2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[heyitsmike]

They said they will vote, not vote "yea". If they all voted present, we would have the votes without the need for ANY of them.

The fact that Murkowski walked back her original statement and even Romney is refraining from his usual drama queen routine leads me to think for once they fully comprehend the gravity of the political moment.

Any vote except Yea is equally unacceptable. Trying to be cute and voting Present instead of Nay will gain them no additional consideration. Everyone on the same page, everyone voting to confirm is the only way it can be. The only question is whether Susan Collins will vote to confirm or not. Everyone else will be Yea, barring some unforseen meltdown by ACB.

 

[GuntPunt]

The fact that Murkowski walked back her original statement and even Romney is refraining from his usual drama queen routine leads me to think for once they fully comprehend the gravity of the political moment.

Any vote except Yea is equally unacceptable. Trying to be cute and voting Present instead of Nay will gain them no additional consideration. Everyone on the same page, everyone voting to confirm is the only way it can be. The only question is whether Susan Collins will vote to confirm or not. Everyone else will be Yea, barring some unforseen meltdown by ACB.

I mean, that is probably the case that they walked back because they were convinced of Barret. We shall see how they react to her nomination.

Also, for Barnes: he is acting in bad faith because his choice didn't get picked (and he lost a bet).
Look what he said before the choices were lain out:

How is it factored in and make him lose at the same time, Barnes?

 

[CrippleThreat]

The one good news of the day. It's nice to see Trump hitting the Iron Range and before October. That makes me hopeful he will hit Minnesota multiple times next month and finally make a historic flip.

There is a three day gap between rallies though. I wonder what he has planned, if anything.

I know you don't like rumors, but if I recall the RSBN boss correctly, he said that after Duluth should be some more Minnesota.

But who knows? Trump has month to campaign his hardest in some of these quasi-battleground states (Nevada, Arizona?, Virginia, New Hampshire). And this is not just for rallies. The black event in Atlanta today was nice, just like the Latino roundtables. He more rapport just from touching down somewhere, I'd say he should visit the riot-touched cites (lol Oregon, Illinois, Washington). If he's going to try and dip some blood into NY's ocean one day soon, and quick sweep to build some red influence would be nice.

 

[tehpope]

Just a thought, what if Trump is favoring Barret because of her lockdown ruling?

Corona is still the weakest thing he’s polling on, maybe he’s hoping to ride the buzz from nominating someone who “took it seriously”.

I don’t think it matters who as long as they get through. Barret might give the purple state fence sitter senators pause, but it puts the squeeze on Romney specifically, because it means he’s have to go back to Salt Lake City and explain to his very Mormon constituency why he stonewalled a pro-life judge.

Why does everyone think Mitt gives a fuck what Utah thinks of him now? He's not up for election until 2024. A lot can happen inbetween now and then. Its not like he's gonna be recalled. Can you even recall a senator?

 

[heyitsmike]

I know you don't like rumors, but if I recall the RSBN boss correctly, he said that after Duluth should be some more Minnesota.

But who knows? Trump has month to campaign his hardest in some of these quasi-battleground states (Nevada, Arizona?, Virginia, New Hampshire). And this is not just for rallies. The black event in Atlanta today was nice, just like the Latino roundtables. He more rapport just from touching down somewhere, I'd say he should visit the riot-touched cites (lol Oregon, Illinois, Washington). If he's going to try and dip some blood into NY's ocean one day soon, and quick sweep to build some red influence would be nice.

I'd like to see him take half a day and swing by Nebraska 2nd as well.

 

[Someone Awful]

I mean, that is probably the case that they walked back because they were convinced of Barret. We shall see how they react to her nomination.

Also, for Barnes: he is acting in bad faith because his choice didn't get picked (and he lost a bet).
Look what he said before the choices were lain out:
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How is it factored in and make him lose at the same time, Barnes?

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Literally did not know this. I'd be lying if I said I didn't have my concerns with Barrett, but he's going way overboard with his salt. Something tells me he might change his tune if she gets confirmed anyway.

I know you don't like rumors, but if I recall the RSBN boss correctly, he said that after Duluth should be some more Minnesota.

But who knows? Trump has month to campaign his hardest in some of these quasi-battleground states (Nevada, Arizona?, Virginia, New Hampshire). And this is not just for rallies. The black event in Atlanta today was nice, just like the Latino roundtables. He more rapport just from touching down somewhere, I'd say he should visit the riot-touched cites (lol Oregon, Illinois, Washington). If he's going to try and dip some blood into NY's ocean one day soon, and quick sweep to build some red influence would be nice.

I'd like to ask, does the RSBN boss (whoever his name is) have a history of being a reliable leaker? I can personally believe it, but I always take leakers with a grain of salt for a reason. I wonder when he'll stop by Arizona since that is a tight battleground state, arguably tighter than Florida.

As for the riot-touched cities, hopefully Trump makes an entrance into Minneapolis before the election to try to win over more of the urban vote. If the Republicans are going to make gains in urban areas, it will be now when people are finally waking up to what Democrats have done to their cities. He really cannot afford a rally in solid blue states though. If he wants to perform a rally, win the election first and then host them. If he wants to lay the groundwork to turn New York purple, he can do it after the election.

 

[GuntPunt]

I'd like to ask, does the RSBN boss (whoever his name is) have a history of being a reliable leaker? I can personally believe it, but I always take leakers with a grain of salt for a reason. I wonder when he'll stop by Arizona since that is a tight battleground state, arguably tighter than Florida.

As for the riot-touched cities, hopefully Trump makes an entrance into Minneapolis before the election to try to win over more of the urban vote. If the Republicans are going to make gains in urban areas, it will be now when people are finally waking up to what Democrats have done to their cities. He really cannot afford a rally in solid blue states though. If he wants to perform a rally, win the election first and then host them. If he wants to lay the groundwork to turn New York purple, he can do it after the election.

He is legit.
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[ditto]

Also, for Barnes: he is acting in bad faith because his choice didn't get picked (and he lost a bet).

He's going full doomer. Must have a lot riding on Lagoa.

 

[Someone Awful]

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He is legit.
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Neat. Glad to see Trump's campaign picking up. Now let's hope Barrett gets through so Trump can keep improving his momentum.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Also, for Barnes: he is acting in bad faith because his choice didn't get picked (and he lost a bet).
Look what he said before the choices were lain out:
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Folks have money on Biden, folks have money on Lagoa....

Either way, the streams on the nomination are today at 5PM. Hopefully being right on Barrett doesn't make the left believe their fake polls more.

 

[Lodoss Warrior]

I'd argue the Coronavirus seriously damaged Trump's chances of winning. Before it reared its ugly heads, I would have said that Trump was almost guaranteed to win in 2020 - likely with higher electoral votes than 2016 - and that Biden was just a jobber candidate in a "minor" election like Romney was in 2012 and Kerry in 2004. Now it's more like 50/50 where he will barely squeak by. If Trump does not get Barrett through, his campaign is over. The Democrats will have an unifying issue to rally behind to vote Trump out, increase their margin in the House, and take the Senate. Then, they will pack the courts to ensure a Trump-like challenger never shows up again. Furthermore, this is a major decision that will shape the Supreme Court for decades to come, not just bad optics comments or saying fags shouldn't marry before it became a DNC rallying cry.

While I agree that a Barrett confirmation will ultimately help Trump, the problem is that she is a high risk nomination right before the election. She barely got through in the United States Court of Appeal for the Seventh Circuit. Compare that to Barbara Lagoa who has bipartisan appeal and would be all but guaranteed to be confirmed. That's a recipe for a bitter confirmation fight with four RINOs that might cuck out. Normally I'd be all for it to humiliate the DNC, but we're only a little over a month to the election and Trump has said he wants this issue taken care of now. A Barrett nomination will ensure weeks of fighting and that takes attention away from any other October surprises like peace treaties, the Durham Report, and a possible vaccine announcement. That's if she's not rejected. Why not go with Lagoa who has on record dealt with issues regarding the election, would lock up Florida, and is a low risk nominee, then save Barrett for when Breyer or Thomas retires?

I agree that 3) is a dumb argument if only because Barrett getting through would benefit Trump more than hurt him and for 1) I also think McConnell will pressure the RINOs to say "Yes" if only because it boosts their electoral chances. Thing is, 2), 4), and 5) are legitimate talking points. I've already covered 2) in the first paragraph, but for 4) keep in mind the Democrats will go after her record. They're not stupid enough to think that "She's too Catholic!" and "She'll overturn Roe v. Wade!" are sufficient to convince RINOs to vote "No". They will drag out the fact she joined the decision for lockdown in Illinois and paint Trump as a hypocrite for being anti-lockdown. Every bit of dirt she has will be brought to life. Never underestimate your enemies and Trump of all people knows this. As for 5) let's wait and see if she's the establishment choice like what we fear. If so, she'll get a surprisingly easy confirmation. If not and she survives the ring of fire, she'll most likely rule in Trump's favor in the event of a contested election.

Also worth noting that even if Barrett gets through and rules in favor of Trump, her ruling on lock down does not give me a lot of confidence if the government ever tries to pull shit like a climate lock down (archive). Hopefully it doesn't come to that.

The one good news of the day. It's nice to see Trump hitting the Iron Range and before October. That makes me hopeful he will hit Minnesota multiple times next month and finally make a historic flip.

There is a three day gap between rallies though. I wonder what he has planned, if anything.

I agree, COVID-19 is basically the only thing keeping Trump from coasting to victory. That it took a worldwide pandemic which caused a worldwide recession that nearly rivaled the Great Depression to even significantly affect election chances says more about Corona-circlejerkers than it does about any one politician's individual talking points.

Basically, I don't think any incumbant could have weathered through the economic and social impacts of the Kung Flu and come out none the worse. Trump being the media's hate-boner just exacerbated a natural result.

Your responses to 1, 2, and 4 (I'm not sold on 5 at all. Trump doesn't handpick individuals actually essential for his operations who would cuck out if things got spicy. See Pence in the 2016 election.) aren't inaccurrate, which is why I don't think Barrett is the ideal person. My post is more for the guys who legitimately think Donald Trump will likely lose the election because he nominated her.

 

[Jarolleon]

I agree, COVID-19 is basically the only thing keeping Trump from coasting to victory. That it took a worldwide pandemic which caused a worldwide recession that nearly rivaled the Great Depression to even significantly affect election chances says more about Corona-circlejerkers than it does about any one politician's individual talking points.

Basically, I don't think any incumbant could have weathered through the economic and social impacts of the Kung Flu and come out none the worse. Trump being the media's hate-boner just exacerbated a natural result.

Your responses to 1, 2, and 4 (I'm not sold on 5 at all. Trump doesn't handpick individuals actually essential for his operations who would cuck out if things got spicy. See Pence in the 2016 election.) aren't inaccurrate, which is why I don't think Barrett is the ideal person. My post is more for the guys who legitimately think Donald Trump will likely lose the election because he nominated her.

Isn't Jacinda Ardern a national hero down in NZ because of the Wu Flu? It isn't necessarily bad for incumbents if they can redirect the blame, usually to Trump or anti-maskers.

 

[MrJokerRager]

I'd argue the Coronavirus seriously damaged Trump's chances of winning. Before it reared its ugly heads,

That is where you are wrong kiddo. But seriously people were predicting the economy to be in the shitter by October or November. All that time Trump was running on "muh good economy" and stuff like banning Critical Race Theory and declaring ANTIFA terrorists would have never happened. Also normies would just roll their eyes at the "radical left" or "alt left" whatever you want to call it.

The coronavirus has helped out Trump and motivated his base more than ever before as now he can truly cast himself as Lincoln 2.0 compared to just some clown spouting 1950s boomer talking points. Now this election is Trump's to lose as a lot of his rhetoric has now come true.

Also on the side note, does anyone know if the Pakistani community is going to split more in favor of Trump as they hate India and Indians a lot. That is one group to look out for, will they be willing to put a fucking half nigger half pajeet in the White House. Also Obama droned and killed a lot of wedding parties in Pakistan.

 

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Guess on Bill Maher's show the Dems are all in on in person voting.

They really were planning on taking it to the SCOTUS and having Roberts hand them the country, weren't they?

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

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Guess on Bill Maher's show the Dems are all in on in person voting.

They really were planning on taking it to the SCOTUS and having Roberts hand them the country, weren't they?

probably.

That or they were just trying to make it as much of a shit show as possible knowing that they would lose in the end..and now they are like "Oh shit this election might be actually important FUCKING FUCK"

 

[Someone Awful]

Since we're anticipating Amy Barrett being the nominee, here is my map before the nomination,

Prediction:



Best-Case Scenario for Trump:



Best-Case Scenario for Biden:



Last time, I predicted that there might be more battleground states as time went on. If anything, recent information from trends and the news have tighten the battleground. As of today, Oregon, Maine Congressional District 1, Texas, Iowa, and Ohio are no longer competitive states. The only poll we know of in Oregon has Biden at 59% in the Portland Metropolitan Area, only about 1% less than Hillary Clinton got in 2016. Since no other polls have released unlike Minnesota which received a massive flurry when it became obvious to Democrats it was a battleground state, it's safe to conclude that not only will Oregon stay blue, it's also not turning red or even purple. The Democrats have the Pacific Coast locked up for the future. Maine Congressional District 1 will stay blue because of Trump losing white support. Even if he gets the anti-war vote to flip at-large Maine, the first congressional district is more left-leaning than the second one.

I'm confident that Texas, Iowa, and Ohio will go red. The trends indicating the rise in Hispanic support - I expect at least 35% to turn out for Trump - means there's no way Biden can get enough white Texans to offset the lost in Hispanic support. Ohio is a solid red state. At worst, it will trend a few point towards Biden. At most, Trump will win by double digit. Iowa will likely shift a few points towards Biden but he won't get the near double digit he needs to flip it. For now, that is a light red state.

That means twelve states and two congressional districts are battlegrounds,

Spoiler

• Arizona
• Florida
• Georgia
• Maine (at-large)
• Maine (2nd Congressional District)
• Michigan
• Minnesota
• Nebraska (2nd Congressional District)
• Nevada
• New Hampshire
• North Carolina
• Pennsylvania
• Virginia
• Wisconsin

Likely States

Likely states for Trump are Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, and the 2nd Congressional District for Maine. Likely states for Biden are Nevada, Michigan, Virginia, and Maine at-large. If either candidates lose one of their likely states, they have lost the election.

Spoiler

Michigan is looking dismal for Trump. Aside from Biden having an advantage with the automobile industry bailout a decade ago that resonates with people, they are also going to be counting ballots two weeks after the deadline. If Barrett gets through, then Trump has a better shot since she might rule in Trump's favor in light of a contested election. Even then, Trump needs a strong black turnout (more than 15%+) to offset the loss in white support, particularly in Wayne County with a black majority population in Detroit. Fair election or not, this is Biden's most likely flip.

Trump doing better than usual among Republicans with black and Hispanic voters could put Nevada in play if he can get 40% or more of the Hispanic vote. I have no doubt that number is referring to the target number he needs to flip the state and his double rally shows he's making a serious play for the state. He could do it. The issue, Nevada has a bad precedence for fraudulent elections that favor the Democrats. He will have to challenge Nevada's results in the Supreme Court if he wants any hope of flipping the state and if he gets Barrett on board, he has a shot if he can make a case he would win a legitimate election in Nevada. Until we find out if Barrett gets through, it's probably not flipping.

Trump's only hope of flipping Virginia is again, he can find a massive nonwhite support for him in the state to offset the increasingly woke white population that move from Washington D.C. Best to watch Roanoke or Richmond to see if they trend a lighter blue or purple than last election. He had a massive rally with likely around 200K voters, but I remain skeptical on him flipping it even with Northram trying to take away guns.

As for Maine, not much to say. Supposedly there's an anti-war population that would be pleased with the recent peace treaties Trump made but I'm not sure if that would be enough to flip it. It will be closer than what most so-called pollsters think but it will most likely stay blue.

Previously I said that Florida would be the state where this election was decided upon. While it is possible for Biden to win, there's not any evidence suggesting he might outside of awful polls that serve nothing more than DNC propaganda to demoralize Trump supporters. He's doing amazing with Hispanic support (Marist has him up at 50%), Biden is clearly not putting his all into the state aside from Michael Bloomberg bribing 32,000 niggers and spics in hopes of getting them to vote for Sleepy Joe, Venezuelans have complained about Kamala Harris, and voter registration is up. I am this close to calling Florida a lock and along with increased black support, I believe it will remain a light red state for the future. Not only that, with safeguards to reduce voting fraud even in worst case scenarios, Trump could win by 2-4%, higher than in 2016.

Not much to say in North Carolina other than that increased black support will likely push Trump over the edge. May or may not do better than in 2016. Same with Georgia. Not worried about either states. The only way Biden gets Maine Congressional District 2 is if he can swing voters back in double digits, but I am skeptical of him doing that, especially when it's as rural as it is.

Toss-Ups

That leaves five state that are toss-ups and one congressional districts; Arizona, Minnesota, Nebraska Congressional District 2, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. These states will decide who our next president is and the path we go on for decades. Both Trump or Biden must win between two to four toss-ups to win the election.

Spoiler

Regarding Nebraska Congressional District 2, I think I've said it before, but I believe the increasingly urbanized and diverse environment will flip the region blue. I could be wrong but just a gut feeling here.

Arizona still has a voter registration advantage for Republican, 2.5+ for Trump in the entire state and near 5+ for Maricopa County. Not only that, that county has been trending Republican lately. If it flips, Biden will get the state, but if it doesn't, chances are good Trump will take it. While I have concerns over mail-in ballot not requiring signatures and taking three days to count the vote (why?), there's a decent chance Trump can have a large enough margin to where the Democrats can't steal it.

Trump has a lot going for him in Minnesota. Low fraud culture, Norwegians are anti-war and thus more likely to support Trump due to his peace treaties and getting men and women out of never ending wars, the Iron Range likely flipping to Trump, and Democrats underperforming in their Twin Cities stronghold. It's nice to see him going to Duluth on the 30th. I might file this under a likely state for Trump. Only thing is that he's apparently not doing as well in Western Minnesota but I'm not sure if I entirely buy that. By far Trump's more likely flip and one I want to see the most. Could be a light red state in the future like Iowa.

Wisconsin has pockets of those same Norwegians and the Kenosha riots benefit Trump. Unfortunately, they also are counting ballots six days after the Election Day, which makes it possible for the DNC to steal the state. Still, this will be a close one and if Barrett gets in, it goes back to 50/50.

New Hampshire has been lagging among Republicans registration (but not by much), but it has a lot of anti war people in there and rural areas have been turning out for Trump, at least from what I've heard on The People's Pundit. This is a hard state to guess, but I am a lot more open to the possibility of it flipping than I was earlier this month. Gut feeling says it will stay blue but it's still the second most likely flip.

The state that could be the tipping point for Trump or Biden would be Pennsylvania. On the one hand, Biden has an (unfair) advantage thanks to not requiring a signature and counting ballots three days. Yet it also requires a privacy envelope so there is some safeguard (not enough though) for Trump. Trump also has the advantage of Republicans closing in on registration by the day as we get closer to the election. In 2016, Republicans were behind Democrats by 980,000. The most recent voter registration data I found had Trump at around 750,000 Republicans. He could very well get 2-3% over Biden and he could do well enough to where no amount of voting fraud can steal the state away from him. It's 50/50 either way but if Barrett gets in, Trump's odds goes up.

And that's my super late night analysis. Get ready for the nomination tomorrow evening, it's going to be a slugfest until the final vote.

 

[Surprised Pikachu]

With sky-high taxes, forest fires, rolling power-cuts, lockdowns, piss-poor education, no police, legal pedophilia and discrimination and sanctioned lunacy in the streets, looting, vandalism and murder..

What does the West Coast WANT before they’ll start voting for change? These people are lost.

 

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With sky-high taxes, forest fires, rolling power-cuts, lockdowns, piss-poor education, no police, legal pedophilia and discrimination and sanctioned lunacy in the streets, looting, vandalism and murder..

What does the West Coast WANT before they’ll start voting for change? These people are lost.

They'll only be happy once that mysterious "flyover country" that is between them and New York City is destroyed or brought to heel. Remember, they think they're better than you and people existing that believe different than them is an affront to their god (themselves).

As someone once said, poorly quoted, a National Divorce won't work because at their hearts, the left considers themselves the masters of all other Americans.

 

[heyitsmike]

Isn't Jacinda Ardern a national hero down in NZ because of the Wu Flu?

Manufactured consent. Same with Cuomo.

Also on the side note, does anyone know if the Pakistani community is going to split more in favor of Trump as they hate India and Indians a lot.

If American Pakistanis seriously hate India that much, why would they split in favor of pro Trump India?

 

[Aqua Panda]

Seeing the rallies in VA makes me wonder if the Trump campaign is trying to flip it.

NOVA is basically on Democratic lockdown. It would take all of Hampton Roads and Richmond to even entertain flipping the state.

Any polls? I can see the possibility with how unpopular the new Governor and legislature have been.