2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Telling an obvious polling call "Fuck you, I'm not answering" isn't despondency, you low-rent clown. It's the opposite.
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The argument is that since Trump is pulling back a bit from Iowa and Ohio in terms of TV ads, that means he's giving up. No word if the same logic ever applied to Biden pulling back from Florida.
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I would think the reverse. He's far enough ahead in both states that the ads would do more good elsewhere.
 
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The right is full of older voters who vote no matter what. The left is full of voters who have to be prodded heavily into voting and have to be "inspired" to vote.

There's a group who's less likely to turn out, but not the one he thinks.
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Yeah but how many boomer Trump voters have died since 2016 and have been replaced by zoomers who are voting for the first time and grew up being pumped full of IdPol bullshit? It'll be interesting to see.
 
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I can get pandering can be a problem but is this really a problem?
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Not really, per se? I might be transferring my ire at idpol and anti-white rhetoric to him, and acting like the MSM where, since he hasn't said anything pro-white, he's obviously anti-white. Not that I think that, but using hyperbolic statements to get my feelings across.

I was admittedly upset by him pushing something job-related that was for blacks and Hispanics only, or at the very least aimed primarily at minorities, when I want a foundation that is aimed towards helping white people succeed.

Thank you for challenging me on this, as it made me articulate my thoughts more and helped me realize that where the fault actually lies is not with Trump, but moreso with globohomo who is the reason nothing like it exists in the first place.
 
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I did my part today. I voted early and in-person at my local county's registrar of voters office. Voted straight red down the ticket and voted against most of the propositions on the ballot (I still can't believe they tried to put a proposition that allows affirmative action policies.)

It was a slightly confusing process (had to sign in, surrender my mail-in ballot, and they sent me to a room that contained a good amount of ballot-marking devices after giving me a smart card).

I know Trump will probably not win the state of California, but it felt good and there were a good amount of local offices on the ballot where I could have my say. Also I wanted to be a part of giving Trump the popular vote victory in case it happens.
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I'm actually hoping to do the same in my swing state next week. He more than likely won't win California, given the exodus of red voters; however, whatever vote for Trump will count in the long run if he manages to snag the popular vote, too. It'll shut down what argument will be made whenever they decide to bring up the popular vote last time, though I expect them to double down on the "America is bigoted," sentiment. On a related note, I live on the outskirts of a liberal county, and all I've seen around my area are Trump signs, which is a first. There's only one couple with a Biden sign, but they're from New York, so that's no surprise.

With that said, this election is intense, more than 2016 due to the influx of misinformation over the last 4 years, such as Trump's Charlottesville response. I'm also worried about potentially losing a friend, as she's not fond of Trump at all and she's one of those "Republicans and conservatives are dumb and bad" types, despite me pushing back on that with the fact that I could be considered conservative given the situation (I consider myself a conservative liberal), but she brushed it off as me just being a lover of guns. Even with a list of his accomplishments, she remains unconvinced. Another friend refuses to vote Biden or Trump, however, he earned my ire a bit when he talked about the Proud Boys statement Trump made at the debate, saying, "Why didn't he just condemn white supremacy?" When I countered that he has in the past, he could only say, "Why not do it again?" Ironically, the only person I don't even worry about losing my friendship with is a progressive who respects my decision, as she says that I have my reasoning.

When all is said and done, we're about to see who are real friends really are, especially someone like me who's reluctantly voting Trump.
 
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I'm actually hoping to do the same in my swing state next week. He more than likely won't win California, given the exodus of red voters; however, whatever vote for Trump will count in the long run if he manages to snag the popular vote, too. It'll shut down what argument will be made whenever they decide to bring up the popular vote last time, though I expect them to double down on the "America is bigoted," sentiment. On a related note, I live on the outskirts of a liberal county
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All I can say is that I don't mind Trump not winning California. I just hope that Trump gets like... 40 or 41% of the vote in the state, enough that we can flip several congressional districts back to Republicans, especially in places like Orange County and CA-25 (I have no doubt that Mike Garcia will retain it).
 
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Yeah but how many boomer Trump voters have died since 2016 and have been replaced by zoomers who are voting for the first time and grew up being pumped full of IdPol bullshit? It'll be interesting to see.
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Are zoomers that left wing? I assumed the opposite based on all those "my son is getting radicalized by online Nazis!" clickbait articles that get posted every week.
 
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Yeah but how many boomer Trump voters have died since 2016 and have been replaced by zoomers who are voting for the first time and grew up being pumped full of IdPol bullshit? It'll be interesting to see.
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I don't know. Has the "conservatives/Republicans are dying off" really ever come into fruition? Much to the left's chagrin. I don't see how many zoomers are going to be motivated to vote for Biden/Harris either, since young voters need to feel "inspired" to vote.

Also: The Democratic Party thought that they were untouchable and had permanent executive power after winning with Obama twice. Things can change very quickly; they're not as strong or appealing as they think they are.
 
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All I can say is that I don't mind Trump not winning California. I just hope that Trump gets like... 40 or 41% of the vote in the state, enough that we can flip several congressional districts back to Republicans, especially in places like Orange County and CA-25 (I have no doubt that Mike Garcia will retain it).
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I have no illusions about California flipping red either, not for at least another 50 years. I will be going out to cast my protest vote for Trump anyway and to vote for/against the propositions. I do have a bad feeling about the affirmative action proposition however, what with the trajectory California's been on and the entire CA Democratic machine throwing their weight behind it.
 
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Here’s an interesting take from Crowder:
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Crowder makes some good points here that the election is hard to call, and that Trump definitely needs to adapt to a new strategy to win. Pence probably did make things easier by debunking the Charlottesville hoax and making Kamala not look like someone fit for the Oval Office.
 
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Are zoomers that left wing? I assumed the opposite based on all those "my son is getting radicalized by online Nazis!" clickbait articles that get posted every week.
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Most of them can't vote yet and we don't really know how they're gonna lean by the time they're voting age.

There's this idea that younger people are going to drift right to "rebel" against the corporate media left, but culture doesn't work that fast. I think we're seeing two modes of counterculture co-existing at the same time, hard right AND hard left. And most people don't fall into either camp.

Over a long period time, the people in the center eventually begin accepting the hard lefty positions that were once considered absurd, because accepting them as banal is the path of least resistance when you just wanna grill for pete's sake. That's how the left has made major strides in the culture war despite being completely obnoxious and offputting every step of the way.
 
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Are zoomers that left wing? I assumed the opposite based on all those "my son is getting radicalized by online Nazis!" clickbait articles that get posted every week.
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The thing with Generation Z is that there is a very stark divide between the Early Zoomers born in the very late 90's and the Core Zoomers born in the 2000's who are just now going to vote.

The former tends to skew very woke leftist same as the Late Millennials while the latter tends to be more of a centrist liberal or even conservative bent as a whole. The typical Core Zoomer is more left-leaning than the typical Boomer but more right-leaning than the typical Millennial (especially Late Millennials) and are a lot more like Generation X in how they're going to trend.

But the Corona lockdowns and the BLM coup have thrown a monkey wrench into a lot of these predictions and it could very well cause a rightward shift. A lot of Core Zoomer boys are going to get "red pilled" by the 2020 shitshow and a lot of Core Zoomer girls will get "purple pilled" as well.

The question is will they vote for Trump as a protest vote or will they give up and stay home en masse?

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Most of them can't vote yet and we don't really know how they're gonna lean by the time they're voting age.

There's this idea that younger people are going to drift right to "rebel" against the corporate media left, but culture doesn't work that fast. I think we're seeing two modes of counterculture co-existing at the same time, hard right AND hard left. And most people don't fall into either camp.

Over a long period time, the people in the center eventually begin accepting the hard lefty positions that were once considered absurd, because accepting them as banal is the path of least resistance when you just wanna grill for pete's sake. That's how the left has made major strides in the culture war despite being completely obnoxious and offputting every step of the way.
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The problem with why the Left was able to win the culture war was mainly because of the Right had spent most of the previous culture war in a similar position of moral authoritarianism except it was Christian traditionalist as opposed to Identity Politics/Anarcho-Communist.

Most of the "I just want to grill" centrist types gravitated leftward for decades because the traditionalists are bugfuck insane and the Left seemed a lot more reasonable than the hardliner moral conservatives.

Now the tables have turned and it's the Woke Left who are the moral zealots while the Religious Right are at best impotent and in severe decline or outright dead and irrelevant at worst.
 
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