Fat Acceptance Movement / Fat Girlcows


Christ I hope that yoga prop is rated for her weight. And that the manufacturer can protect themselves legally when some deathfat who insists on doing this ends up breaking their fucking neck.

On top of that, she's flailing all over the place. This doesn't look controlled at all. It doesn't even look like she's using the wall to steady herself, which she should be. She's not ready for this type of pose, and at that weight, she never can be. The point of yoga is not to strike a particular pose, it's to work up towards being able to hold it. It's the practice that's important. At her size, doing very basic poses would be far more beneficial than using a fairly advanced prop and most likely inertia to get up there. I can't imagine the pressure being on her shoulders right now.

This is honestly a bit scary to me. I agree that encouraging fatties to do yoga is great, but fatties (and everyone else) are prone to go for the lewk~~ rather than put in the actual work by starting with the basics. I hope she is not inspiring other fatties to do THIS.

Freaking anyone can call themselves a yoga teacher these days, I guess.
 
How safe is it/good for you is it for normal people? Is there a benefit to back or neck pain, or is it just to look cool?

Not Who you quoted but a supported shoulder/ headstand can be beneficial for increased blood flowTo the head and relaxation especially after a rather vigorous Vinyasa or Yang class. But there are many other inverted poses that are much safer and have the same benefits.

I should have elaborated more In my first post but even supported by a prop in that pose it seriously could be dangerous just like what brooky said, if she twists or falls in those pose she could seriously do some damage to her neck and shoulders, she’s so wobbly (in more ways than one lol) and doesn’t look supported properly at all.

There’s so many poses that are safe for fatties/ beginners that don’t place any excessive pressure in places that could cause serious damage, slight PL but I’ve attended many Yin (slow, relaxation) classes with fats as big as her and the instructor would never encourage them to do anything that dangerous if they could injure themselves.

Tldr: she could hurt herself doing that with her excess weight (and inability to correctly hold the pose) Fats doing yoga is great but she is encouraging fats to do dangerous *~instagram~* worthy poses that could be dangerous.

excuse my yoga sperg :stress:
 
Not Who you quoted but a supported shoulder/ headstand can be beneficial for increased blood flowTo the head and relaxation especially after a rather vigorous Vinyasa or Yang class. But there are many other inverted poses that are much safer and have the same benefits.

I should have elaborated more In my first post but even supported by a prop in that pose it seriously could be dangerous just like what brooky said, if she twists or falls in those pose she could seriously do some damage to her neck and shoulders, she’s so wobbly (in more ways than one lol) and doesn’t look supported properly at all.

There’s so many poses that are safe for fatties/ beginners that don’t place any excessive pressure in places that could cause serious damage, slight PL but I’ve attended many Yin (slow, relaxation) classes with fats as big as her and the instructor would never encourage them to do anything that dangerous if they could injure themselves.

Tldr: she could hurt herself doing that with her excess weight (and inability to correctly hold the pose) Fats doing yoga is great but she is encouraging fats to do dangerous *~instagram~* worthy poses that could be dangerous.

excuse my yoga sperg :stress:
The yoga sperg is appreciated; both for personal interest and in the interests of thread stuff.
I always think about that image of Ragen Chastain doing the splits where someone had added lines in paint showing the angle of her bones to her pelvis vs. what that looked like on a thinner person. Fatties hold up things like bloodwork and flexibility as indicators of health, but I'm genuinely curious about this stuff.
 
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She looks so happy
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Edit. Is it just me, or is our gorl gaining?
 
The yoga sperg is appreciated; both for personal interest and in the interests of thread stuff.
I always think about that image of Ragen Chastain doing the splits where someone had added lines in paint showing the angle of her bones to her pelvis vs. what that looked like on a thinner person. Fatties hold up things like bloodwork and flexibility as indicators of health, but I'm genuinely curious about this stuff.

Glad to hear!

It really is like that, placing so much extra pressure and weight in areas it shouldn’t be can be a recpike for disaster and can fuck up so much of your body (like ol‘ Ragen) A quick google and there are tons of guides,DVDs and resources for fats to do yoga safely like This website, some short research and girl should know she’s fucking her shoulders.


If you have any other questions about this stuff, feel free to PM :)
 
How safe is it/good for you is it for normal people? Is there a benefit to back or neck pain, or is it just to look cool?

Like @Autisticats says, inversions are good for your neck and back, but the way she's doing it here is pretty irresponsible IMO.

The average person, or at least average person using this website, sites in front of a computer all day or in a similar pose. If you're doing labour like construction work, stocking shelves, or cleaning, you're mostly bending to pick stuff up, and if you're in a crouch or bent over position, your neck is probably still craned to keep your gaze up.

So, any pose that can reverse that gives your body a much needed break. Even slowly bending over in a "touch your toes" shape and letting your upper body, head, and arms hang down is very good for you. If someone is feeling stiff or gross, doing that a few times a day can make a surprisingly big difference.

Here's the thing, though: you don't actually have to touch your toes. You don't "succeed" in yoga by already being flexible. Yoga is the practice of doing those poses and motions to build up strength, etc. So just hanging as far as gravity will pull you to give your back and legs a stretch, without overdoing it, and taking the strain of your head off your neck for a while is fine. Do that once or twice a day and most people would be able to touch their toes in a surprisingly short amount of time.

A lot of deathfats can't touch their toes, though. And they might not even really be able to bend over that far. If they can go far enough that their head and arms hang, then they are getting a benefit-- it just LOOKS very underwhelming, and probably makes them feel bad and sloppy. If they have their head on right, they accept this. I know one very fat person who has been fat her whole life, and she does yoga all the time, and she accepts this. She does the version of the poses that she can do, and she focuses on the benefits she gets from it rather than trying to achieve the advanced forms.

Like @Autisticats mentioned, there are LOTS of GREAT resources for fat people who want to do yoga. The best among them, however, don't have that great aesthetic that internet influencer types are looking for. A fat person doing yoga is just never going to look as good as a hot, skinny yoga influencer doing crazy inversions and bends on a beach or on top of a mountain or wherever. So it really depends on what someone is looking for, and what they want to get out of it.

PL time: The more I think about this head-stand prop she's using, the more I get mad at it. I can see a few beneficial reasons for using a prop like this, but not many. I don't see at all how it's preferable to doing a headstand in front of a wall. Maybe I'm biased because that's the way I was taught to do it when you're starting out, and it took me about a year to be comfortable trying it away from the wall. It's been a few years years and I still don't have the ab strength to do a complete controlled head-stand without kicking up. (If I practiced every day, that would be a different story.) So I usually do it by the wall and kick up to get into the pose and get the benefits for my neck.

I was also taught to balance on my forearms, using the top of my head on the floor as a sort of reference point. Thinking about it now, it's much easier to "fall" out of position that way. Besides having the wall as a balance, if you fall, you already have more contact with the floor, and can sort of push away so you can land on your feet. I think it's also less likely that you might fall to the side. You already ARE the support on the ground, rather than using the prop.

In this thing, if she falls backwards, she's fucked. If she's very body-aware, she might be able to catch the wall in time, but she looks a bit too far away. She'd twist backward over her neck. If she wobbles to the side, she's similarly fucked, I don't really see how she'd get out of it in time. The only safe way she can go is the way she got in, and it's hard to believe she has that much control.

Props, while very useful to accommodate certain moves, can also be kind of a crutch. They can make people think they can go for poses they're not ready for. Teachers will often say, if you can't reach floor, you can use a block to make the floor higher for you. That's great. But sometimes a very good teacher will say "If you can't reach the floor or block, it's enough to just reach FOR it" and I think that's something people often forget in yoga.

I'm probably also making it sound like injuries are more common than they are. Yoga is pretty safe. I just worry that if some very fat people see something like this online, especially if they are not getting yoga instruction in person from a qualified teacher, and they do wind up hurting themselves, it'll derail their health even more. I've seen very fit, athletic people pack on the pounds after an injury. And I don't think a deathfat needs a lot of excuses to quit yoga. So I just hope they find the right resources to do it.

The FA appropriation of yoga is something that really bugs me. I think fat people, and everyone, can benefit a lot from yoga. But, like dance, it's one of those things they use to PROVE that they are healthy, when they are either not doing it properly or only doing very basic forms. I remember that video a young, thin, aspiring-or-pro dancer made comparing herself doing some Ragen Chastain "pro" dance moves, and it was like-- seeing a skinny girl do it was like watching a 5 year old's dance class.

Like dancing, doing yoga doesn't automatically make you healthy. People dying of cancer can do yoga.

Not to go all SJW, but while yoga has become very widespread in the West, and I am no yoga expert, there IS a specific cultural and spiritual origin to it. If you want to do crazy stretches, knock yourself out, but don't call it yoga if you don't respect yoga. There's a whole philosophy of yoga that extends beyond weekly exercise. Part of mindfulness and mind-body connection is RESTRAINT. Fat people can absolutely practice those things, but when they do it consistently, they tend to get less-fat. Obesity is, IMO, a direct result of decadence, overindulgence, and a disconnect between body, mind, spirit, and emotions. The people I know who are the most into yoga are also very careful about what they eat, at least most of the time, because they respect their bodies on another level. FA people might call that a pathological level, and it sometimes can be, but for the most part I think it's admirable. You only get one go around in this body, treat it right.

I don't hate fat people, and I say all this as a recovering fat person. I just don't think it's healthy. Yoga, as a practice, is very beneficial to health. You can be fat and do yoga. You can be fat, do yoga, and stay fat, because it won't burn the calories you're overeating.

But if you were so invested in health and mindfulness and spiritual well being that you want to teach yoga to others, I feel like you would lose weight as a natural side effect of the actual yoga lifestyle. I'm not Indian, I think yoga is "mainstream" enough that anyone can do it without ascribing to the spiritual aspect of it, etc, but a fat, unhealthy yoga teacher just doesn't make any sense to me.
 
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Edit. Is it just me, or is our gorl gaining?
With everything else going on, I almost didn't notice how hideous those earrings are.

I wonder if Bekah has a goal in mind for all this. Is she trying to get famous?
Does she hope to have a book someday, or do lectures?

The way she writes is so unnatural, because she doesn't really believe it. She's trying to sell the FA to herself as much as anyone. She tries to write like she's on a dramatic journey, having profound epiphanies she'll share with her beautiful prose. But she's just spewing what they all say, and it seems really robotic. Pair that with forced smile + crazy eyes, and it's obvious she's faking it. Still, I get that she's trying to be the next Sophie Hagen.
 
I beg of you, if you have massive honkers like Bekah here, wear a real bra, with a real back and cup size.

A bralette, perchance, for lounging at home. Either ones in a real bra size, or ones made especially for DD+ chests.

By all means, for your very best instagram pics, if you would like to look like a saggy potato sack, get a bralette that comes in S/M/L sizes and is PULL ON. Boobs everywhere weep for their fallen sisters.

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this is Tiffany crow, she isn’t that bad either she encourages fat people to do yoga which is great, I could sperg about how great yoga is (esp for fatties, props and alterations to move make it so much more accessible) but this is kiwiwfarms lol.

But the things she posts, she may have very well had an eating disorder but these tiktoks showcase her diet....

For breakfast, a dainty box of donuts...

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And lunch is enough sushi to feed a small family in japan...
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girl that is an insane amount of food, moving from a restrictive ED to binging is just putting the problem in another area



Bonus: ow, glad the props their to help....

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Oh, I think you're being too kind with the "isn't that bad" part. It's important to regroup and remember that just because someone isn't an absolute monstrosity like Anna or Kelly Lenza, she's still at least 130 pounds overweight.
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We should never normalize weighing 300 pounds for anyone; even a 7' man is basically obese at 300 pounds. We should not allow women to say that because they once restricted their food a bit too much or bought into crash dieting in their twenties that they have eating disorders and should binge for years afterward to make up for it. These things are highly detrimental and contribute to very sick, sad people caught in a vicious cycle. Moderation needs to be modeled, practiced, and emphasized.

At the rate she's going, this Tiffany woman is likely going to hit 350/400 by 40, and then the real despair and limitations begin.
 
Anyone have a link? I'd love to check this out.

Ah, apparently she just filmed herself and didn't edit it with the Ragen original. Somebody else put it on Youtube Doubler with the original, but I guess Youtube Doubler isn't a thing anymore? This is the skinny dancer, maybe if someone knows the original they can link it for comparison.

Although this post might belong in the Ragen Chastain thread.

ETA: Here is the original Ragen dance.
 
Oh, I think you're being too kind with the "isn't that bad" part. It's important to regroup and remember that just because someone isn't an absolute monstrosity like Anna or Kelly Lenza, she's still at least 130 pounds overweight.
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We should never normalize weighing 300 pounds for anyone; even a 7' man is basically obese at 300 pounds. We should not allow women to say that because they once restricted their food a bit too much or bought into crash dieting in their twenties that they have eating disorders and should binge for years afterward to make up for it. These things are highly detrimental and contribute to very sick, sad people caught in a vicious cycle. Moderation needs to be modeled, practiced, and emphasized.

At the rate she's going, this Tiffany woman is likely going to hit 350/400 by 40, and then the real despair and limitations begin.
If I was that fat and that close to 40, I would also make an instagram account talking about how fine and accepting and celebrating of the situation I am in order to convince everyone how not catatonicly depressed I was for doing this to myself.
 
Like @Autisticats says, inversions are good for your neck and back, but the way she's doing it here is pretty irresponsible IMO.

The average person, or at least average person using this website, sites in front of a computer all day or in a similar pose. If you're doing labour like construction work, stocking shelves, or cleaning, you're mostly bending to pick stuff up, and if you're in a crouch or bent over position, your neck is probably still craned to keep your gaze up.

So, any pose that can reverse that gives your body a much needed break. Even slowly bending over in a "touch your toes" shape and letting your upper body, head, and arms hang down is very good for you. If someone is feeling stiff or gross, doing that a few times a day can make a surprisingly big difference.

Here's the thing, though: you don't actually have to touch your toes. You don't "succeed" in yoga by already being flexible. Yoga is the practice of doing those poses and motions to build up strength, etc. So just hanging as far as gravity will pull you to give your back and legs a stretch, without overdoing it, and taking the strain of your head off your neck for a while is fine. Do that once or twice a day and most people would be able to touch their toes in a surprisingly short amount of time.

A lot of deathfats can't touch their toes, though. And they might not even really be able to bend over that far. If they can go far enough that their head and arms hang, then they are getting a benefit-- it just LOOKS very underwhelming, and probably makes them feel bad and sloppy. If they have their head on right, they accept this. I know one very fat person who has been fat her whole life, and she does yoga all the time, and she accepts this. She does the version of the poses that she can do, and she focuses on the benefits she gets from it rather than trying to achieve the advanced forms.

Like @Autisticats mentioned, there are LOTS of GREAT resources for fat people who want to do yoga. The best among them, however, don't have that great aesthetic that internet influencer types are looking for. A fat person doing yoga is just never going to look as good as a hot, skinny yoga influencer doing crazy inversions and bends on a beach or on top of a mountain or wherever. So it really depends on what someone is looking for, and what they want to get out of it.

PL time: The more I think about this head-stand prop she's using, the more I get mad at it. I can see a few beneficial reasons for using a prop like this, but not many. I don't see at all how it's preferable to doing a headstand in front of a wall. Maybe I'm biased because that's the way I was taught to do it when you're starting out, and it took me about a year to be comfortable trying it away from the wall. It's been a few years years and I still don't have the ab strength to do a complete controlled head-stand without kicking up. (If I practiced every day, that would be a different story.) So I usually do it by the wall and kick up to get into the pose and get the benefits for my neck.

I was also taught to balance on my forearms, using the top of my head on the floor as a sort of reference point. Thinking about it now, it's much easier to "fall" out of position that way. Besides having the wall as a balance, if you fall, you already have more contact with the floor, and can sort of push away so you can land on your feet. I think it's also less likely that you might fall to the side. You already ARE the support on the ground, rather than using the prop.

In this thing, if she falls backwards, she's fucked. If she's very body-aware, she might be able to catch the wall in time, but she looks a bit too far away. She'd twist backward over her neck. If she wobbles to the side, she's similarly fucked, I don't really see how she'd get out of it in time. The only safe way she can go is the way she got in, and it's hard to believe she has that much control.

Props, while very useful to accommodate certain moves, can also be kind of a crutch. They can make people think they can go for poses they're not ready for. Teachers will often say, if you can't reach floor, you can use a block to make the floor higher for you. That's great. But sometimes a very good teacher will say "If you can't reach the floor or block, it's enough to just reach FOR it" and I think that's something people often forget in yoga.

I'm probably also making it sound like injuries are more common than they are. Yoga is pretty safe. I just worry that if some very fat people see something like this online, especially if they are not getting yoga instruction in person from a qualified teacher, and they do wind up hurting themselves, it'll derail their health even more. I've seen very fit, athletic people pack on the pounds after an injury. And I don't think a deathfat needs a lot of excuses to quit yoga. So I just hope they find the right resources to do it.

The FA appropriation of yoga is something that really bugs me. I think fat people, and everyone, can benefit a lot from yoga. But, like dance, it's one of those things they use to PROVE that they are healthy, when they are either not doing it properly or only doing very basic forms. I remember that video a young, thin, aspiring-or-pro dancer made comparing herself doing some Ragen Chastain "pro" dance moves, and it was like-- seeing a skinny girl do it was like watching a 5 year old's dance class.

Like dancing, doing yoga doesn't automatically make you healthy. People dying of cancer can do yoga.

Not to go all SJW, but while yoga has become very widespread in the West, and I am no yoga expert, there IS a specific cultural and spiritual origin to it. If you want to do crazy stretches, knock yourself out, but don't call it yoga if you don't respect yoga. There's a whole philosophy of yoga that extends beyond weekly exercise. Part of mindfulness and mind-body connection is RESTRAINT. Fat people can absolutely practice those things, but when they do it consistently, they tend to get less-fat. Obesity is, IMO, a direct result of decadence, overindulgence, and a disconnect between body, mind, spirit, and emotions. The people I know who are the most into yoga are also very careful about what they eat, at least most of the time, because they respect their bodies on another level. FA people might call that a pathological level, and it sometimes can be, but for the most part I think it's admirable. You only get one go around in this body, treat it right.

I don't hate fat people, and I say all this as a recovering fat person. I just don't think it's healthy. Yoga, as a practice, is very beneficial to health. You can be fat and do yoga. You can be fat, do yoga, and stay fat, because it won't burn the calories you're overeating.

But if you were so invested in health and mindfulness and spiritual well being that you want to teach yoga to others, I feel like you would lose weight as a natural side effect of the actual yoga lifestyle. I'm not Indian, I think yoga is "mainstream" enough that anyone can do it without ascribing to the spiritual aspect of it, etc, but a fat, unhealthy yoga teacher just doesn't make any sense to me.

Like all SJWs, FA loves to mortgage long-term improvements for the short-term dopamine rush of social media approval. It's an activism based upon feeling good rather than doing good. Ideally they would be one and the same, but as soon as it became possible to divorce the two, people started taking the path of least resistance.
 
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