General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Least Concern]

That said, I'd like to see a breakdown of how new viewers are discovering Hololive and others. Are they finding it through Youtube, or is it all through Twitter and other places where word of mouth is spread?

Oh, sure, and YouTube is how I found these folks too (though, really, how else would I have?). But certainly there's a point of diminishing returns for that exposure. Nobody, neither the streamers or the management, is paid in exposure…

 

[Cubanodun]

The HK fans can also be rabid online, same as the Taiwanese ones. Again look how they tried to fuck with Civia's debut stream so she had to disable pre stream chat to stop the fighting just cus she is a CN vtuber and not political at all.

One of the things that i should mention and for a little context is that the chinese and taiwaneses are incredibly and hugely weebs, people here should be used by now to the american side of things like our fansubs back in the day, but the chinese scene is incredibly huge, back in the day they were and still are the fastest subber on that side of the planet, there are thousands and thousands of fansubs, escalators and translators shitting things in chinese that you would be surprised, they also have their own scene of Light novels and weebtoons almost as big as the korean one, if you want to see a immediately proof try to go to sad panda and compare the amounts of doujinshi translated in chinese with the ones translated on english

By that I mean lamy being confused and practically carried by shishiron as usual.

She passed almost all the night playing Minecraft after that, she got addicted to it

That said, I'd like to see a breakdown of how new viewers are discovering Hololive and others. Are they finding it through Youtube, or is it all through Twitter and other places where word of mouth is spread?

Mine was the Azur Lane event, i got a good laugh at Matsuri lines there and people were joking how amazing she is, then i went to her channel and falled into the chuba hole

 

[Renmai]

I've always thought they should start moving some of their game-heavy talent to Twitch, but someone raised the point that they only keep archives for like 3 months. The pay seems better though; it'd just be moving from one massive west-owned platform with a twitchy ban hammer to another.

Artia is the only one who streams on twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/artia_hololive/

Twitch is pretty dead in Japan so it makes sense their Japan based streamers would ignore it. I was hoping that the new HololiveEN could stream more on twitch but none of them seem to be huge ex twitch only streamers which surprised me a little.. Twitch seems even more ban happy than youtube, especially lewd content except for certain twitch thots who can get away with everything. Also iirc twitch partners can't stream similar content on other platforms.

 

[negativlad]

Artia is the only one who streams on twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/artia_hololive/

Twitch is pretty dead in Japan so it makes sense their Japan based streamers would ignore it. I was hoping that the new HololiveEN could stream more on twitch but none of them seem to be huge ex twitch only streamers which surprised me a little.. Twitch seems even more ban happy than youtube, especially lewd content except for certain twitch thots who can get away with everything. Also iirc twitch partners can't stream similar content on other platforms.

Yeah, that was the other hang-up, that partners can't share with other sites. Gura and Amelia used to stream on twitch as senzawa and sachiowo, but senzawa has DFE while sachiowo only has a few clips up including the famous foot-licking clip. Don't know if they'll come back, given the restrictions.

 

[Cubanodun]

Twitch is pretty dead in Japan so it makes sense their Japan based streamers would ignore it.

Is hard to compete when you already have two other sites curb stomping you in Japan, NicoNico and Youtube, Twitch came very late and the userbases of both websites don't see any reason to migrate to THOT central

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

The Onion is getting better at English and Roboco is going to be with Coco and reviewing shitposts together.

Is hard to compete when you already have two other sites curb stomping you in Japan, NicoNico and Youtube, Twitch came very late and the userbases of both websites don't see any reason to migrate to THOT central

China also has Bilibili and they run circles around YouTube. Then again, YouTube is filled with incompetent workers that I wouldn't trust to operate a bicycle, let alone a large website.

 

[Cubanodun]

China also has Bilibili and they run circles around YouTube

Because Youtube is blocked there, so they reign supreme because there is no one else

Edit: FUCK YOU ARGENTINA YOU FUCKING DESERVE COMMUNISM AGAIN FOR THIS Translation: Nimu fuck your mom

Spoiler: Context

Nimu is the name of the Spanish speaking Vtuber that i mentioned a few pages ago, she has been reviled for a while after the huge backlash for her bullying to a other vtuber that was using a free model to start in vtubing,

 

[Namesarehardtocomeupwith]

Is hard to compete when you already have two other sites curb stomping you in Japan, NicoNico and Youtube, Twitch came very late and the userbases of both websites don't see any reason to migrate to THOT central

Imagine the salt mine from twitch thot when the inevitable day of our new virtual overlord comes steal their "honest work".

 

[Dang Woodchucks!]

Because Youtube is blocked there, so they reign supreme because there is no one else

Edit: FUCK YOU ARGENTINA YOU FUCKING DESERVE COMMUNISM AGAIN FOR THIS Translation: Nimu fuck your mom

Spoiler: Context

Nimu is the name of the Spanish speaking Vtuber that i mentioned a few pages ago, she has been reviled for a while after the huge backlash for her bullying to a other vtuber that was using a free model to start in vtubing,

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Can't they get Coco or some one other than doggo to throw into their autist jihad? I swear to fucking Christ, Latin America was a fucking mistake.

 

[Krystal]

Can't they get Coco or some one other than doggo to throw into their autist jihad? I swear to fucking Christ, Latin America was a fucking mistake.

It sounds like it was Argentina. So much for them being white. They can make even Brazil look civilized during chimpouts.

 

[Cubanodun]

It sounds like it was Argentina.

"Conchatumadre" is a argentinian slang, they are the only country that willingly choose twice to be dominated by Communists and become Venezuela Build 2000 because when capitalism came the gibs disappeared

Latin America was a fucking mistake.

Jesus i just want this place to be nuked already i think only Chile is halfway decent, the mexicans and others immediately chastised the argentinians on the chat, you have to be this autistic to look inferior to Mexico btw the reason she said it is for a weird feature that red superchats are according to regions, so argentinians can do red with a mere 16 bucks

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

 

[angeltear]

hey gang im new to kiwifarms but i just made an account to comment on this thread. hololive en is like. my current interest? and about their other identities, i'm like 99% on ina and calli being nagu and demondice. kiara i could go 50-50 on whether she's keeki or not, i watched a keeki stream but i'm not too sure. as for amelia and gura, i really don't think their voices sound that similar to sachi and senzawa? in some instances amelia can sound like sachi a little i guess? but i think gura's voice is too deep for senzawa, they just both have a cutesy tone. idk maybe im just being dumb. what do y'all think?

 

[Neurotic Loser]

COVER knelt to the antis again.

弊社所属タレントの配信内の一部言動に対する問題につきまして

弊社所属タレントの配信内の一部言動に対する問題につきまして

cover-corp.com

Spoiler: Translation

DeepL + yandex
The following is a summary of the issues related to some of the behaviors in the distribution of our company's talents
We would like to thank you for your support of our company's VTuber production office, "Hololive Production".
I am writing to inform you of the inappropriate behavior that is currently being reported in the distribution of our "hololive" talents, namely, Haato Akai and Koko Kiryu.
We would like to express our sincere apologies to our fans and other related parties who have been supporting us, and we apologize for any inconvenience they may have caused. We also apologize for the time it has taken for us to confirm the current situation.
The current situation was confirmed by the parties involved, as well as Akai Haato and Kiryu Koko. As a result, we confirmed that both of them disclosed statistical data and secondary use of their YouTube channels, which are confidential information, and that they made some comments about the content of their YouTube channels that were not considerate of people living in certain areas.
At present, the company conducts and reinforces compliance training for its employees based on the company's internal guidelines for its own employees. The fact that the Company's actions were in violation of the Company's guidelines and the content of the contract, including the actions and words of the employees, is a fact, and the Company takes the position and influence of the employees as a matter of fact, and therefore, the Company strongly rejects the actions as being beyond its awareness and responsibility.
In light of this incident, we have decided to impose a three-week suspension of the Talent Management System for Akai Heart and Kiryu Co. due to violations of the Company's guidelines and contractual terms and conditions, and we will continue to provide thorough guidance to the employees.
We have taken the issues that have arisen in the midst of guideline training and development head-on, and we will continue to work diligently to provide guidance to our employees and prevent their reoccurrence in order to gain the trust of our fans and other stakeholders. We will do our best to prevent recurrence and provide guidance to fans and other interested parties.
Sourced from /jp/

So both Kiryu Coco and Akai Haato are suspended for three weeks.

 

[Friend computer]

COVER knelt to the antis again.

弊社所属タレントの配信内の一部言動に対する問題につきまして

弊社所属タレントの配信内の一部言動に対する問題につきまして

cover-corp.com

Spoiler: Translation

DeepL + yandex
The following is a summary of the issues related to some of the behaviors in the distribution of our company's talents
We would like to thank you for your support of our company's VTuber production office, "Hololive Production".
I am writing to inform you of the inappropriate behavior that is currently being reported in the distribution of our "hololive" talents, namely, Haato Akai and Koko Kiryu.
We would like to express our sincere apologies to our fans and other related parties who have been supporting us, and we apologize for any inconvenience they may have caused. We also apologize for the time it has taken for us to confirm the current situation.
The current situation was confirmed by the parties involved, as well as Akai Haato and Kiryu Koko. As a result, we confirmed that both of them disclosed statistical data and secondary use of their YouTube channels, which are confidential information, and that they made some comments about the content of their YouTube channels that were not considerate of people living in certain areas.
At present, the company conducts and reinforces compliance training for its employees based on the company's internal guidelines for its own employees. The fact that the Company's actions were in violation of the Company's guidelines and the content of the contract, including the actions and words of the employees, is a fact, and the Company takes the position and influence of the employees as a matter of fact, and therefore, the Company strongly rejects the actions as being beyond its awareness and responsibility.
In light of this incident, we have decided to impose a three-week suspension of the Talent Management System for Akai Heart and Kiryu Co. due to violations of the Company's guidelines and contractual terms and conditions, and we will continue to provide thorough guidance to the employees.
We have taken the issues that have arisen in the midst of guideline training and development head-on, and we will continue to work diligently to provide guidance to our employees and prevent their reoccurrence in order to gain the trust of our fans and other stakeholders. We will do our best to prevent recurrence and provide guidance to fans and other interested parties.
Sourced from /jp/

So both Kiryu Coco and Akai Haato are suspended for three weeks.

Koko is understandable, stupid thing to bring up.

But what did Haato do?

 

[Neurotic Loser]

Koko is understandable, stupid thing to bring up.

But what did Haato do?

She brought it up first, on a stream a day earlier than Coco.

 

[Namesarehardtocomeupwith]

Koko is understandable, stupid thing to bring up.

But what did Haato do?

Haachama clueless as always brought it up first, Coco probably don't want another Choco/Aloe incident and decide to take the heat I guess since she's used to antis and such. Cover being a cuck as usual suspense the two for three weeks.
Has there been any shitshow that Cover is involed in that doesn't end up in they punishing their talents?

 

[Slimy Time]

Decided to check out this Vtuber/Hololive stuff with the backlash from Twitter. Surprisingly kinda fun to watch. I know its all an act, rping as a shark or dog anime girl, but that seems to be part of the fun. Guess it's kinda the same deal with Project Melody - slightly different and entertaining compared to other face cam streamers.

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

At least we have Risu to fill the void, along with Nijisanji.

 

[Bungus Scrungus]

Man, this shit brings out the Nanking in Japanese. One of the responses I saw to an angry Chinaman was literally along the lines of "I hope your family is fucked to death by dogs." Some of the Chinese I've seen have also stated "Yeah, this is why the world hates us, what the fuck guys, come on." I get the Chinese market is big, but fucks sake, it should be obvious at this point that market comes with too much bullshit that'll ultimately weigh you down, especially now. It sucks for them, but maybe they should cut off the CN Branch? This shit is proving too much to be a minefield.

Also, Slimy, I wouldn't say it's all an act. Some play up their characters more than others, but at the end of the day it's the person themselves who make it all work and come together.