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Robert James said:
Ok but like for real, if we fought with the germans do you think we could of killed off the commies that caused the societal rot we are suffering from?
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There's no way in hell that the US would ever side with the Germans in WW2.

Most likely just being isolationist and Germany not allying with Japan (so if Japan does Pearl Harbor it would be a US thing only). In that case WW2 in Europe would probably be longer, even more brutal, and be a toss up between the Soviets or Germans.

If Germans win, just think of TWRmod's alternate history scenario or something. Germans and Italians have hegemony over Europe, Russia is balkanized, but most of European Russia is ruled by the Germans, etc. The Soviets aren't truly defeated but it basically spells the end of communism as a influential ideology around the world and its now fascism.

Basically a Cold War between Liberals (USA and UK) and Fascists (Germany and Italy).
An example map is in the files.

If anything an Axis victory in WW2 would even mean more Leftism rising in the US, like a reverse McCarthyism. So probably you get Drag Queen story time by the 1980s, lol.
 

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Northern Blockhead said:
It's not exactly strange when you consider why the term 'Judeo-Christian' was invented and that evangelical Christians in general (especially the hardcore ones) are super supportive of Israel: Israel as a Jewish state is important in bringing about the end times prophecy and the second coming of Christ.

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I often think about evangelicals and their opinions, interesting.

Though that's not why it was invented though. Unless you have some better sources than I do, but last time I checked 'judeo christian' originally meant "Jews converted to christianity".

It was then later repurposed during the cold war to get christians behind israel and ostensibly to get jews behind the US.

KiwiJoe said:
If anything an Axis victory in WW2 would even mean more Leftism rising in the US, like a reverse McCarthyism. So probably you get Drag Queen story time by the 1980s, lol.
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I don't think so. If for whatever reason the US had aligned with Germany (which makes some sense as the majority of population of the US is of german descent), then it would make sense if the media power of the US instead villified communism to the degree it did fascism. Instead of everybody being the next hitler, godwin's law would be a comparison to Stalin. Instead of every oppressed group comparing themselves to holocaust victims, they'd compare themselves to gulag victims. There'd be a top-down villification of fascism of course, as part of the cold war with Germany + Italy (+Japan?). But not as complete as it would crack down on communism. Instead of Marx's work being the most read in US campuses, it might be Mein Kampf, as Germany used the liberal republic's openness against itself and funded many a student and teacher movement in the US, while of course the US would do the same to Germany + Italy.

By this time though, both systems would no doubt become equally corrupt and people would yearn for a third alternative and you'd see a new rise of grassroots communism, with 10% of the US looking positively on it, as they now do with fascist viewpoints.
 
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KiwiJoe said:
There's no way in hell that the US would ever side with the Germans in WW2.

Most likely just being isolationist and Germany not allying with Japan (so if Japan does Pearl Harbor it would be a US thing only). In that case WW2 in Europe would probably be longer, even more brutal, and be a toss up between the Soviets or Germans.

If Germans win, just think of TWRmod's alternate history scenario or something. Germans and Italians have hegemony over Europe, Russia is balkanized, but most of European Russia is ruled by the Germans, etc. The Soviets aren't truly defeated but it basically spells the end of communism as a influential ideology around the world and its now fascism.

Basically a Cold War between Liberals (USA and UK) and Fascists (Germany and Italy).
An example map is in the files.

If anything an Axis victory in WW2 would even mean more Leftism rising in the US, like a reverse McCarthyism. So probably you get Drag Queen story time by the 1980s, lol.
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So the argument here is no matter what, Fascism would be worse in every direction, being even MORE neoliberal and also communist? Come the fuck on lol
 
Lemmingwise said:
I don't think so. If for whatever reason the US had aligned with Germany (which makes some sense as the majority of population of the US is of german descent), then it would make sense if the media power of the US instead villified communism to the degree it did fascism. Instead of everybody being the next hitler, godwin's law would be a comparison to Stalin. Instead of every oppressed group comparing themselves to holocaust victims, they'd compare themselves to gulag victims. There'd be a top-down villification of fascism of course, as part of the cold war with Germany + Italy (+Japan?). But not as complete as it would crack down on communism. Instead of Marx's work being the most read in US campuses, it might be Mein Kampf, as Germany used the liberal republic's openness against itself and funded many a student and teacher movement in the US, while of course the US would do the same to Germany + Italy.

By this time though, both systems would no doubt become equally corrupt and people would yearn for a third alternative and you'd see a new rise of grassroots communism, with 10% of the US looking positively on it, as they now do with fascist viewpoints.
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Yeah I took it in way too far. I just at first assumed that if there was a hypothetical German-US Cold War you'd just replace Communism with Fascism (hence, I assumed a 'reverse-McCarthyism'). But I now realize it's a lot more in-depth than that.
 
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wtfNeedSignUp said:
As a person not from the USA, how much does it cost for a normal beef patty without crazy additives or "not meat" (esoteric parts of the animal are fine though).
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From a grocery, about $4.00 a pound. This edit seems to be a shot at deregulation.
 
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