US First Presidental Debate - Boomerdome 2020

WELCOME TO THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES!!!
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Time: Starts at 6:10-6:30pm to 7:40-8pm PST / 8:10-8:30pm to 9:40-10pm CST / 9:10-9:30pm-10:40-11pm EST

Where to watch:


Location: Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland

Moderator: Chris Wallace, anchor of “Fox News Sunday”


Competitors:

Former Vice President Joe Biden

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President Donald Trump
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Details: The debate will be 90 minutes long and have no commercial breaks. There will be no opening statements, and instead Wallace will dive right in with the first question to Trump. It will be divided into six 15-minute segments that Wallace has chosen. They are:
1) The Trump and Biden records;
2) The Supreme Court;
3) Covid-19;
4) the economy;
5) race and violence in cities;
6) the integrity of the election.


After the debates a poll will be posted on who you think won this first debate. Have lots of fun, keep the commentary fresh as I'm sure we've all heard many of the same lines for months and enjoy the beginning of the end of this presidential election cycle. Just as a reminder, on October 7th there will be a Vice Presidential debate between Kamala Harris and Mike Pence at the University of Utah in Salt Lake City, Utah.
You can view Joe Biden's megathread here, and Donald Trump's megathread here

Previous Democratic debates-
First Democratic debate (two nights)
Second Democratic debate
Third Democratic debate
Fourth Democratic debate
Fifth Democratic debate
Sixth Democratic debate
Seventh Democratic debate
Eighth Democratic debate
Ninth Democratic debate
Tenth Democratic debate
Eleventh Democratic Debate

Democratic primary results-
Super Tuesday
Mini-super Tuesday

Have fun!
 
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So on a scale from 1 to 10, how would you rate the debate performances?

Trump?

Biden?

Cuck Wallace?
Trump - 4
He went way too far with the interrupting and turned this into a train wreck instead of an evisceration of Biden. I understand why, but it was excessive. It will go over well with Trump's base, but I don't see casuals watching this and thinking anything but Trump is a dick.

Biden - 2
Only above a 1 because he didn't blatantly fuck up or nearly die. There's no way anyone can honestly think he's capable of being President or hold any public office. He's so weak and out of it.

Wallace - 8
His role was to shit on Trump and aid Biden through the tough parts, and he did that well. This debate will be remembered more for Trump v. Wallace, and that's exactly what was planned.

Overall, slight win for Trump that might give him a .5 boost in polls only because voters siding with Generic D have to see Biden is a dying old man.
 
lol not really. A whole lot of centrist rightwingers just got a massive redpill on (((Chris Wallace))) and (((Fox News))). Especially on the whole "WH*TE NATIONALISTS ARE AS BAD AS ANTIFA GOY!" redpill.
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How about I blow your mind and say that this is due to the same reason black people aren't in these kinds of positions--that Jewish families tend to focus on academic achievements and have very strong and positive family ties and relations, and not some conspiracy or anything sinister?
 
So, it's over.

Well that was fucking interesting. I had a fun time watching this tonight. The two of them going at very much lived up to the hype. I was fucking dying over at some parts. Biden saying SHUT UP and Trump's sarcasm in some parts was really fucking funny. I could watch these two old-timers going at it for days. They were both flawed in a couple of ways and they succeeded in some ways. Here's my "brief" analysis:

Overall, I think Zion Don did a better job at the debate than Biden. Both of them interrupted the moderator a lot, Trump a lot more so (especially near the beginning), but I think Trump was better at being able to dominate and really tug at some of the tougher Biden criticisms. Chris Wallace was a decent moderator, he asked a fair amount of tough questions (although a lot of the "tough" questions he gave Trump were stuff that wasn't really that important unlike the questions he gave Biden which were integral to policy or whatnot) although he's kind of a pushover in some ways, but he had a little humor to it. Didn't mind that. There were some questions that Trump didn't really answer, the same with Biden in certain cases. Every time Trump (except for 1 question where he stuttered quite a bit) didn't really answer, he would go at some other answer adjacent or tangential to the topic at hand. Biden, most of the time just stumbled. Especially on the law enforcement thing, it was absolutely fucking embarrassing when Trump asked the nigga "Name 1 group that supports you" and Biden couldn't fucking answer it right off the bat.

I think both of them have a lot to work on before the next debate, I can't wait for that, but Biden needs to step it up a little. Act more domineering in a sense. There was only one time where I feel like Biden almost got at Trump (I think it was on the condemning shit or something? Where Trump stuttered and asked "well what group?"), but even then, it fell apart near the end. Trump needs to debunk some of the fake shit that Biden says out of his mouth in terms of the "very fine people" shit or whatever. I know he wants to focus more on shitting on Biden's policy, but I think there were some missed opportunities for him to fight back on that shit. Not only that, answer the question they ask you. Trump screwed up near the end on the supporter's question by going back to adding on to his previous question and Biden answered it and shit. Don't make a fuck up like that. He did better overall, but you can't fuck up at the end. Ending makes an impact. Trump was doing good at the end, until he didn't answer that final question. I know voter fraud's an important issue, but a simple statement was all you had to say, Zion Don. Come on now.
 
So on a scale from 1 to 10, how would you rate the debate performances?

Trump?

Biden?

Cuck Wallace?
Trump: 6. Motherfucker needs to realize he's debating a slimelord politician on medication. Being annoying and spergy might piss off Hilldawg but it's overkill against Joe and just makes him look autistic. He also fell for Biden's laughs and "that's not true"s too many times. The interrupting has t stop. It's funny for pundits and autists but is going to annoy normies. Plenty of soundbytes and memes will be had though. I am legit surprised he didn't mention Biden's dementia at all.

Biden: 0. Drooling and stumbling.
Biden's earpiece: 7. Whoever was feeding him lines has studied Trump's unorthodox debate tactics and had valid counter-tactics. They applied Trump's own poison against him and it went as good as it could have gone considering the mouthpiece is a demented old man. That said, they need more substance. The earpiece didn't say a damn thing that wasn't a vague derailment and "Orange Man bad".

Cuck Wallace: 8 for his knob polishing, but making Biden disavow the lefty GND is going to cost him that juicy bonus.
4 for his actual moderating skills though. He couldn't establish his authority and instead ate the bait that was meant for Joe. Though that was probably part of the plan.
 
Personally, I wouldn't say there was any winner in tonight's debate. There was certainly a loser, though: Joe Biden.

Trump is not going to lose any voters tonight ... And if he's going to gain any votes after tonight, then it's going to be a very small amount. The left voting base seems to be absolutely deflated right now, though ... Joe lost some votes tonight, I think.

And as for independents ... I don't see them going out to vote for Joe in big numbers after this.
 
Joe came to the debates and he held his soft ground, but he got buried. Thankfully, Wallace dug him out sometimes.

And with interrupting, where is Biden's backbone? Take Trump head-on, you senile clown! Beat Trump down at his own game, and make him shut up for once. But Joe couldn't do that...
Biden's whole schtick is that he's a "traditional candidate." Interrupting Trump would be self-defeating because it would go against the image he's trying to portray.
 
Biden misspoke and referred to his own plan as the green new deal before walking it back, which I thought was funny.

He also said no new coal or oil plants, which I don’t think Pennsylvania or West Virginia are going to find very funny.

He also said he was going to repeal the Trump tax cut which makes him even more of a senile moron than I thought.

Real talk though, Trump did okay, Biden did way better than expected but lied through his fucking teeth. He repeated the “fine people” line, he parroted the claim that Trump berated the military while categorically denying his own “bastard” comment that’s on goddamn tape.

He made a major mistake going hard on mail-in votes showing that not only are his handlers behind on Trump’s movement, they’re behind in their own party line as well. Any moderate even dimly aware of the Veritas leaks is going to have a hard time with Biden insisting that there hasn’t been any verified fraud, or that the system isn’t vulnerable.
 
Trump: 6. Motherfucker needs to realize he's debating a slimelord politician on medication. Being annoying and spergy might piss off Hilldawg but it's overkill against Joe and just makes him look autistic. He also fell for Biden's laughs and "that's not true"s too many times. The interrupting has t stop. It's funny for pundits and autists but is going to annoy normies. Plenty of soundbytes and memes will be had though. I am legit surprised he didn't mention Biden's dementia at all.

Biden: 0. Drooling and stumbling.
Biden's earpiece: 7. Whoever was feeding him lines has studied Trump's unorthodox debate tactics and had valid counter-tactics. They applied Trump's own poison against him and it went as good as it could have gone considering the mouthpiece is a demented old man. That said, they need more substance. The earpiece didn't say a damn thing that wasn't a vague derailment and "Orange Man bad".

Cuck Wallace: 8 for his knob polishing, but making Biden disavow the lefty GND is going to cost him that juicy bonus.
4 for his actual moderating skills though. He couldn't establish his authority and instead ate the bait that was meant for Joe. Though that was probably part of the plan.

Did we watch the same debate? Trump came off as a manchild who couldn't defend any of his lies.
 
Neg rate me or whatever but Trump did fucking awful and clearly doesn't understand even the most basic rules of a debate. I can't stand Joe Biden but Trump did so piss poor at that that he made Joe's bumbling and shady ass look "good" by comparison.
At this point introducing and upholding any rules would just make the show less fun, and that's what all of this is.

It's a show.

Damn funny one, though.
 
This wasn't a debate between Trump and Biden.

It was a fucking debate between Trump and Wallace.

They all lost, but Wallace lost the most because he wasn't even supposed to be fucking participating in the first place.
I can't imagine anybody thinks Wallace looks good right now. Even people insisting Biden won are going to blame him for being too weak to contain Drumpf the big bully.
 
After tonight, do you think Biden even agrees to the seconds and third debates or just says that they are a waste of time?
Waste of time and I wouldn't blame him. As much as I like Trump he came off looking like a baffoon to so many apolitical audiences and was baited into shouting out the proud boys while allowing Biden to be scot-free from disavowing antifa.
 
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