My friend joined AntiFa, what do I do?

[AMHOLIO]

Someone who's been my pal for around 6 years and has helped me through rough times posted a picture of themselves with an Antifa Catboy pin and is undergoing training to become a field medic (20 hour one day course which I imagine to do nothing more than "you bring oranges to the kids on the soccer field"). I love them as a sibling, but their communist roommate, social circle, and corona isolation seems to have gotten to them. They live a few states away from me so I can't really have an in person talk about it. What the fuck do I do?

Edit: thanks all so far, I'll respond when I wake up. Gonna add that they decided to start taking T recently (FtM) so I don't know what will trigger them emotionally or if they even have that yet.

Edit 2: big response post since I like keeping shit organized even in non-cow threads. Hate digging too much through threads.

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

 

[Sage In All Fields]

Why do you need to do anything? I'm friends with nazis and commies, we basically all accept that we'd kill each other on the battlefield. Literally this:

 

[Ita Mori]

You line his chest with buckshot.
Commies aren't people.

 

[Meriasek]

Well, he's not your friend anymore, so whatever. He's gone.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

Well, I'd start by asking him why he thinks that's a good idea and what he thinks fascism is. Maybe he doesn't understand what he's getting into.

 

[Purin Chan]

If you care about him that much then just talk to him more and build a stronger bond with him. Any retardation from dumb ideologies can easily be remedied by at least having someone close to you to keep you in check. This stuff starts because these people are always in an eco-chamber of yes men.

 

[Citation Checking Project]

First, definitely thread carefully. You probably want to not reveal your powerlevel to them, as cringy as it may sound and however high you think it is, or they think it is. You don't want to shoot yourself in the foot on that front. You should probably play moderate and/or dumb around them. It might seem dishonest, but most people do it to some extent at some point, so get used to it. And feel free to disengage at any point.

Next, you need to know your enemy. Antifa is organised along the bazaar model, so you dont know how far they're willing to go and what exactly they believe because it differs from person to person. Say optimistically if they just intend to be a street medic with antifa esthetics, it's not that big a deal apart from the fact that it can be an on-ramp. OTOH they might end up full-on revolutionary over whatever anti* cause they might pick, and they might be playing dumb as well, so be careful. Yes, politics is all mind games, always has been.

Given this, the first thing you'd do is try to probe them with an semi-open mind. See what exactly they say they want to do, what their root concern is (afraid of orange man? love the BBC? think right-wing militias exclude them and want to form their own?) and what moral axioms they hold. Be prepared for the same treatment, and expect to alienate them; if that happens, you did your best and that's how it is meant to be.

Only after you have intelligence can action come. What you can and should do depends a lot on the facts on the ground, so cross that bridge when you reach it. Note that there are de-radicalisation resources that exist, so don't go try to reinvent the wheel, do what works.

Disclaimer: those are just the rambling of some right-wing euro on the Internet, don't take it too seriously.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Enjoy getting blocked by him on social media like with my friend who joined antifa.

 

[Bibendum]

It always amazes me that these people think there's a genuine fascist threat to America, it's positively delusional. Trump has been POTUS for 4 years now -- where are the concentration camps for minorities, the RWDS roaming the streets, the imprisonment of hostile press? Where is the nuclear war we were all but assured would happen due to Trump's "psychological instability?" How could your friend possibly not see that the only mass violence occurring is perpetrated by his own side?

Moreover, Antifa are pathetically cowardly and unprincipled as far as leftist revolutionaries go. They relatively rarely target police or politicians, and when they do it's mostly unserious posturing, like when they threw that party in Ted Wheeler's lobby or toss molotovs at empty cop cars. They never target the elite beyond bringing the occasional fake guillotine to protests. They routinely get BTFO'd by people like the boomer McClokskeys, chubby teenager Rittenhouse, and the random unfortunate drivers they attempt to detain. They blew their shot at pushing serious, important policing reforms by being retarded and losing almost all public sympathy. And their rioting, looting, and arson have been most harmful to small business owners and the actual working class. Is that really what your friend wants to be associated with? I suggest you explain this to him before he gets played as a useful idiot and eventually arrested. If he wants to fight for social justice without being a total shithead, tell him to volunteer at a food pantry or donate to an innocence project.

 

[Tim Buckley]

Enjoy getting blocked by him on social media like with my friend who joined antifa.

This, just make an edgy joke online and they'll do all the work burning the bridge and smiting you down with the mighty block button.

 

[thick internet digit web]

give him a hemlock infusion, say it's some new vegan bullshit and he will drink it up even if it tastes funny. Then he'll be dead in a few days.

 

[Friend computer]

Just tell him Antifa doesn't exist.

 

[alreadyhome]

Say goodbye

 

[Maskull]

If you value the relationship you have with this person the foremost thing you should be is a good friend.

I think a lot of people on this site have seen those that have fallen afoul of Internet communities turned political or even transsexual and from what you've described it sounds to me they've fallen into a hugbox that's driving their decisions. I don't believe you could convince them otherwise right now without them digging their heels in. I think it would be worth talking to other people you know in common to come to an understanding of the broader picture of what's going on in their life and maybe you could as a collective subtly turn them towards a healthier path.

 

[Kacho]

You need to cut contact with this person and report him to the authorities. He is not your friend anymore unless you're looking to be friends with a terrorist.

 

[Junkail]

You need to cut contact with this person and report him to the authorities. He is not your friend anymore unless you're looking to be friends with a terrorist.

You can't get someone commited if they haven't done anything yet. All OP said was that he joined Antifa.

 

[Boris Blank's glass eye]

Sounds rough. The most serious problem I see with this is AntiFa, like the woke-tarded fucknuggets they are, are very identitarian. They can't see people beyond an arbitrarily chosen primary characteristic or trait, which is usually deemed "problematic", stemming from their ideological purity bullshit.

You need to act as a concerned friend, completely apolitically.

 

[Inventor of the Telephone]

Gonna add that they decided to start taking T recently (FtM) so I don't know what will trigger them emotionally or if they even have that yet.

That seems like it is a much bigger issue than joining a social justice cult. There is probably no way you're going to be able to reach them through that level of mental illness. Their joining a cult is just another typical step on the tranny path.

A better idea might be to find some radfem FTM resources (with the loss of r/gendercritical I'm not sure where you'd go for that) and try to ply that angle instead. If they are just starting it is not too late to save them from the biggest mistake of their life.

Honestly, unless they can be removed from the trantifa echo chambers and lunatic social circle, there is probably no hope for them until they've hit a hard rock bottom. You must kidnap them and wash their brain. (Conversion therapy did nothing wrong.)

 

[Troonos]

Only one thing you can do. Take him out back like Old Yeller and do what needs to be done. He's too far gone. You might save an innocent grandpa from being beaten to death.