2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

Odds on Sleepy Joe using "I won't dignify a racist with an answer" when stuck?

 

[Harvey Danger]

Edit: What on earth are these headlines?

 

[StarkRavingMad]

I'm going to reiterate the thing that I said a couple of pages ago:

I anticipate this debate being more Trump vs. Wallace rather than Trump vs. Biden. I can easily see Biden pulling a "I'm not going to dignify this racist with an answer," and I can see Wallace allowing him to do that without any sort of pushback. And then Trump is going to focus his anger on Wallace for letting Biden basically keep giving non-answers.

While I would prefer for the debate to end up with Trump just eviscerating Dementia Joe, my prediction on how the debate will go will probably swing in Trump's favor, too. Sure, NPCs with Trump Derangement Syndrome will probably say that Trump is being a bully towards the moderator, but Independents will notice Biden dodging questions.

 

[Ita Mori]

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Guess they're still asssore how the Clinton News Network did Bernard.

 

[JEB!]

I'm going to reiterate the thing that I said a couple of pages ago:

I anticipate this debate being more Trump vs. Wallace

Good call

 

[Harvey Danger]

Rumors, lies, or gay ops? Funny how they didn't issue the denial earlier, when it would've brought the issue to the attention of more people.

 

[Lolcow Imperium]

lmao debate was mostly Trump vs moderator

 

[Bartleby]

I'm going to reiterate the thing that I said a couple of pages ago:

I anticipate this debate being more Trump vs. Wallace rather than Trump vs. Biden. I can easily see Biden pulling a "I'm not going to dignify this racist with an answer," and I can see Wallace allowing him to do that without any sort of pushback. And then Trump is going to focus his anger on Wallace for letting Biden basically keep giving non-answers.

While I would prefer for the debate to end up with Trump just eviscerating Dementia Joe, my prediction on how the debate will go will probably swing in Trump's favor, too. Sure, NPCs with Trump Derangement Syndrome will probably say that Trump is being a bully towards the moderator, but Independents will notice Biden dodging questions.

Bingo, though it's not very surprising considering Wallace's track record. Honestly, I never had the impression that these debates will change much of anything, especially in such a polarized political climate where there are more people who will say X won because X is on their side. If I try to look past my bias, I'd say that Biden flip-flopped too much and never said anything too substantial, while Trump was probably a little too aggressive for normalfags. Whatever the case, these debates will probably affect Biden more (if there's any effect at all) due to Trump being the incumbent, it's not like him being very assertive is news to anyone, while there's probably a lot of people who haven't seen or heard Biden speak too much before these debates. As for whether that effect is positive or negative... I find it hard to believe it's the former, especially with Wallace being such a faggot and thus making Trump look like the underdog, but at the very least Biden didn't have a complete mental breakdown, so could have been worse for him (though he did have the usual gaffes of course).

 

[XtrmGamr719]

lmao debate was mostly Trump vs moderator

That white supremacist question was so fucking loaded. I don’t think there was anything Trump could’ve done with that.

 

[heyitsmike]

That white supremacist question was so fucking loaded. I don’t think there was anything Trump could’ve done with that.

A lot of hot takes saying Trump refused to answer the question. He specifically asked what group he should address. That's the whole issue with the left, they'll call out general, nebulous violence, but refuse to specifically name Antifa or BLM. And somehow that's Trump not answering the question?

 

[The Pink Panther]

A lot of hot takes saying Trump refused to answer the question. He specifically asked what group he should address. That's the whole issue with the left, they'll call out general, nebulous violence, but refuse to specifically name Antifa or BLM. And somehow that's Trump not answering the question?

I think he could've phrased it a little better. By saying I condemn white supremacy (fucking loaded as shit, bro), but also adding on by saying "who do you want me to condemn". He could've taken a shot at Biden there by saying that he doesn't condemn ANTIFA as well (even though he already did that). He stuttered for a moment before he came up with that sort of answer though, so that gave a little leeway on his part for Biden and Wallace to get over 'em for a second. Could've done better.

 

[Boobie Bomb]

All of these whores need to suck BBC!

 

[murdered meat bag]

All of these whores need to suck BBC!

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they did this in 2016. say trump said the elections rigged because he's doing poorly then REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE for 4 years because trump won and the election was rigged.

 

[Bibendum]

Biden did better than expected in the debate, but his slippage is still apparent. IMHO, Trump came off too aggressively at first, openly squabbling with the moderator and interrupting too frequently. I actually thought Trump did his best on the environment segment. He got some good zingers in, but he should've chilled a bit and saved the passion for making more cogent points during his allotted time instead of incoherently yelling over Biden/Wallace during theirs. Some constructive criticism that I think Trump's debate team should address going forward:

• Since nominating ACB, he's left himself open to the charge of ripping health care coverage away from people with pre-existing conditions. Yes, he did sign an EO protecting PECs, but legislation is still necessary to enforce it, and if SCOTUS were to declare the ACA unconstitutional and block the feds from regulating insurance companies in that way, that EO will mean nothing. Over 80%+ of the public support protecting those with PECs, so it makes Trump look bad when his actions undermine his own claim of "always protecting" those people. The Dems will hammer him on this and he doesn't really seem to have a convincing response to this charge yet.
• After all his pandering to POC, he didn't effectively address what he's done for those communities. When the race segment came up, he was so anxious to pivot to riots/law & order that he completely neglected to mention the policies his administration has enacted to improve POC lives. He had plenty of time to talk about the riots when those questions came up, but he lost the opportunity to appeal directly to the demographics he so desperately wants to capture.
• He should've explicitly said "yes, of course I condemn white supremacists." What he actually said was perfectly reasonable in context, but the media is already running headlines saying "Trump refused to condemn white supremacists," and it would've been so simple to just say it outright and deny them the opportunity to run with that bullshit.
• He missed out on the obvious counter to Biden bringing up Charlottesville, which is that while terrible, one day and one death don't hold a tiki torch to the months of sustained, deadly rioting carried out by the left.

 

[Xx_Retard Faggot 1488_xX]

End of the day, the biggest problem is, ding ding ding, the media. All Biden needs to do as defense is say Trump's claims are a lie, the media will take care of the rest. Biden Calls each one of trumps claims a lie, then makes even less reputable claims following, including the military claim which was already disproved and admitted to be a lie.

The right won't have peace until the media is tamed, it is the single most powerful group in the world aside from Soros and the like, when not considering them an arm of them.

 

[murdered meat bag]

Biden did better than expected in the debate, but his slippage is still apparent. IMHO, Trump came off too aggressively at first, openly squabbling with the moderator and interrupting too frequently. I actually thought Trump did his best on the environment segment. He got some good zingers in, but he should've chilled a bit and saved the passion for making more cogent points during his allotted time instead of incoherently yelling over Biden/Wallace during theirs. Some constructive criticism that I think Trump's debate team should address going forward:

• Since nominating ACB, he's left himself open to the charge of ripping health care coverage away from people with pre-existing conditions. Yes, he did sign an EO protecting PECs, but legislation is still necessary to enforce it, and if SCOTUS were to declare the ACA unconstitutional and block the feds from regulating insurance companies in that way, that EO will mean nothing. Over 80%+ of the public support protecting those with PECs, so it makes Trump look bad when his actions undermine his own claim of "always protecting" those people. The Dems will hammer him on this and he doesn't really seem to have a convincing response to this charge yet.
• After all his pandering to POC, he didn't effectively address what he's done for those communities. When the race segment came up, he was so anxious to pivot to riots/law & order that he completely neglected to mention the policies his administration has enacted to improve POC lives. He had plenty of time to talk about the riots when those questions came up, but he lost the opportunity to appeal directly to the demographics he so desperately wants to capture.
• He should've explicitly said "yes, of course I condemn white supremacists." What he actually said was perfectly reasonable in context, but the media is already running headlines saying "Trump refused to condemn white supremacists," and it would've been so simple to just say it outright and deny them the opportunity to run with that bullshit.

If ACA is unconstitutional, it's congress' fault for making a shit law. the health care in my state is garbage, a ton of no name companies and 1 big one that offers poor insurance not accepted by many of the larger hospitals here. But i pay out the ass for a middling one.

 

[heyitsmike]

Biden did better than expected in the debate, but his slippage is still apparent. IMHO, Trump came off too aggressively at first, openly squabbling with the moderator and interrupting too frequently. I actually thought Trump did his best on the environment segment. He got some good zingers in, but he should've chilled a bit and saved the passion for making more cogent points during his allotted time instead of incoherently yelling over Biden/Wallace during theirs. Some constructive criticism that I think Trump's debate team should address going forward:

• Since nominating ACB, he's left himself open to the charge of ripping health care coverage away from people with pre-existing conditions. Yes, he did sign an EO protecting PECs, but legislation is still necessary to enforce it, and if SCOTUS were to declare the ACA unconstitutional and block the feds from regulating insurance companies in that way, that EO will mean nothing. Over 80%+ of the public support protecting those with PECs, so it makes Trump look bad when his actions undermine his own claim of "always protecting" those people. The Dems will hammer him on this and he doesn't really seem to have a convincing response to this charge yet.
• After all his pandering to POC, he didn't effectively address what he's done for those communities. When the race segment came up, he was so anxious to pivot to riots/law & order that he completely neglected to mention the policies his administration has enacted to improve POC lives. He had plenty of time to talk about the riots when those questions came up, but he lost the opportunity to appeal directly to the demographics he so desperately wants to capture.
• He should've explicitly said "yes, of course I condemn white supremacists." What he actually said was perfectly reasonable in context, but the media is already running headlines saying "Trump refused to condemn white supremacists," and it would've been so simple to just say it outright and deny them the opportunity to run with that bullshit.

I agree with basically all of this. There's a lot of things he could have said differently or more precisely, but it's extemporaneous speech. I feel a lot of people demand surgical precision when other people are off the cuff, but never themselves.

Biden did do a lot better than I thought. They must have pumped him so full of drugs. I could definitely notice he stumbled over words a lot more in the last thirty minutes though. If this was a two hour debate he might have been in trouble. But he still has to make it through three more.

I think Trump's secret weapon is going to be Mike Pence in the VP debate though.

 

[Iceland Heavy]

Biden did better than expected in the debate, but his slippage is still apparent. IMHO, Trump came off too aggressively at first, openly squabbling with the moderator and interrupting too frequently. I actually thought Trump did his best on the environment segment. He got some good zingers in, but he should've chilled a bit and saved the passion for making more cogent points during his allotted time instead of incoherently yelling over Biden/Wallace during theirs. Some constructive criticism that I think Trump's debate team should address going forward:

• Since nominating ACB, he's left himself open to the charge of ripping health care coverage away from people with pre-existing conditions. Yes, he did sign an EO protecting PECs, but legislation is still necessary to enforce it, and if SCOTUS were to declare the ACA unconstitutional and block the feds from regulating insurance companies in that way, that EO will mean nothing. Over 80%+ of the public support protecting those with PECs, so it makes Trump look bad when his actions undermine his own claim of "always protecting" those people. The Dems will hammer him on this and he doesn't really seem to have a convincing response to this charge yet.
• After all his pandering to POC, he didn't effectively address what he's done for those communities. When the race segment came up, he was so anxious to pivot to riots/law & order that he completely neglected to mention the policies his administration has enacted to improve POC lives. He had plenty of time to talk about the riots when those questions came up, but he lost the opportunity to appeal directly to the demographics he so desperately wants to capture.
• He should've explicitly said "yes, of course I condemn white supremacists." What he actually said was perfectly reasonable in context, but the media is already running headlines saying "Trump refused to condemn white supremacists," and it would've been so simple to just say it outright and deny them the opportunity to run with that bullshit.

I've never been the biggest fan of Trump's speaking style and I definitely agree that he missed several opportunities to articulate a good defense of himself and/or a good counter to Biden/Wallace because of it. Best thing he did was force Biden to squirm out of positions his progressive voters wanted while not budging on his own positions.

 

[Harvey Danger]

That white supremacist question was so fucking loaded. I don’t think there was anything Trump could’ve done with that.

"I've been condemning white supremacy for 5 years now. I did it at Charlottesville too! But the people burning down cities aren't white supremacists, they're radical leftists. Why don't you ask this other guy to tell leftists to stand down?"

 

[Boobie Bomb]

Ross O'Donovan being a retard as always.