Long-Concealed Records Show Trump’s Chronic Losses and Years of Tax Avoidance - DRUMPF IS FINISHED No. Infinity Squared



Archive: https://archive.vn/2STEO


Donald J. Trump paid $750 in federal income taxes the year he won the presidency. In his first year in the White House, he paid another $750.

He had paid no income taxes at all in 10 of the previous 15 years — largely because he reported losing much more money than he made.

As the president wages a re-election campaign that polls say he is in danger of losing, his finances are under stress, beset by losses and hundreds of millions of dollars in debt coming due that he has personally guaranteed. Also hanging over him is a decade-long audit battle with the Internal Revenue Service over the legitimacy of a $72.9 million tax refund that he claimed, and received, after declaring huge losses. An adverse ruling could cost him more than $100 million.

The tax returns that Mr. Trump has long fought to keep private tell a story fundamentally different from the one he has sold to the American public. His reports to the I.R.S. portray a businessman who takes in hundreds of millions of dollars a year yet racks up chronic losses that he aggressively employs to avoid paying taxes. Now, with his financial challenges mounting, the records show that he depends more and more on making money from businesses that put him in potential and often direct conflict of interest with his job as president.

The New York Times has obtained tax-return data extending over more than two decades for Mr. Trump and the hundreds of companies that make up his business organization, including detailed information from his first two years in office. It does not include his personal returns for 2018 or 2019. This article offers an overview of The Times’s findings; additional articles will be published in the coming weeks.

The returns are some of the most sought-after, and speculated-about, records in recent memory. In Mr. Trump’s nearly four years in office — and across his endlessly hyped decades in the public eye — journalists, prosecutors, opposition politicians and conspiracists have, with limited success, sought to excavate the enigmas of his finances. By their very nature, the filings will leave many questions unanswered, many questioners unfulfilled. They comprise information that Mr. Trump has disclosed to the I.R.S., not the findings of an independent financial examination. They report that Mr. Trump owns hundreds of millions of dollars in valuable assets, but they do not reveal his true wealth. Nor do they reveal any previously unreported connections to Russia.

[Continued at source; too long to post on-site]

---

Ladies and gentlemen, after years, they finally have them! Will anyone care?!

(I don't think I can post the article here because of word limits. What's the rules for this? Trying to screenshot the page also doesn't work. Fun.)
 

This clip will never be irrelevant.

e: Considering that the IRS have never come after Trump and even Obama in 2016 couldn't use the IRS to crush Trump leads me to believe he's pretty clean, tax wise. He's been in the spotlight for decades at this point. Surely he would have been audited if the IRS smelled something fishy. He's most likely using loopholes to pay as little taxes as possible. Just like every other rich motherfucker.
 
Last edited:
I think everyone here can agree that tax loopholes that the rich use are bullshit

Until they're off the books, they're also legal, so, complaining about them doesn't help.

Also, it ignores the likely hypocrisy that the person condemning them wouldn't also use them if they had the means to hire an accountant and lawyer to find and exploit them.

I find that in a lot of cases, those complaining about "loopholes" are really saying "no fair someone else gamed the system in a way I can't copy due to lack of resources/insight"
 
Until they're off the books, they're also legal, so, complaining about them doesn't help.

Also, it ignores the likely hypocrisy that the person condemning them wouldn't also use them if they had the means to hire an accountant and lawyer to find and exploit them.

They're legal, but they should get removed. Then again, the rich are in power and they don't want to pay, so that won't happen.
 
The real issue here isn't the taxes per se, but that Trump is broke and easily bought.

I mean, look at all the sleaze the Clintons got up to when they staggered out of the White House dead broke. Trump's way deeper in the hole (or at least, has many more balls he's trying to keep juggling), and he may very well stay another 4 years.
 
So did they post the actual tax returns or are they saying "just take our word for it lol"?
EDFF3C52-044C-43E5-9BE3-262939B073A2.jpeg
Take our word for it! We have anonymous legal sources! Also an obligatory line about Putin.
 
I haven't followed the tax return issue too closely so I'm not sure of the current state of play, but I notice that the Times says that its sources have legal access to the documents. Is it also legal for those sources to disclose the documents to the public? There are certainly people at the IRS who can access individually identifiable taxpayers' returns, but I don't think it's legal for them to send copies to the NYT.
 
View attachment 1625673
Take our word for it! We have anonymous legal sources! Also an obligatory line about Putin.
If it is fake, it should be incredibly easy for Trump to disprove by releasing his tax returns himself. In fact, this would be the smoking gun that irreparably destroys NYT's reputation if Trump can prove that it's fake. If he still refuses to release his tax returns despite how much of a boost it would be for him to disprove the NYT's reporting, then we can assume it's real.
 
Last edited:
Back