Donald Trump has tested positive for COVID-19

[Fistbeard_McThunderaxe]

I think he'll survive, but with health ramifications. Doesn't bode well for the rest of the campaign.

 

[It's HK-47]

Wrong. Here's Meadows asking to be off-the record, per universal agreement in effect since forever:

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Here's how it was reported out, again according to universal agreement:

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All of which is now being given out to entire White House press corps, though not for attribution.

That's just Meadows asking to speak off the record, there's no indication that what Meadows spoke about and this "anonymous source" are the same person. Journalists have every incentive to lie about this but if you want to spend the next two weeks believing every "according to sources familiar with" story that comes out every 15 minutes, be my guest.

You're going to have a very confusing two weeks.

 

[Josterman]

I think it's less that they're trying to start a panic and more that they really want him to die so they're shitposting aggressively to try and spin the facts we have in favor of that outcome.

So they are Evil then to an extent
I already want to see them on a terror watch list somewhere or be put in a black site prison

 

[Orange Man Costume]

I could turn out to be wrong and gay but I'm not nearly as worried about Trump as I was at the start, knowing now that he able to get a high dose of REGN-COV2, the supply has been mostly tied up with trials.

REGN-COV2's initial trial results are very, very good on both effectiveness and safety, though the numbers are only for the first 275 people so far with a total of 2000 so far on the way. He can expect that alone to reduce the virus by 50% to 99% depending on his viral load, the worse the infection, the better it works, though in practice it's still better to give it early to prevent a severe case from even happening. It has no major problems other than the usual chance of injection-related reactions that are the same as the placebo.

Remdesivir can be very effective but the latest results suggest it's useless if taken at peak infection or later, which makes it useless for any normal person going to the hospital for corona since by that point it's severe, but it's effectiveness from there scales up the earlier it is taken (think opposite of REGN-COV2) all the way up to the first 8 hours of infection. That could be taken as a hint that Trump's case is either considered very early or mild. It will inflame your liver though, you wouldn't give it to someone with liver problems.

He's also taking all the usual treatments and supplements, I'm not worried about Trump dieing directly from the virus, the stress on any pre-existing issues is what I'd worry about, hypertension or cholesterol. It only takes a kick if you're already standing at the edge.

Trump was barely on the line of elevated blood pressure in June at 121/79, you could argue that he has at least prehypertension, though he's right at the line between that and normal.

However, his cholesterol is bad enough that he takes rosuvastatin daily, presumably that's what's been freaking out his handlers and where the big risk is, and why he's at Walter Reed (hes also POTUS and they might have sent him there regardless), if he has a stroke, without miraculous luck on how it goes down (mini strokes are fully recoverable, regular strokes are not), hes fucked, and they'd have to watch him very closely if they want to block any clotting or strokes from ever happening in the first place.

 

[the fall of man]

I think he'll survive, but with health ramifications. Doesn't bode well for the rest of the campaign.

Roll twice on the physical mutations table and once on the mental mutations table. Double zero roll for psychic

 

[diroama]

That's just Meadows asking to speak off the record, there's no indication that what Meadows spoke about and this "anonymous source" are the same person. Journalists have every incentive to lie about this but if you want to spend the next two weeks believing every "according to sources familiar with" story that comes out every 15 minutes, be my guest.

You're going to have a very confusing two weeks.

If its two weeks before Trump's condition is clear then that only points to the anonymous source being correct.

 

[Who dat?]

Would it? What are the mortality rates for 74 year old obese people who are admitted into hospital with covid19?

~6 percent.

 

[Seregios (Att. at Law)]

I think it's less that they're trying to start a panic and more that they really want him to die so they're shitposting aggressively to try and spin the facts we have in favor of that outcome.

Long-ass time ago, homes. The first time I personally encountered this particular strain of pomo progressive bullshittery was sometime in 2008, but I sincerely doubt people were morally virtuous before then.

I agree fully. 2008 was my first voting election and I got glimpses of it but I assume the old guard died off and no longer able to keep the commie loving, demonic, hate-filled younger Dems in check this is what happens. They've always existed

Now for nothing but almost all of the right-sided people I know are deeply concerned for Sen. Biden with his dementia and truly care for the misguided left in general. Not saying the Right is Holy and unflawed but they certainly are more wholesome in action than the Left these days.

 

[Groundbreaking-maize]

Roll twice on the physical mutations table and once on the mental mutations table. Double zero roll for psychic

*Rolls dice*

Cloven feet. Huh.

 

[RockPaper]

Which is why Johnson - who occupies a similar role in the UK and wasn't admitted until over seven days after testing positive - offers a useful comparison.

I don't think trump would allow himself to be taken to hospital unless it was necessary tbh.

I don't think it's that useful, because again there are millions of cases with unique variables.

And I think Trump could easily be talked into it, even if he felt sorta-ok. "You're the President, we can't mess around here and not be extra careful."

We'll see soon enough whether Trump is very sick, or not.

 

[Groundbreaking-maize]

I agree fully. 2008 was my first voting election and I got glimpses of it but I assume the old guard died off and no longer able to keep the commie loving, demonic, hate-filled younger Dems in check this is what happens. They've always existed

Now for nothing but almost all of the right-sided people I know are deeply concerned for Sen. Biden with his dementia and truly care for the misguided left in general. Not saying the Right is Holy and unflawed but they certainly are more wholesome in action than the Left these days.

Proud boys are shining examples of morality in these troubled times.

 

[Polyboros2]

I overheard someone in a coffee shop say that Trump's Doctor slipped up at the press conference today, and revealed that Trump was in critical condition and that the doctors had no treatment schedule for him.



Reality really is subjective now.

 

[It's HK-47]

If its two weeks before Trump's condition is clear then that only points to the anonymous source being correct.

Yes, we'd never know about the 14-day quarantine guidelines were it not for the anonymous sources. A blessing upon them and their house.

 

[the fall of man]

*Rolls dice*

Cloven feet. Huh.

Dude, that’s not kosher.


Unless it chews the cud

 

[Least Concern]

Long-ass time ago, homes. The first time I personally encountered this particular strain of pomo progressive bullshittery was sometime in 2008, but I sincerely doubt people were morally virtuous before then.

I take it you're too zoomer to remember the W administration, then? The concept of "TDS" is actually a riff off of "BDS" - Bush Derangement Syndrome. Libs were flipping out about that guy, too; celebrities promising to move to Canada if he got elected/reelected and then not following through. Hell, W won his first term with a minority of votes but an electoral college victory just like Trump did. There's a whole lot of similarity in lefty and media (but I repeat myself) behavior towards the two, though perhaps Trump has it worse seeing as how cancerous social media is far more prevalent now.

I was of course a lot younger and less politically-aware during the Reagan and Bush Sr. administrations, but I really don't remember it being as vitriolic.

 

[Glad I couldn't help]

Update on GOP coronavirus cluster:

• Senator Ron Johnson (R-WI)
• Governor Chris Christie (R-NJ)

have got the gift.

 

[Who dat?]

From John Roberts at Fox News:

However, a senior administration official told Fox News that on Friday morning, Trump was showing troubling signs of a possible progression from mild to more severe form of the disease.

The official said that medical professionals moved quickly and decided to transfer the President to Walter Reed out of an abundance of caution over what was seen as a very concerning trajectory of disease progression.

“Twenty-four hours ago, there was real concern about the President’s vitals," the official said. "For the past 12 hours, there has been zero concern.”

The official added: “Early indications are for an extremely good prognosis - but the next 48 hours will be critical.”

 

[Smug Cat]

Would it? What are the mortality rates for 74 year old obese people who are admitted into hospital with covid19?

I'm seeing estimates between .28% and 5%. Either way the odds are overwhelming that he'll be fine.

So they are Evil then to an extent
I already want to see them on a terror watch list somewhere or be put in a black site prison

You want people to be put on a watch list or CIA black site for being edgy on the internet?

I agree fully. 2008 was my first voting election and I got glimpses of it but I assume the old guard died off and no longer able to keep the commie loving, demonic, hate-filled younger Dems in check this is what happens. They've always existed

Now for nothing but almost all of the right-sided people I know are deeply concerned for Sen. Biden with his dementia and truly care for the misguided left in general. Not saying the Right is Holy and unflawed but they certainly are more wholesome in action than the Left these days.

I think a lot of this depends on who is in power, tbh. The reason the left has gone batshit fucking insane is because the republican party is in power on a national level and that sense of powerlessness breeds desperation, which breeds extremism. The right can afford, on a personal emotional level, to be more magnanimous. The sides going into histrionics at every possible opportunity were reversed during Obama's presidency. Granted, things are more contentious in general now than they were then. The right had their own version of TDS with Obama, but there was no kung flu and nobody was burning down cities.

 

[Michael Jacks0n]

I take it you're too zoomer to remember the W administration, then? The concept of "TDS" is actually a riff off of "BDS" - Bush Derangement Syndrome. Libs were flipping out about that guy, too; celebrities promising to move to Canada if he got elected/reelected and then not following through. Hell, W won his first term with a minority of votes but an electoral college victory just like Trump did. There's a whole lot of similarity in lefty and media (but I repeat myself) behavior towards the two, though perhaps Trump has it worse seeing as how cancerous social media is far more prevalent now.

I was of course a lot younger and less politically-aware during the Reagan and Bush Sr. administrations, but I really don't remember it being as vitriolic.

Yep, I was in my teens at the times, and I recall like every pop punk band circle jerking over their mutual hatred of Dubya and the War in Iraq. Before social media was a thing, I used to post on gaming message boards like IGN and GameSpot, and like 2/3rds of the users had anti-Dubya avatars like bad Photoshop of him as a monkey or Pinocchio. In 2004, I wasn't quite old enough to vote yet, but my older friends were diehard Kerry fanboys who kept flaunting some cringey shit on Xanga and MySpace about kicking the GOP out of the White House by using the DNC donkey kicking the elephant. One of my older brothers was a Gen-Xer who forced me to watch a bunch of these shitty anti-Dubya videos on some site like break.com or eBaums World, and he was big Michael Moore fan too who tried to get me to watch Bowling For Columbine with him. BDS was just early TDS indeed, and we can blame Twitter for amplifying it to 11.

 

[zap2theextreme]

Anybody who is wishing death for anyone but the Chinese government official who failed to stop this shit is a monster beyond redemption.
This shows how depraved and sickening the Left in America is to be celebrating this.

Side question, when did Americans and progressives become so wrapped up in politics they tossed their humanity/morality aside?

I love my beautiful angelic little cherub of a president! I love COVID, the unemployment, the evictions, the blood red skies, and the falling ash. I love the police state, the surplus military equipment, the surveillance drones, and the secret police he encourages to brutalize and kidnap us. I love the deranged Q-cult that hangs on his every word and the militia groups that kill people in his name.
WE LOVE DONALD TRUMP!

Donald Trump is dead, long live TRUMP!