US First Presidental Debate - Boomerdome 2020

ddlloo · Sep 30, 2020

Dilbertman not a happy camper today.

Generally having a minor sperg out but also not happy with trump's non denunciation of White Supremacy, which to be fair should have been the easiest 5 seconds of the debate for Trump: "I completely denounce white supremacy and white supremacists, as I have said before - there are you happy?"

Getting tard comed · Sep 30, 2020

ddlloo said:
Dilbertman not a happy camper today.

Generally having a minor sperg out but also not happy with trump's non denunciation of White Supremacy, which to be fair should have been the easiest 5 seconds of the debate for Trump: "I completely denounce white supremacy and white supremacists, as I have said before - there are you happy?"

That's surprising to hear tbh. I would think persuasion guy would have loved the Trump was by far the only "man" in the room.

Edit: Also, you know America is way too far gone when nobody seems to care that Biden is looking for equity and not equality. Scary that isn't a big deal anywhere from what I'm seeing.

Corn Flakes · Sep 30, 2020

ddlloo said:
Dilbertman not a happy camper today.

Generally having a minor sperg out but also not happy with trump's non denunciation of White Supremacy, which to be fair should have been the easiest 5 seconds of the debate for Trump: "I completely denounce white supremacy and white supremacists, as I have said before - there are you happy?"

Would Trump even have the time to say all these words? Both Wallace and Biden were trying to talk over him through all of it, and Wallace immediately pushed the subject away while Trump was still talking.

MarvinTheParanoidAndroid · Sep 30, 2020

Troonos said:
How do you figure? How are they not both dragging us along a slow road to authoritarianism. How are they not both unwilling to give up our tax revenue? How are they not both unwilling to give up an inch of the power we've given them? How are they not both desecrating the Constitution on a daily basis?

What a bunch of empty rhetorical questions. What authoritarianism? What violations of the Constitution? What about giving up tax revenue? None of this nonsense means anything substantial, and that's why I called you a contrarian.

Troonos said:
How were both candidates in the debate not equally incoherent and frivolous last night. There is essentially no difference anymore, but nice misrepresentation, you actual mongoloid.

Somehow I doubt you could even cite a single talking point from the debate or who even said what.

Not Really Here · Sep 30, 2020

ddlloo said:
Dilbertman not a happy camper today.

Generally having a minor sperg out but also not happy with trump's non denunciation of White Supremacy, which to be fair should have been the easiest 5 seconds of the debate for Trump: "I completely denounce white supremacy and white supremacists, as I have said before - there are you happy?"

Please explain how yet another denunciation of white supremacists, does anything for people who still ignore his denunciation of them at C-ville, and his calling the antifa mob fine people.

The fact that question was even asked, rather than about the ME peace deals (Trump Nobel Peace prize nomination counter is at 3) is one of the most glaring examples of Chris Wallace's biased incompetence.

Dark Edea · Sep 30, 2020

Trump was a loud, obnoxious dude pushing every weakness and trying to get in every open door he could find.

That is unironically what I want from my leader and what we need. We don't need leadership that leaves money on the table. Get everything you can and don't settle for managed decline.

Our rivals certainly won't.

HTTP Error 404 · Sep 30, 2020

feral cat #6385 said:
Polls only exist to shape the way people think. That's its only 50% should tell you something.

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They want to keep it within the margin of error because "It was close but in the end Trump lost by 1%" is much more believable (when the fix is in) than "Trump was up by 10 points and somehow magically we found 11 points in the Trunk of this car."

AGreatDipAtAFairPrice · Sep 30, 2020

If a debate is a clown show, that means everybody is a clown. Joe Biden and Chris Wallace were most certainly acting up and behaving like clowns last night, too. I consider a debate where the typical person will bemoan all three of them as bozos who were throwing lemon meringue pies at each other for an hour and a half to be at least a push for President Trump. He's the Clown Prince after all.

ChikN10der · Sep 30, 2020

Chris Wallace will get that biden interview now.

Trump could have been more focussed and finished a thought. He didn't explain much, so you'd have to know the issues pretty well to know what he was even talking about. He bullied Joe the whole time, I dunno if that was a plus or minus, but I don't think he got Joe to crack like he hoped.

Biden was a slippery politician, he got lost a couple times and stuttered a couple times, but nothing major. I think Chris Wallace might have saved him once or twice, but it's hard to judge him on what might have happened.

Overall, I don't think Trump used the debate very well and I doubt he'll get any bump in polling. Biden was forced to step away from some progressive stuff, hard to judge at this point if that matters.

Trump declined to say he'd respect the results of the election, I don't like that. I get where he's coming from but how hard would it have been to say "but at the end of the day of course we'll accept the results.
He handed biden an easy win there to say "no matter what he says, whoever is elected will be president." Biden may have ironically taken some of the wind out of the sails of the "Trump won't leave office" thing.

HTTP Error 404 · Sep 30, 2020

Seeing the spin post debate, Based Dilbert Merchant seems to have soured a bit on Trump.

MarvinTheParanoidAndroid · Sep 30, 2020

SojuDrnkr said:
I think the worst thing one of Trump's kids did was hunt an endangered Rhino.

Was this rhino in the wild or was it one of the old fuckers they keep in captivity that gores other rhinos because it's senile? Isolating dangerous rhinos and slating them to be hunted and killed is a thing they do in Africa, so context matters in this regard for me.

Idiotron · Sep 30, 2020

I'm about half way through watching the debate and this is pathetic.
So-called "greatest nation on the planet" and this is the best they have to offer?
This feels more like a geriatric PG version of internet bloodsports than a presidential debate.
Want to see how a presidential debate should look like?
Here you go:

The quality of US presidential candidates fell through the floor over the last 60 years.

Troonos · Sep 30, 2020

MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
What a bunch of empty rhetorical questions. What authoritarianism? What violations of the Constitution? What about giving up tax revenue? None of this nonsense means anything substantial, and that's why I called you a contrarian.

Somehow I doubt you could even cite a single talking point from the debate or who even said what.

Are you insane or just willfully blind? Let's see...

First Amendment:
-Freedom of Speech - he blocked people on Twitter and was successfully sued for it as a violation of the public's free speech. He called for the punishment of flag burning, which is constitutionally-protected speech.
-Freedom of Press - from the office of the leader of the executive branch, he labels the media "enemies of the people". He threatened to raise shipping costs for Amazon because they own Washington Post which expressed opinions against him. He pushed to block the merger of AT&T and Time Warner because Time Warner owns CNN, which expressed opinions against him. He threatened to expand libel laws to punish journalists who criticized him.
-Freedom of Religion - He banned migrants from countries because they have a specific religious majority. He called for the closure of US mosques after the Paris terrorist attacks.

Second Amendment:
-He abused his power and issued an executive order to ban bump stocks and seize people's private property if they own one.
-He tweeted support for an AR-15 ban.
-He endorses Red Flag laws that bypass due process (see 5th and 14th amendments) and violate people's gun rights.

That's only two constitutional amendments. Need I go on, you retarded faggot?

Astro Galactic Megalul · Sep 30, 2020

So I watched the whole thing, anyone who thinks it's a loss for Trump is lying to themselves and everyone around them. To me it looked like a win for him, he walked all over Biden.
Even if Trump didn't gain anything in this debate (which I disagree with), Biden most definitely lost quite a bit. He looked weak, and most of his rebuttals were pathetic.
It's not a fucking tie, not by a long shot. Trump didn't retreat on a single position, yet managed to force Biden backpedal in multiple instances, such as defunding the police and Green New Deal.

I'm surprised by the lack of questions related to foreign policy, though, where Trump and his team greatly succeeded. What's up with that?

Not Really Here · Sep 30, 2020

ChikN10der said:
Chris Wallace will get that biden interview now.

Trump could have been more focussed and finished a thought. He didn't explain much, so you'd have to know the issues pretty well to know what he was even talking about. He bullied Joe the whole time, I dunno if that was a plus or minus, but I don't think he got Joe to crack like he hoped.

Biden was a slippery politician, he got lost a couple times and stuttered a couple times, but nothing major. I think Chris Wallace might have saved him once or twice, but it's hard to judge him on what might have happened.

Wallace saved Biden far more than "once or twice", Wallace covered up Biden cracking on Hunter, on police endorsements, on O'care vs Universal ect.

ChikN10der said:
Overall, I don't think Trump used the debate very well and I doubt he'll get any bump in polling. Biden was forced to step away from some progressive stuff, hard to judge at this point if that matters.

Polling isn't released if Trump gets a bump.

ChikN10der said:
Trump declined to say he'd respect the results of the election, I don't like that. I get where he's coming from but how hard would it have been to say "but at the end of the day of course we'll accept the results.
He handed biden an easy win there to say "no matter what he says, whoever is elected will be president." Biden may have ironically taken some of the wind out of the sails of the "Trump won't leave office" thing.

When people who didn't respect the results of the last election, ask YOU if you will respect the results, you can either hammer them on their hypocrisy or ignore it.
'Respect the results of the election!'
'What about that video of ballots voting for me in a dumpster?'
'Fascist!'

MembersSchoolPizza · Sep 30, 2020

Troonos said:
First Amendment:
-Freedom of Speech - he blocked people on Twitter and was successfully sued for it as a violation of the public's free speech. .

I'm sorry, that was the biggest fucking bullshit ruling in the history of bullshit rulings, and you fucking well know it.

jje100010001 · Sep 30, 2020

Not Really Here said:
Please explain how yet another denunciation of white supremacists, does anything for people who still ignore his denunciation of them at C-ville, and his calling the antifa mob fine people.

The fact that question was even asked, rather than about the ME peace deals (Trump Nobel Peace prize nomination counter is at 3) is one of the most glaring examples of Chris Wallace's biased incompetence.

I'd say the issue is that he basically unintentionally claimed ownership of the Proud Boys by 'ordering' them to stand down.

Of course any thinking person would know that Trump has nothing to do with them, but it gives the progressive firestorm more fuel for the whole white supremacist BS.

Overall, I'd say that Trump was as expected, if overly aggressive against the Biden-Wallace tag team (like what some others have said, should have given Biden more rope to hang himself), while Biden mildly surpassed expectations by not immediately collapsing into a puddle of goo, though he was starting to get there half-way through.

Few votes will be shifted though by the first debate- I hope we'll get a second debate, since Trump usually improves by then if we go by 2016.

Not Really Here · Sep 30, 2020

MembersSchoolPizza said:
I'm sorry, that was the biggest fucking bullshit ruling in the history of bullshit rulings, and you fucking well know it.

'I hereby rule that Trump's twitter account, that he personally owns and predates his political life, is government property and that Trump can't block people.'
When did the government pay him for seizing his 84 million follower account?

Dom Cruise · Sep 30, 2020

ddlloo said:
Dilbertman not a happy camper today.

Generally having a minor sperg out but also not happy with trump's non denunciation of White Supremacy, which to be fair should have been the easiest 5 seconds of the debate for Trump: "I completely denounce white supremacy and white supremacists, as I have said before - there are you happy?"

Even I'm a little weirded out by that and wonder where this might be going.

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Seeing the spin post debate, Based Dilbert Merchant seems to have soured a bit on Trump.

I'm a bit soured on Trump as well, I didn't think he came off great either, the whole debate was so much bickering and arguing, it came off very unprofessional, the absolute state of America in 2020.

That said I've already cast a ballot for Trump, but I am a bit worried about his chances of actually winning now.

ChikN10der · Sep 30, 2020

Troonos said:
Are you insane or just willfully blind? Let's see...

First Amendment:
-Freedom of Speech - he blocked people on Twitter and was successfully sued for it as a violation of the public's free speech. He called for the punishment of flag burning, which is constitutionally-protected speech.
-Freedom of Press - from the office of the leader of the executive branch, he labels the media "enemies of the people". He threatened to raise shipping costs for Amazon because they own Washington Post which expressed opinions against him. He pushed to block the merger of AT&T and Time Warner because Time Warner owns CNN, which expressed opinions against him. He threatened to expand libel laws to punish journalists who criticized him.
-Freedom of Religion - He banned migrants from countries because they have a specific religious majority. He called for the closure of US mosques after the Paris terrorist attacks.

Second Amendment:
-He abused his power and issued an executive order to ban bump stocks and seize people's private property if they own one.
-He tweeted support for an AR-15 ban.
-He endorses Red Flag laws that bypass due process (see 5th and 14th amendments) and violate people's gun rights.

That's only two constitutional amendments. Need I go on, you retarded faggot?

Lol, so Trump did things, the court said some were unconstitutional so what did he do? Did he ignore the courts or did he follow their rulings?
And if Trump is bad on the second amendment... Have you seen the democrats? Same question on the first amendment...

Calling the press enemies of the people is not against the first amendment you retard, its literally protected by it.

US First Presidental Debate - Boomerdome 2020

ddlloo

Getting tard comed

Corn Flakes

Battle Creek's Finest.

MarvinTheParanoidAndroid

This will all end in tears, I just know it.

Not Really Here

Dark Edea

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AGreatDipAtAFairPrice

ChikN10der

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MarvinTheParanoidAndroid

This will all end in tears, I just know it.

Idiotron

The last sane person on Earth

Troonos

Regrettable Cake Farts

Astro Galactic Megalul

Bigot Sandwich Connoisseur

Not Really Here

MembersSchoolPizza

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jje100010001

Not Really Here

Dom Cruise

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