Orbiter 🏳️‍🌈🐱 Nick Fuentes / Nicholas Joseph Fuentes / der America First Pürrer / "Nick the Knife" - CatboyKami's ex. Flipped fed asset after January 6th. Groypers are pardoned for January 6th, still a fag. Kept Ali Akbar, brown muslim boy-hungry pedophile, around groypers knowing what he was. Hates white women more than blacks and jews.

tantric_depressive said:
So he couldn't have even been raised Catholic, cuz there's no way he wouldn't know about not eating meat on every Friday during Lent, as well as Ash Wednesday. And he claims to be a tradCath? Aren't Tradcaths super hardcore about pre-Vatican2 tradition (even though I've seen stuff about TradCath's founders being subversives to further divide and undermine the Catholic faith)? I wonder if he even knows about them still practicing Mass in Latin?
Anyway, I thought his family was supposed to be Catholic? They're well-off, I figured if they weren't practicing Catholics, they probably would've still sent Nick to a private Catholic gradeschool, where he would've learned of Lent and Ash Wednesday, at the least. Are we sure Nick isn't from a more 'connected' background than previously thought?
Can everyone that's read this far itt agree that any of Nick's religious pretensions are nothing more than a lazy front at best? His TradCatholicism doesn't even qualify as larping to me, as at least larpers learn the basic rules of the religion they're practicing exclusively online, usually to the point of sperging about obscure figures, events and dogma
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Not all Catholics do the no meat on friday shit or Ash Wednesday, people.
 
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Rekkington said:
Not all Catholics do the no meat on friday shit or Ash Wednesday, people.
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I know, I just hold anyone claiming to be a leader and exemplar of a tradition and religion that I'm familiar with, and fond of, to a higher standard than I would someone who just happens to be Catholic. Doubly so, since it's young, inexperienced, and impressionable people that they're trying to get to follow them. I don't see reason to give an obviously bad-intentioned grifter the benefit of the doubt.
 
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tantric_depressive said:
I know, I just hold anyone claiming to be a leader and exemplar of a tradition and religion that I'm familiar with, and fond of, to a higher standard than I would someone who just happens to be Catholic. Doubly so, since it's young, inexperienced, and impressionable people that they're trying to get to follow them. I don't see reason to give an obviously bad-intentioned grifter the benefit of the doubt.
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If Nick was just a normie Catholic that would be fine.

But given the he makes himself out as a leader and exemplar of tradition and being 'muh heckin based and redpilled', you'd he would be an expert on being a Catholic. He literally kickstarted the whole 'TradCath' trend-I mean political movement among zoomers and he doesn't even get that right.
 
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KiwiJoe said:
He literally kickstarted the whole 'TradCath' trend-I mean political movement among zoomers and he doesn't even get that right.
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I saw a lot of TradCaths emerging in political discussions around 2017. They were leaderless at the time, but seemed to be everywhere. Fuentes existed at that time, but was not very well-known. So I disagree with the idea that Fuentes "kickstarted" the trend.

I see it as an attempt to salvage the energy a lot of right wingers had around the 2016 election. Back then, it was Pepe, meme magic, oven memes, (((The Coincidence Detector))), and so on. There was a big tent of people that included anyone who thought they might get something out of a Trump presidency. After they achieved that, they became listless. Charlottesville scared a lot of people off from explicit white racial politics. What Fuentes is doing is triangulating a space between the dissident right and Conservative Inc. By doing so, he could perhaps avoid the most intense forms of censorship/repression, while still appealing to people who feel like society's problems have become too big for mainstream politics to address.

I do agree that he should be more knowledgeable about his religion.
 
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believe all women said:
What Fuentes is doing is triangulating a space between the dissident right and Conservative Inc. By doing so, he could perhaps avoid the most intense forms of censorship/repression, while still appealing to people who feel like society's problems have become too big for mainstream politics to address.
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This is literally what is called the Alt-Lite
 
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Cypher said:
This is literally what is called the Alt-Lite
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Stylistically, but not substantially. The Alt-Lite is misunderstood as a kind of "gateway drug" to the alt right. It's actually supposed to be an edgy way of marketing Conservative Inc. ideas to people who want more than Conservative Inc. can offer. I remember studies coming out around 2017-2018 saying that people who look at "Alt-Lite" material become "Alt-Right" within 6 months, or something like that. The interpretation that most people offered to those studies is that the Alt-Lite ushers people into the Alt-Right. Perhaps it does, but it's supposed to be the opposite: A speed bump rather than a downward slope.

Fuentes attended Charlottesville, and surely knows more than he lets on. However, he is a Catholic, so spreading Catholicism is a higher priority than anything else.
 
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believe all women said:
I saw a lot of TradCaths emerging in political discussions around 2017. They were leaderless at the time, but seemed to be everywhere. Fuentes existed at that time, but was not very well-known. So I disagree with the idea that Fuentes "kickstarted" the trend.

I see it as an attempt to salvage the energy a lot of right wingers had around the 2016 election. Back then, it was Pepe, meme magic, oven memes, (((The Coincidence Detector))), and so on. There was a big tent of people that included anyone who thought they might get something out of a Trump presidency. After they achieved that, they became listless. Charlottesville scared a lot of people off from explicit white racial politics. What Fuentes is doing is triangulating a space between the dissident right and Conservative Inc. By doing so, he could perhaps avoid the most intense forms of censorship/repression, while still appealing to people who feel like society's problems have become too big for mainstream politics to address.

I do agree that he should be more knowledgeable about his religion.
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>I saw a lot of TradCaths emerging in political discussions around 2017. They were leaderless at the time, but seemed to be everywhere. Fuentes existed at that time, but was not very well-known. So I disagree with the idea that Fuentes "kickstarted" the trend.

That does make a lot of sense, actually. I wonder how that trend came up though. I know Deus Vult was a big meme back in 2016 so I guess it helped popularized the image of TradCaths being 'based and redpilled badass-macho crusader knights" or something? Adding to the LARP I guess.

But in more serious terms I know there's also legit TradCath ideologues like E. Micheal Jones but I don't know how popular is he. That and American Renaissance? But I don't know much about them.
 
KiwiJoe said:
>I saw a lot of TradCaths emerging in political discussions around 2017. They were leaderless at the time, but seemed to be everywhere. Fuentes existed at that time, but was not very well-known. So I disagree with the idea that Fuentes "kickstarted" the trend.

That does make a lot of sense, actually. I wonder how that trend came up though. I know Deus Vult was a big meme back in 2016 so I guess it helped popularized the image of TradCaths being 'based and redpilled badass-macho crusader knights" or something? Adding to the LARP I guess.

But in more serious terms I know there's also legit TradCath ideologues like E. Micheal Jones but I don't know how popular is he. That and American Renaissance? But I don't know much about them.
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I think I started seeing Deus Vult around 2017. Things were falling apart in the dissident right scene, the factions that used to get along were no longer getting along, so the short bus kids decided to start demanding everyone be religious, as if that would sort everything out. No one should be surprised that that just made everyone more hostile and dysfunctional.

American Renaissance is a straight-up racialist magazine. Not Catholic at all.
 
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I think I started seeing Deus Vult around 2017. Things were falling apart in the dissident right scene, the factions that used to get along were no longer getting along, so the short bus kids decided to start demanding everyone be religious, as if that would sort everything out. No one should be surprised that that just made everyone more hostile and dysfunctional.

American Renaissance is a straight-up racialist magazine. Not Catholic at all.
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Deus Vult was years before that on /pol/. As far as I can tell it really started to pick up as a foil to Islam which nobody even really cares about anymore, so post 9/11 but not before 2010 I would imagine.
 
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Rekkington said:
Deus Vult was years before that on /pol/. As far as I can tell it really started to pick up as a foil to Islam which nobody even really cares about anymore, so post 9/11 but not before 2010 I would imagine.
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Yeah, the online-only religion autism and resultant larping, for both Catholic and Orthodox denominations, was started long before people like Fuentes and Jay Dyer hopped on it. I wasn't even on chans back then, but it had already spread off of them onto sites that shared similar shitpost mentalities. I remember seeing autists trying to debate and convert one another in the most boring, shitty pseudo-intellectual threads. Imagine pol autism without the constraint of community pressure to be concise and to-the-point. It sucked, every big-brain wannabe is attracted to it at one point, I think. It's a way to sound smart and knowledgeable
Trad Catholicism isn't even traditional in the sense that people think, either. From some stuff I've seen, it's more pagan than actual Catholic at heart, based on Evola writing, and about 'pre-civilization' natural ubermensch tradition, and is supported by old aristocrats cuz it supports their 'divine' right to rule, or some shit similar to that

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What is even going on here?

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Lol, he is disgusted by females, and literally incapable of talking to, or charming them, and is drawn with a gravitational pull away from them towards the closest male figure, while looking stiffer than the mall mannequins, smdh
How's he supposed to lead anyone if he can't even make smalltalk with teenage girls? He's a celebrity to them, it would have just taken him lightening up, and acting human to them. They would've come away with a positive impression of him if he acted the slightest bit open towards 'em. He just reinforces negative media stereotypes about himself by being so cringe n gay around pleb girls. Groypers are doomed to being perceived as gay, girlshy, and misogynistic, as well as being celibate, for as long as they have Fuentes & the Irony Bros leading them
 
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greengrilledcheese said:
What is even going on here?
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IDK, but do these sweatshirts come in tiny Asian sizes?

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garakfan69 said:
Have you ever seen someone who is Mexican AND Catholic?
Is your mind blown yet, libs?

Nick must be some kind of genius to successfully sell the traditional Mexican lifestyle to White Nationalists.
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I don't think Nick really appreciates his Mexican heritage a lot besides self-deprecating jokes every now and then or as a reflection to people who call him racist. Seems like Nick tries to LARP as a Spaniard instead.
 
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