses, larpers come off as man-children at this point. There's better use for money other than pretending to be a real-life Mandalorian/Jedi/Sith. That's what computers and video games are for. I can understand buying/making costumes you use for Halloween, birthday parties, or conventions, but that kind of high-cost larping takes nerd dorkiness to a whole new level.
 
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I can understand people on the shooting range splurging on a gun, but with that kind of expenses, larpers come off as man-children at this point. There's better use for money other than pretending to be a real-life Mandalorian/Jedi/Sith. That's what computers and video games are for. I can understand buying/making costumes you use for Halloween, birthday parties, or conventions, but that kind of high-cost larping takes nerd dorkiness to a whole new level.

You want a laugh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgL7dYbvp8Q

This was an actual thing four years ago.

EDIT: Article with pictures https://hiconsumption.com/mandalorian-boba-fett-ballistic-armor-by-ar500-armor/

From a practical point of view, I'd hate to wear that fucking thing in combat.
 
You want a laugh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgL7dYbvp8Q

This was an actual thing four years ago.

EDIT: Article with pictures https://hiconsumption.com/mandalorian-boba-fett-ballistic-armor-by-ar500-armor/

From a practical point of view, I'd hate to wear that fucking thing in combat.

Looks impressive, but there's enough gaps in the armor that a more patient enemy can shoot through. This stuff will only work against gangsters who spray-and-pray. In an actual combat zone where the enemy has snipers, this armor won't protect you at all from a sniper aiming at the gaps. It's more practical for cops to wear than for actual soldiers.
 
That has the same coverage as regular armor, if that was worn up like a regular plate carrier should be. No one in a firefight is going to stop to patiently take the time to shoot some dickwad in the throat or shoulder though they do have delt armor you can put on that has more coverage than the alol delt armor of that cosplay shit.

This stuff wont work at all unless you carry everything, and I do mean everything else you need on your belt and that is going to get super awkward and unfun fast. Cops would have no use for this cosplay shit for the same reason soldiers wouldn't, not to mention most cops nowadays already have a concealed vest under their uniform shirt and I deffo wouldn't wear anything made by AR-500 as a primary piece of armor regardless of if it was over my soft vest or not.
 
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That has the same coverage as regular armor, if that was worn up like a regular plate carrier should be. No one in a firefight is going to stop to patiently take the time to shoot some dickwad in the throat or shoulder though they do have delt armor you can put on that has more coverage than the alol delt armor of that cosplay shit.

This stuff wont work at all unless you carry everything, and I do mean everything else you need on your belt and that is going to get super awkward and unfun fast. Cops would have no use for this cosplay shit for the same reason soldiers wouldn't, not to mention most cops nowadays already have a concealed vest under their uniform shirt and I deffo wouldn't wear anything made by AR-500 as a primary piece of armor regardless of if it was over my soft vest or not.
The greatest irony is that body armor in the Star Wars universe worked better as a spacesuit than actual armor.
 
That has the same coverage as regular armor, if that was worn up like a regular plate carrier should be. No one in a firefight is going to stop to patiently take the time to shoot some dickwad in the throat or shoulder though they do have delt armor you can put on that has more coverage than the alol delt armor of that cosplay shit.

This stuff wont work at all unless you carry everything, and I do mean everything else you need on your belt and that is going to get super awkward and unfun fast. Cops would have no use for this cosplay shit for the same reason soldiers wouldn't, not to mention most cops nowadays already have a concealed vest under their uniform shirt and I deffo wouldn't wear anything made by AR-500 as a primary piece of armor regardless of if it was over my soft vest or not.

Depends. In a firefight, there could be enemy snipers behind the regular troops. The enemy has the regular soldiers firing AK-47s to distract you, while some bushwhacker behind the enemy soldiers or even far from the battlefield is aiming at the gaps of your armor.

It can work for SWAT teams who might end up fighting yahoo goons who spray and pray, but against dedicated enemy units in war or even guerilla forces, that armor's just asking for trouble. Not to mention it probably slows down your movement, which makes you easier to kill no matter how much armor you wear.

The greatest irony is that body armor in the Star Wars universe worked better as a spacesuit than actual armor.

Again, it depends. Stormtrooper body armor can absorb the blast from a blaster and they just get knocked out sometimes, but to be fair, a blaster has more power than a .50 caliber round:

So anything that can withstand that while keeping the man inside even barely alive is practically miraculous on its own.

That, and different body armors in Star Wars (Clone Commando Armor, Sith Trooper Armor) can withstand several blaster shots for a while before the man inside even gets knocked back, let alone killed.

It also only covering your upper body. Ok if you're in cover, I guess.

Which won't be enough in a firefight if your enemies can aim well or have guys behind the front lines with sniper rifles. And since you can be flushed from cover with grenades or other weapons, you'll have to get out into battle.

A lot of people compare this armor to Mandalorian armor, and the big problem in my mind is, there's way too many gaps in both this armor and Mando armor. It's not like Neo-Crusader armor which is a sealed, armored suit:

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Instead, it's a suit that's more like the more recent Mandalorian armor, the one that has way too many gaps in it:

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And yet people act like the more modern Mando armor is enough to make you nearly invincible, not only to blaster fire, but also the lightsaber of a Jedi. Which is hilarious, considering that there's so many places for a blaster bolt or a lightsaber to punch through that would totally incapacitate or even kill the warrior, whether or not the armor material is blaster-proof or lightsaber-proof. So it's kinda funny to me when a storyteller talks about how cool the armor is because it can block lightsabers, whereas someone like me who's seen enough Medieval stuff to know that swordsmen love taking advantage of the gaps in enemy armor, and I'm just thinking "those bathrobe-wearing, pseudo-pacifist yahoos will just aim for your legs, arms, or neck. Then it's game over for you, and your armor might as well be made out of toilet paper as far as they're concerned."


I mean, the Neo-Crusader suit protects the warrior better, especially in crucial areas like the neck. Meanwhile, with the more modern suit similar to the one worn by Boba Fett, well, see for yourself:

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A single neck shot from a common Stormtrooper downed a mighty Mandalorian warrior. In terms of logistics, that's bad. An average enemy soldier wearing plastic armor who didn't have as much training or expensive armor as the Mandalorians do managed to kill a Mandalorian Supercommando armored with beskar, with a single shot. You wouldn't have gotten that with the Neo-Crusader variant, where the helmet covered the head AND the neck. And the sad thing is, the Galac-Tac armor is just as vulnerable, even to guys not using armor-piercing rounds.

This is why HEMA instructors usually criticize gaps in armor suits that they review, and why I was adamant that the Galac-Tac armor is better off being used by cops who fight gangsters that rely on "spray and pray" tactics instead of being used by soldiers who could be shot by enemy marksmen operating from behind cover. Because there's way too many convenient spots for a gunman to shoot at that would incapacitate or even kill the wearer, even if the body armor can withstand fire or the enemy isn't using armor-piercing rounds. And of course, armor like that will slow you down and make you an easier target.

Anyway, that was just me having a brain fart about armor.

On a post-script note, I still can't believe Boba Fett wound up leading the Mandalorians in Legends. Dude was practically taking the Empire's money and working with them a lot while the Mandalorians were enslaved by the Empire. I'm surprised that he didn't get fragged faster than you can say "Vode An" considering that he was the Mandalorian equivalent of Vidkun Quisling.
 
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Real life armor and sci fi armor are nothing alike for very good reasons. Try bending in something that's 60+ pounds with a bunch of gear strapped to it with your belly encased in armor. It's not happening. A big reason besides mobility/ the ability to bend and sit is if you get shot there, it's considered a "survivable wound". I don't know where you're getting all this sniper nonsense from but I promise you a DM isn't lurking in the shadows with a 3 MOA rifle looking for gaps in people's armor. Most people can't move and shoot that accurately and combat is a very fluid situation.
 
Real life armor and sci fi armor are nothing alike for very good reasons. Try bending in something that's 60+ pounds with a bunch of gear strapped to it with your belly encased in armor. It's not happening. A big reason besides mobility/ the ability to bend and sit is if you get shot there, it's considered a "survivable wound". I don't know where you're getting all this sniper nonsense from but I promise you a DM isn't lurking in the shadows with a 3 MOA rifle looking for gaps in people's armor. Most people can't move and shoot that accurately and combat is a very fluid situation.

Promise? Really? What guarantees do you have? Marksmen have been taking shots at soldiers even before rifles were a thing. Dude, just watch Full Metal Jacket. Or read early American history which speaks of American marksmen who stayed behind the columns of soldiers and who loved taking potshots at British officers. There's no guarantee that someone behind the enemy troops won't take a shot at a more vulnerable part of the armor that can incapacitate or kill you. And of course, Galac-Tac armor was more based on sci-fi than real-life armors, since it puts a lot of armor and weight on a guy who could get shot in a spot where the armor doesn't cover. Maybe the men up-front exchanging cover fire can't move and shoot accurately, but that's what snipers are for. While the armor would be good against goons and thugs who spray and pray, against seasoned marksmen who aren't that close to the firefight, it's basically just asking for trouble.
 
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I don't really know how to answer this without powerleveling except to say you really don't know what you're talking about. None of your examples apply to combat, gear, or tactics today. You keep bringing up thugs who pray and spray like this is 1980s Compton. You have no idea the amount of gang bangers out there who are vets that know how to fight in urban areas. A recent example is that one guy in Dallas that was using small unit tactics against DPD. They had to use a literal bomb robot with explosives on it to dig him out of his position. We as a country have been through 19 consecutive years of war, soldiers and police have more to fear from drones and IEDs than these mythical snipers of your imagination. I mean yes, they exist, but in a lot of cases the ammo they use in DMS rifles are designed to penetrate the level IV composite plates we wear. Shooting someone through the gaps in the throat and armpit are more often luck than not. There's actually statistics I can pull up in the morning that headshots are far more common from people who barely know how to handle firearms than you'd believe.

Furthermore, anyone with the training to make these shots you're talking about is going to be using high velocity, special tipped ammo to defeat body armor anyway.
 
Keep in mind that this was just a shitty promo armor; for all we know, since AR500 isn't telling us what it's made from, it's just a shitty mock-up you can just smash through with a standard caliber. Hell, even if it's the good shit a .50 cal or something will probably do the trick.

Besides, why snipe for gaps when winging (with all them arteries and veins in said limbs) or just hucking an explosive (whose explosive force and shrapnel can fuck your day) does the same thing?
 
Keep in mind that this was just a shitty promo armor; for all we know, since AR500 isn't telling us what it's made from, it's just a shitty mock-up you can just smash through with a standard caliber. Hell, even if it's the good shit a .50 cal or something will probably do the trick.

Besides, why snipe for gaps when winging (with all them arteries and veins in said limbs) or just hucking an explosive (whose explosive force and shrapnel can fuck your day) does the same thing?

AR500 said it's a combination of soft armor and steel iirc. AR500 doesn't submit their armor for NIJ testing so I wouldn't use it except to larp anyway. They're a shady fucking company.
 
I don't really know how to answer this without powerleveling except to say you really don't know what you're talking about. None of your examples apply to combat, gear, or tactics today. You keep bringing up thugs who pray and spray like this is 1980s Compton. You have no idea the amount of gang bangers out there who are vets that know how to fight in urban areas. A recent example is that one guy in Dallas that was using small unit tactics against DPD. They had to use a literal bomb robot with explosives on it to dig him out of his position. We as a country have been through 19 consecutive years of war, soldiers and police have more to fear from drones and IEDs than these mythical snipers of your imagination. I mean yes, they exist, but in a lot of cases the ammo they use in DMS rifles are designed to penetrate the level IV composite plates we wear. Shooting someone through the gaps in the throat and armpit are more often luck than not. There's actually statistics I can pull up in the morning that headshots are far more common from people who barely know how to handle firearms than you'd believe.

Furthermore, anyone with the training to make these shots you're talking about is going to be using high velocity, special tipped ammo to defeat body armor anyway.

Most gangbangers today come from hood rats who aren't vets. You're the one who doesn't know what he's talking about. Sure, there were some gangsters who knew military tactics and who served in Iraq, especially during the 2000s, but most gangsters and rioters today are fatherless brats who learned how to use a gun from hood rats who have no military experience whatsoever. They act brave when their targets can't strike back, but the moment someone with a gun comes around and starts firing back, these gangbangers head for the hills. And no, it's not just luck, but skill, as well, that allows someone to shoot through the gaps of an armor, especially an armor that doesn't cover enough of the body.

We're not talking about headshots because the armor covers the head. We're talking about shots on the gaps of the armor. People have been shot in the head by mobsters who haven't had a lick of military experience even as far back as the 1920s, that isn't anything special.

Maybe they will use such ammo, maybe they don't have such ammo. But my point is that marksmen can still shoot through the gaps of that armor well enough to incapacitate or kill. Especially if those armored men are distracted fighting other goons, or if they're not even in a fight and the armored guy is just milling around.
 
I'm not arguing with you anymore. It's clear that you don't know shit but your e-ego is too large to allow you to be wrong. Continue living in your fantasy world.

So cotton padding and cheap crappy steel then is my guess. Probably can't even see too well out of that visor too.

Their steel plate is good enough to use for a range target plate but that's about it. I assume for their soft armor they use some kind of kevlar or aramid but I have no idea.
 
I'm not arguing with you anymore. It's clear that you don't know shit but your e-ego is too large to allow you to be wrong. Continue living in your fantasy world.

You're the one living in a fantasy land. Go look up some recent news, it's not the 2000s anymore.

Crooks wouldn't be stopped by mere civvies with guns if they had military tactics:

Its been days and they still do nothing to honor Cobb.
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And entering his name in search just takes me to a crappy Rose Tico article that has nothing to do with him...
Fuck these clowns.

What can we expect? It's not like modern Disney SW wants to honor the past. More like they want it erased.
 
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On a completely unrelated note, I managed to check out this video that @Getting tard comed recommended a few pages back on the thread, and I highly recommend it if you have two hours to kill.

I nearly pissed myself laughing at how the video highlights retards like RLM and Stuckmann, and their embarrassing lack of filmic knowledge.

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