2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Agreed. I imagine a lot of the salt from the left was not only that but Biden looking weak and the fact that Biden resorted to insults means they can't even claim a moral victory. It was a disaster for them.

Before the debate Biden's strategy was to intentionally hide in the fog of war and be this nebulous generic-democrat-guy. Part of this was him basically taking whatever policy stance was most useful at any given moment. "Green New Deal? Of course I do/don't/do support it!" We, and I think a lot of Trump Supporters, are informed enough to know about it, but a lot of the left pick which version of Biden they like and ignore the rest.

During the debate he proceeded to reduce himself to "Trump's level" -- I think his dementia wouldn't let him do otherwise, remember, Biden was the first one who started interrupting and the only one who did personal attacks like "Clown" -- and instead of the choice being between "Trump" and "Not Trump" (calm, rational, presidential) the choice is... Trump vs ... another, less skillful Trump.

That has to be sticking in the craw of some of them. Hence why the narrative is "Orange Hitler wasn't loud enough when he said nazis bad!" and "Trump sure interrupted a lot!" They don't want the image of a confused, angry Biden standing out in the minds of people.

Biden was supposed to be better than Trump. During the debate, he wasn't. Beyond anything else, that's a big L for Biden.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

You're severely overestimating the amount of Trump hate in the US. Or at least, the capacity for Trump hate to be converted into useful political action.

Of course, I don't know how the electorate is so it should not be underestimated but we'll wait and see

Voter registration closes in a few days anyway! This is way too late. And even if it wasn't, you know who usually does the door to door footwork? The same people Biden alienated a few nights ago.

I just realized that was the first time I ever watched Trump in a live debate before.

I saw Trump debate since the 2016 primaries and it seemed the way he wins is dragging opponents to his level as each of his opponents lost substantially trying to ape him.

 

[heyitsmike]

The Trump hate IS real. But what percentage are saying "I hate Trump so much I'm voting for Biden even though he sucks" and actually bother to vote, compared to the disgusted stay-home percentage?

No idea.

I feel Trump hate is kinda like the statistic that 50% of all marriages end in divorce. While technically true, the number is skewed by the people who have multiple divorces (the God Emperor included).

The quantity of Trump hate is skewed by the people who really, really hate Trump. But their vote still only counts once.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Very odd behavior from a campaign supposedly on track for a landslide...
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It's worth mocking, but it's also the right call. Remember all those articles about Democrats freaking out that their state had no ground game? And the famous Hillary neglect of Michigan?

I was hoping Biden would ride his "virtual only" experiment into Election Day. In part because I thought it was a mistake that would depress his turnout. And in part so we could get a clean comparison of the two campaign tactics. Claiming that "face-to-face politicking is obsolete" is a bold idea, along the lines of the 2008 Obama campaign's embrace of Big Data to analyze voters. Now that Biden is mixing it up, we won't get a useful answer.

 

[RockPaper]

It's worth mocking, but it's also the right call. Remember all those articles about Democrats freaking out that their state had no ground game? And the famous Hillary neglect of Michigan?

Yes, but it's one thing to claim you're going to start your "ground game", and another to actually do it and have it be effective.

They can say anything they want. That part is easy.

 

[bippu_as_fuck_ls400]

Remember the migrant caravans around the time of the midterms in 2018? The ones that were timed to arrive at almost election time?

They're pulling out the same playbook.


https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1311752925035868162 (https://archive.vn/OzbCD)

I'm anxiously awaiting our new propaganda photos like this one from last time:

 

[Tour of Italy]

I personally know two white female suburbanites who have registered to vote in the general for the first time this year, and they intend to vote against Trump despite both of them saying they dislike Biden.

When asked why they didn’t like Trump, one said “he’s mean, I just don’t like him”.

The “Facebook Mom” demographic, who get’s inundated with TDS headlines and their peers freaking out about Roe v. Wade is one to look out for. They’re a real risk, and I don’t think the debate helped him there.

I have complicated feelings about the Trump presidency, but foreign policy alone has made me pretty firm on him. There’s something to be said about the fact that Trump has blown up fewer children in the Middle East than any president in the past 20 years, and it looks like he genuinely wants to keep it that way.

 

[Ruin]

I personally know two white female suburbanitewho have registered to vote in the general for the first time this year, and they intend to vote against Trump despite both of them saying they dislike Biden.

When asked why they didn’t like Trump, one said “he’s mean, I just don’t like him”.

The “Facebook Mom” demographic, who get’s inundated with TDS headlines and their peers freaking out about Roe v. Wade is one to look out for. They’re a real risk, and I don’t think the debate helped him there.

I have complicated feelings about the Trump presidency, but foreign policy alone has made me pretty firm on him. There’s something to be said about the fact that Trump has blown up fewer children in the Middle East than any president in the past 20 years, and it looks like he genuinely wants to keep it that way.

Abortion single issue wine moms will never vote for Republicans. They didn't vote for Trump in 2016 and trying to pander to them is even more useless than trying to pander to ghetto nogs.

 

[tehpope]

My dad mentioned that this is similar to HW vs Clinton. Where Bush barely did rallies while Bill had to ice his hands because they were getting so swollen from shaking hands so much. But then again, bush had the tax raise and the gulf war during his term.

 

[Tour of Italy]

Abortion single issue wine moms will never vote for Republicans. They didn't vote for Trump in 2016 and trying to pander to them is even more useless than trying to pander to ghetto nogs.

I’m not saying it’s worth trying to flip them, I’m just saying there’s a danger of higher turnout in that group.

That’s not the story told by the voter registration numbers in a lot of states, but it’s absolutely a factor worth considering.

One of the individuals mentioned is only very mildly pro-choice, but in our conversations she hinted that everyone freaking out about Roe is what got her paying attention in the first place.

It’s easy here to deride the narratives that the media is spinning, but your average person on Facebook does not have sophisticated judgement. The mainstream line and the peer pressure from their loud mouthed friends will absolutely play a role.

Is this the most important election of my lifetime so far? Maybe. But even if it’s not, it’s a worthy sequel to 2016 because we’ve reached the point where politicians realized they can drive turnout by selling the idea that it is.

 

[Ruin]

I’m not saying it’s worth trying to flip them, I’m just saying there’s a danger of higher turnout in that group.

That’s not the story told by the voter registration numbers in a lot of states, but it’s absolutely a factor worth considering.

One of the individuals mentioned is only very mildly pro-choice, but in our conversations she hinted that everyone freaking out about Roe is what got her paying attention in the first place.

It’s easy here to deride the narratives that the media is spinning, but your average person on Facebook does not have sophisticated judgement. The mainstream line and the peer pressure from their loud mouthed friends will absolutely play a role.

Is this the most important election of my lifetime so far? Maybe. But even if it’s not, it’s a worthy sequel to 2016 because we’ve reached the point where politicians realized they can drive turnout by selling the idea that it is.

Idk older suburban women might show up but I really doubt your average 18-25 Onlyfans/Instathot is going to vote en mass. That group is famous for having like an 18% turnout rate.

 

[heyitsmike]

I’m not saying it’s worth trying to flip them, I’m just saying there’s a danger of higher turnout in that group.

That's why it's important to demoralize them by confirming Barrett ASAP. Once that's done a large motivator for them goes away.

 

[CrippleThreat]

My dad mentioned that this is similar to HW vs Clinton. Where Bush barely did rallies while Bill had to ice his hands because they were getting so swollen from shaking hands so much. But then again, bush had the tax raise and the gulf war during his term.

Sucks that Jo is no Perot.

But on Desert Storn, that boosted H Dubya's approval rating to 87% because of the great victory, if I recall correctly. However, "No More Taxes" along with other mistakes left Dubya Sr. with one term.

Biden is still going on about his tax raises as if he's saying "That shit is going up, motherfuckers!" The Hollywood / privileged types won't worry, but if you're a blue dog Democrat with no job because of the pandemic, what do you do?

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

Idk older suburban women might show up but I really doubt your average 18-25 Onlyfans/Instathot is going to vote en mass. That group is famous for having like an 18% turnout rate.

Nah, he's more worried about the 40-60 year old suburban mom group chimping out, which I understand as that is only of the only demographics I have seen that unironicly is excited for Harris and Biden.

 

[Ruin]

Nah, he's more worried about the 40-60 year old suburban mom group chimping out, which I understand as that is only of the only demographics I have seen that unironicly is excited for Harris and Biden.

So what's the big deal? That group turned out like 99.9% for Hillary and did it help her win the election?

 

[Puff]

That's why it's important to demoralize them by confirming Barrett ASAP. Once that's done a large motivator for them goes away.

Not ASAP. Immediately before the election. Mail in is hard to demoralize. You don't have to get up and DO anything.
Also since Dems are more likely to mail in and mail-ins are more likely to not count for technical reasons..... How many do you think they'll lose with their master plan if we can halfway keep them honest?

 

[Honest Coyote]

I think the suburban women will show in lower numbers, for a couple of reasons.

1. Clinton isn't in. Kamala being the first is a permanent asterisk in the record.

2. Trump isn't a rape machine. In 2016, we had the "grab them by the pussy" tape in October if I remember correctly. Nothing short of an actual recorded rape can revive that outrage, and it's just as likely to burn finger-banger Biden.

3. Hunter Biden is a huge turnoff for the fainting couch types. Buying dildos for strippers to peg him with? Dead brother's wife? Illegitimate child with stripper? Cocaine, money laundering, Eastern European prostitutes? It's almost too bad that all late night shows are dnc propaganda. They ran with the nonexistent pee tapes for months, which is downright Mormon compared to Hunter.

4. Niggerry is fun on tv and girls night out. Not in your front yard at 3 AM.

5. The left has been screaming about white women for 4 years, and kicked off the Karen insult, which probably hits a little too close to home for some.

 

[Exterminatus]

Isn't it irresponsible to go door to door like that during a pandemic...?

It's actually been scientifically proven that if you support the right causes and hold the right ideas that you're immune to COVID, that's why it's completely okay for BLM to protest and riot but it's absolutely appalling for people in lockdown states to gather and protest their state government for their draconian rules and unconstitutional emergency measures.

Remember the migrant caravans around the time of the midterms in 2018? The ones that were timed to arrive at almost election time?

They're pulling out the same playbook.

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https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1311752925035868162 (https://archive.vn/OzbCD)

I'm anxiously awaiting our new propaganda photos like this one from last time:
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That certainly does seem convenient I guess Biden figures 3,000 more voters can help him finally flip Arizona blue.

 

[Harvey Danger]

So what's the big deal? That group turned out like 99.9% for Hillary and did it help her win the election?

The big deal is that the ones who didn't turn out at all stayed home because they hated Hillary Clinton. After 4 years of TDS, it's easy to forget how much the nation already hated Hillary when she ran.

Without the Hillary hate, a chunk of 2016 Trump voters may switch back to Democrats, or 2016 non-voters may come out. I don't know if it's enough to erode Trump's margins, that's a math question to solve based on estimated turnout. PPD has some interesting numbers on this topic, but I haven't seen much anywhere else. And PPD hasn't been asking this specific question in his polling either.

 

[bippu_as_fuck_ls400]

So... Has anyone mentioned that the moderator for the upcoming C-SPAN debate was an intern for Biden?


https://smpa.gwu.edu/steve-scully (https://archive.vn/LwpMn)

I'm sure he'll be impartial!


https://twitter.com/SteveScully/status/710943428314419201 (https://archive.vn/JqPqB)


https://twitter.com/SteveScully/status/739184728641810432 (https://archive.vn/AyEL6)