Chinese Communist Party Megathread - Cold War 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Interesting video on the general structure of the PLA (IMO). I didn't realize just how poorly it was maintained.

Also, the PLA worked with the UN for the first time in 2016. It goes about how you would expect.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/06/un-peacekeepers-refused-to-help-south-sudan-rebels-raped-aid-workers-report

Chinese UN peacekeepers in the capital Juba “abandoned their posts entirely” at one civilian protection site where tens of thousands had sought safety from successive bouts of fighting

 

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Interesting video on the general structure of the PLA (IMO). I didn't realize just how poorly it was maintained.

I think you can take that vid with a grain of salt given its obvious bias, but it did bring up one interesting point that bears repeating; the Chinese armed forces to this day are merely the military wing of the CCP; they do not belong to China as a state. They pledge allegiance to the CCP, not China itself (inasmuch as China as a political entity exists without the CCP). That'd be like if the US military were part of the Republican party and pledged allegiance to the Republican party leadership rather than to America and its constitution. Imagine another non-third-world country that operates this way.

 

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I think you can take that vid with a grain of salt given its obvious bias, but it did bring up one interesting point that bears repeating; the Chinese armed forces to this day are merely the military wing of the CCP; they do not belong to China as a state. They pledge allegiance to the CCP, not China itself (inasmuch as China as a political entity exists without the CCP). That'd be like if the US military were part of the Republican party and pledged allegiance to the Republican party leadership rather than to America and its constitution. Imagine another non-third-world country that operates this way.

True unless you can verify it yourself everything should be taken with a grain of salt. One of the interesting things I realized (can't remember if it was this video or not) was how the only way to move up the ranks was to purchase the privilege or toady to the party. Seeing how everything else in China functions it should not be a surprise but the realization that the higher-ranking officials have no idea what the fuck they are doing. The PLA is literally a bunch of rich kids playing soldier...a army of the blind leading the blind.

 

[NerdShamer]

True unless you can verify it yourself everything should be taken with a grain of salt. One of the interesting things I realized (can't remember if it was this video or not) was how the only way to move up the ranks was to purchase the privilege or toady to the party. Seeing how everything else in China functions it should not be a surprise but the realization that the higher-ranking officials have no idea what the fuck they are doing. The PLA is literally a bunch of rich kids playing soldier...a army of the blind leading the blind.

Which makes all the easier to kick their teeth in.

 

[Syaoran Li]

LOL dont forget the time mao encouraged free speech and then killed everyone who spoke out against communism like a year later. Also If I recall Winnie the poos parents were killed by mao during the cultural revolution so you would think he would hate the CCP but he seems just as bad.

It'd be hilarious if Chairman Winnie was playing some 21-Dimensional Vampire: The Masquerade moves to destroy the CCP government from within and make China implode. He's already either sidelined or purged most of the Beijing Politburo from the post-Deng Xiaoping era.

 

[Yotsubaaa]

Hopefully this is the right place? Apparently there was a leak from Zhenhua Data recently and their "Overseas Key Individuals Database", revealing a list of over 24 million people they're compiling profiles on. From what's been reported so far the list contains at least 50,000 Americans, 40,000 British citizens, 35,000 Australian citizens, over 10,000 Indian citizens and 5,000 Canadians, with the majority in prominent positions in government and academia. The CCP is, of course, one of Zhenhua Data's main clients.

Chinese tech firm compiles database on tens of thousands of British figures

Files on senior politicians and their families among those stored as part of worldwide intelligence collection operation

www.telegraph.co.uk

https://archive.vn/GLHYI

China's social media warfare database lists key Australians

A list of more than 35,000 Australians has been complied by a Chinese military contractor that boasts of 'promoting conflict' and waging 'hybrid warfare'.

www.afr.com

https://archive.vn/YQaxu

https://indianexpress.com/article/express-exclusive/china-watching-big-data-president-kovind-pm-narendra-modi-opposition-leaders-chief-justice-of-india-zhenhua-data-information-technology-6594861/

https://archive.vn/gUBmr

 

[ZMOT]

It'd be hilarious if Chairman Winnie was playing some 21-Dimensional Vampire: The Masquerade moves to destroy the CCP government from within and make China implode. He's already either sidelined or purged most of the Beijing Politburo from the post-Deng Xiaoping era.

it's much more simple, he's just cleaning the ranks to make sure no one can challenge his position. similar to how in the middle east most people are either incompetent or toeing the regime line hard, anyone else that might become a problem gets taken care off early.
that it also makes the command structure much more fragile is an acceptable side effect.

 

[NerdShamer]

it's much more simple, he's just cleaning the ranks to make sure no one can challenge his position. similar to how in the middle east most people are either incompetent or toeing the regime line hard, anyone else that might become a problem gets taken care off early.
that it also makes the command structure much more fragile is an acceptable side effect.

History is repeating itself. If it's anything like Stalin's purges, China won't have much to do, aside from human wave tactics and launching missiles.

 

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China-US tensions: video of PLA ‘attack’ on Pacific airbase uses footage from Hollywood movies (a)

EDIT: I think I found the original video, though the sound is screwed up - I suggest muting.

 

[Jimmy Durante's Ballsack]

China-US tensions: video of PLA ‘attack’ on Pacific airbase uses footage from Hollywood movies (a)

EDIT: I think I found the original video, though the sound is screwed up - I suggest muting.

It's a good video, China. I liked it. Just remember to use a "fair use" tag and also remember that the US military does in fact have assets all over the Pacific when you do it for real.

*pats China on the head*

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

Not sure if this was brought up yet

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Not sure if this was brought up yet

Ah shit, here we go again.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Not sure if this was brought up yet

Get ready for the nuts saying the CIA/Mossad did it, etc...

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

Get ready for the nuts saying the CIA/Mossad did it, etc...

Or worse, they'll say the Uyghur terrorists did it, justifying the re-education camps up Northwest.

 

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Tim Cook did it, obviously.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Tim Cook did it, obviously.

I thought Sam Hyde was behind this.

I hope they didn't stored anything else so that won't blow like that explosion in Beirut.

 

[benutz]

I meant to put this up a few days ago but it got lost. I was going to write it up a bit more but I'm fucked now.

Here he is with our fave poster girl:

NEW YORK (AP) — A New York City police officer was charged on Monday with being an “intelligence asset” for the Chinese government who agreed to spy on U.S. supporters of the Tibetan independence movement.
Baimadajie Angwang, a naturalized U.S. citizen from Tibet, worked since 2018 as an agent for the People’s Republic of China in its effort to suppress the movement, according to a criminal complaint filed in Brooklyn federal court. It says he secretly worked for unnamed handlers from the Chinese consulate in New York.
There was no allegation that Angwang compromised national security or New York Police Department operations. Still, he was considered “the definition of an insider threat,” William Sweeney, head of the FBI’s New York office, said in a statement.

https://archive.vn/l0JFX

NEW YORK — A New York City police officer and Army reservist was charged on Monday with being an “intelligence asset” for the Chinese government who agreed to spy on U.S. supporters of the Tibetan independence movement.

Baimadajie Angwang, a naturalized U.S. citizen from Tibet, worked since 2018 as an agent for the People’s Republic of China in its effort to suppress the movement, according to a criminal complaint filed in Brooklyn federal court. It says he secretly worked for unnamed handlers from the Chinese consulate in New York.

https://archive.vn/bpSii

A 33-year-old NYPD officer and ethnic Tibetan native of China has been arrested for allegedly acting as an agent of a foreign government, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said Monday.

The cop, Baimadajie Angwang, who is a naturalized U.S. citizen and patrol officer with the 111th precinct in Queens, is also accused of lying about his foreign contacts, the complaint said. He allegedly was engaged in the espionage-related activity from May 2018 through his arrest.

Angwang faces charges including acting as an agent of a foreign government without prior notification to the attorney general, wire fraud, making false statements about his contacts and obstruction of an official proceeding.

https://archive.vn/uJ7oM

 

[Archeopthryx]

I wonder if this will make the US government investigate AOC's foreign political connections?

 

[Pixy]

NEW YORK (AP) — A New York City police officer was charged on Monday with being an “intelligence asset” for the Chinese government who agreed to spy on U.S. supporters of the Tibetan independence movement.
Baimadajie Angwang, a naturalized U.S. citizen from Tibet, worked since 2018 as an agent for the People’s Republic of China in its effort to suppress the movement, according to a criminal complaint filed in Brooklyn federal court. It says he secretly worked for unnamed handlers from the Chinese consulate in New York.
There was no allegation that Angwang compromised national security or New York Police Department operations. Still, he was considered “the definition of an insider threat,” William Sweeney, head of the FBI’s New York office, said in a statement.

We had an A&N thread on this a bit ago. The way things appear, based on the reporting, is that he went through the effort of becoming an 'insider threat' by himself.

 

[Punished Magician]

I know all about how terrible the CCP/People's Republic is, but I didn't really know much about anything bad on the KMT/RoC's part, aside from some stupid decisions during WWII (like preventing civilian population of a town from fleeing ahead of a Japanese invasion, I guess they thought a ton of defenseless civilians would make the town harder to take over or something? idiots costed many people their lives), and suppression of communists (and probably anyone who so much as sneezed in the general direction of socialism, knowing how harsh anti-communism generally was during the cold war) once they were stuck with just ruling Taiwan, because they didn't want to lose that as well.
I saw some people briefly mentioning some unsavory stuff from the KMT earlier in the thread, is there anywhere you'd recommend I'd read about that stuff from?

On another note, China really needs to fucking learn to stop picking a fight with so many countries at once. Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea don't like them, lots of the world is against them after what they did in Hong Kong, and thry've even pissed off Vietnam, their fucking Communist neighbor. You'd think they'd have learned their lesson back in 1979, not to fuck with vietnam. They don't have as much support as they think they do, either. For example, they've been trying to win over Bangladesh with lots of gifts - but so has India. Bangladesh seems perfectly content to let the two countries fight over them as long as the stuff keeps coming in (because Bangladesh isn't exactly a well-off country), and making a choice when there's no real need to would cut the flow of goodies into their country. If they were ever forced to choose, though, which do you think they'd go with? The generally friendly country that surrounds them, or the one who's close with Pakistan (the country they had to fight for their independence from) and only really came into the picture recently?