2016 U.S. Presidential Election

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Oh God. I'm already hearing and seeing the feminists go wild over Clinton.

Wait till the feminists find out that Hillary Clinton defended a male pedophile that abused a young girl in the past. And laughed at said victim. Hell, there are some feminists that know about this and have been advocating AGAINST voting Hillary because of it. Well, at least some feminists know that Clinton is full of shit.

As an observer from the radical left, I've been paying a bit more attention to the Democratic nomination (although I will likely vote for a third-party candidate since a socialist or communist will never get the Democratic nomination). A lot of American socialists are flipping their shit over Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders (the latter of whom openly identifies as a democratic socialist).

My take on these two? Neither would be likely to get my vote, although Sanders is a bit more likely. Warren trots out a lot of big talk that's very attractive to socialists, liberals and progressives (especially young lefties), but doesn't back it up on issues that are truly important to "my people" (like Israeli-Palestinian conflict, police violence against racial minorities, etc.) She also seems really disingenuous to me in an icky sort of way that I don't know how to articulate.

Sanders has a bit more appeal as the only open socialist in Congress, but suffers from some of the same problems. He's pro-Israel (which is a real problem if he wants to form any kind of coalition between the Democrats and groups like the Greens, Socialist Alternative or DSA) and so far seems to be mostly talk with little action. A lot of radical leftists are also pretty skeptical as to whether he can truly be called a "socialist" or not given his willingness to work with the Democrats (although those arguments mostly consist of "no true Scotsman" fallacies and Marxist circlejerks).

I'm still not sure what the third-party scene is going to be - rumor has it that Jill Stein will run with the Greens again, and Kshama Sawant from Socialist Alternative has been pegged as a possible candidate.

According to this, I seem to have similar views to Bernie Sanders. That being said, because of his socialist views, he is probably not likely to get nominated. Plus, people know more about Hillary than the other candidates meaning that she is probably gonna get nominated. That being said, as a liberal/left-leaning person, if Clinton gets nominated, I'm voting Green Party.
 
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According to this, I seem to have similar views to Bernie Sanders.
According to that quiz, I side with Marco Rubio on 99% of the issues; I'll have to look into him.

In any case, I'm really not worried about Clinton in the least. All the scandals surrounding her notwithstanding, people just don't like her, even most liberals.
 
I too got Rubio when I took the test. I haven't even paid attention to the dude. Then again, I didn't change most of the important factors out of laziness, so I could have gotten some one different. Who knows.

It also said that I side with Constitution 91%, Republicans 87%, Libertarians 80% (?), and Democrats 43% (no major issues)
 
Looks like my beliefs become more republican as I get older and crankier.
I just wish they would shut up about abortion and anti-gay marriage though.
Rand Paul looks like who I'll be voting for SO FAR... but I need to do more research.
 
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I did a quick Google search on that and one of the first links that popped up was something from Infowars, followed by The Daily Caller from last year, a Daily Mail link and a New York Post article. See a pattern there?
We'll know it's for real if Newsmax can independently verify it.
 
Rick Santorum jumped into the Republican race today. Tomorrow, George Pataki will announce his run, and next week Lindsey Graham and Rick Perry will jump in. Martin O'Malley will announce his Democratic bid on Saturday. So far, the following Democrats and Republicans are officially running or will announce a bid within the week:

Democrats
Hillary Clinton
Martin O'Malley
Bernie Sanders

Republicans
Ben Carson
Ted Cruz
Mark Everson
Carly Fiorina
Lindsey Graham
Mike Huckabee
George Pataki
Rand Paul
Rick Perry
Marco Rubio
Rick Santorum

Also expected to run are Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, Bobby Jindal, John Kasich, Scott Walker, Lincoln Chafee, and Jim Webb.
 
As an observer from the radical left, I've been paying a bit more attention to the Democratic nomination (although I will likely vote for a third-party candidate since a socialist or communist will never get the Democratic nomination). A lot of American socialists are flipping their shit over Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders (the latter of whom openly identifies as a democratic socialist).

My take on these two? Neither would be likely to get my vote, although Sanders is a bit more likely. Warren trots out a lot of big talk that's very attractive to socialists, liberals and progressives (especially young lefties), but doesn't back it up on issues that are truly important to "my people" (like Israeli-Palestinian conflict, police violence against racial minorities, etc.) She also seems really disingenuous to me in an icky sort of way that I don't know how to articulate.

Sanders has a bit more appeal as the only open socialist in Congress, but suffers from some of the same problems. He's pro-Israel (which is a real problem if he wants to form any kind of coalition between the Democrats and groups like the Greens, Socialist Alternative or DSA) and so far seems to be mostly talk with little action. A lot of radical leftists are also pretty skeptical as to whether he can truly be called a "socialist" or not given his willingness to work with the Democrats (although those arguments mostly consist of "no true Scotsman" fallacies and Marxist circlejerks).

I'm still not sure what the third-party scene is going to be - rumor has it that Jill Stein will run with the Greens again, and Kshama Sawant from Socialist Alternative has been pegged as a possible candidate.

I'll prolly just vote for whoever the Dummycrats slop onto the table just to prevent the Republicunts and Libretardians from wrecking the country even more.... again. Sanders would be nice, but... too much of a long shot.

Since it's all related, I feel that Sanders is too good to be true. All of his ideas are great but I can't help but get that he won't be as great as he's selling himself out to be.
 
Since it's all related, I feel that Sanders is too good to be true. All of his ideas are great but I can't help but get that he won't be as great as he's selling himself out to be.
What exactly is Sanders promising? I understand that he's a full-blown socialist, but I haven't heard any of his actual plans.
 
Of that massively crowded Republican field, I'd say only Paul, Rubio and Bush are serious candidates. Maybe Cruz on the outside.

Seriously though, George Pataki is running? Did he hit his head and start thinking it was 2000 again?
Yeah, Pataki's announcement will be in about 7.5 hours in Exeter, NH. No way in Hell he'll win the nomination, but if he does well enough (and if someone younger, without executive experience, weakness on national security, and/or is too far right), he might have a shot at the VP slot.
 
Yeah, Pataki's announcement will be in about 7.5 hours in Exeter, NH. No way in Hell he'll win the nomination, but if he does well enough (and if someone younger, without executive experience, weakness on national security, and/or is too far right), he might have a shot at the VP slot.

I'd say even that is a stretch. He might get to be Secretary of something or other, I suppose.
 
Ron Paul and Jeb Bush are probably the ONLY Republicans I could ever take seriously, TBH... Too bad I can't help but feel we might get dragged into more pointless wars if another Republican takes office, but that isn't limited to them, either. We just need more sane conservatives working alongside these liberals, if that means anything.

Seriously though, it's like everyday, I can't help but feel anarchy is the only solution to too many of America's problems - and I hate feeling that way. If anarchy ever comes to this nation... It will never recover from it. Ever. I could still be a frustrated teenager and still see everything wrong with that thinking (and I used to think like this would make America, and the world, a better place. I WAS A FOOL and deserved every bit of cursing out my parents gave me for thinking like this.).
 
Lindsey Graham will be taking the stage in about ten minutes to announce his presidential bid.
 
I'm a Rand Paul fan, but honestly I hope sanders gets the Dem nomination. He may be a an avowed socialist, but he at least seems like an honest dude and we could use some more of that. Most main line Democrats and Republicans are at least as big of socialists as sanders anyway, they're just afraid of the word. On top of that, sanders seems to at least care about people's non-economic freedoms.
 
Since it's all related, I feel that Sanders is too good to be true. All of his ideas are great but I can't help but get that he won't be as great as he's selling himself out to be.
Eh that kind of critique is better for someone who promises a lot but then disappoints once they get in (like Obama). Sanders will never be President so he can promise the world on a platter and still retain a fan following because he will never face the obstacles and oppositions of reality in office. Basically he has nothing to lose because he will never have to deliver.
 
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