2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Pelosi pulls the trigger and goes full retard.
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Also, the money thing (not your post) is a bit misleading because Trump's supporters are likely more willing to spend money on Trump memorabilia than Biden's supporters are willing to spend on Biden memorabilia. Even the most enthusiastic supporter's votes are only worth as much as the least enthusiastic supporter's
Biden lacks a consistent slogan or tagline as well.

Should've plastered BBB all over. Build Back Better. That sounds ok.
 
Also, the money thing (not your post) is a bit misleading because Trump's supporters are likely more willing to spend money on Trump memorabilia than Biden's supporters are willing to spend on Biden memorabilia. Even the most enthusiastic supporter's votes are only worth as much as the least enthusiastic supporter's

Enthusiasm aligns with the number of supporters who will vote, not the value of each person's vote.
 
Pelosi pulls the trigger and goes full retard.
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Like I said, this is a publicity stunt to put the focus on Trump’s health until the election. Reserve your excitement until the final results of the Pennsylvania’s voter registration data shows up.

@knobslobbin - dang shame I can’t watch it live. Hopefully I can view later.
 
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Regardless of one’s political leanings, how is this in anyway a good tactical move?

If you wanted to delay ACB’s appointment, buy out Romney, bring up ACB’s questionable writings on the issue of voting rights, and avoid slamming her Catholicism.

Whenever Trump makes political errors, Nancy Pelosi and other leaders of the Democratic Party seem to respond with even worse moves.
 
Like I said, this is a publicity stunt to put the focus on Trump’s health until the election. Reserve your excitement until the final results of the Pennsylvania’s voter registration data shows up.

@knobslobbin - dang shame I can’t watch it live. Hopefully I can view later.

Man, you are still starstruck with the stimulus talks breaking down. I was the first to mention looking at PA registrations for an uptick in Biden support in weeks because of it. You don't get the fact if you have 20 news storys happening, one after the other, it all becomes noise.

Isn't the phrase "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake?"

Pelosi should have just kept to the script and hammered Trump on stimulus talks if it mattered. By manufacturing this obvious publicity stunt, she once again invokes impeachment while drowning out the stimulus story. This move in particular requires the media to focus the narrative on Trump's health, further drowning stimulus articles and narratives. This is a losing play because Trump is rallying again, shown to be the same as he was a week ago. This does not help in any way towards Biden's cause.
 
American Catholics aren't quite as conservative as Protestant Christian conservatives, in 2016 45% of them went with pro-abortion Clinton, being pro-abortion should net you around 0% of the Catholic vote if they're actually devout in their faith as Catholic doctrine strictly condemns abortion while in the Protestant camp 56% went with Trump.

Among black Protestants they went with Hillary by 96% while whites went with Trump by around 77%

Interestingly white non-hispanic Catholics went with Trump the most, by around 64% while hispanic Catholics sided with Hillary with 78% voting for her.

Religious people that tend to go Church the most often went with Trump while those that rarely or seldom go went with Hillary which ties back in with the Catholic thing because observant Catholics are shrinking as a group in America.

This "Catholic doctrine says no abortions" bullshit, I don't know where it comes from, but as an ex-catholic living in a predominantly catholic country, it's pure unadulterated bollocks. And the stupidity starts at "catholic doctrine", yeah ehm... The Catholic Church has no single doctrine ya dummies. In fact the catholic church isn't even a single church at all, it's a conglomerate of about 20-something churches.

Quite simply, Papal infalibility hasn't been a thing since it was quite literally outlawed during the sodding renaissance. As the church stands, the doctrine of the catholics isn't centralized at all, instead its decided by the local Bishop Councils, which for Spain for instance is the Episcopado but the name and powers change by region.

The Pope does have Veto power, which means that whenever the local powers wish to make a change in doctrine he can send it back and say "draft it again", but he can't force changes, nor can he dictate a doctrine at all except for the vatican itself.

Because of this, the doctrines change wildly by region, and indeed plenty of doctrines are pro-abortion or at least neutral on the issue. The vatican is anti-abortion, but the rest of the catholic church need not be.

This is specially relevant to "the eastern churches" which have extremely different but even amongst "Roman Catholics", doctrine can change quite a bit, for example the Spanish Episcopado declared the civil war of 1936 a holy crussade despite vatican doctrine declaring neutrality years earlier, and the spanish church suffered no consequences because in fact they had not accepted such change in doctrine, so they had no duty to uphold it.

My point is, the American Catholic church is one of the smallest Catholic Church Branches, with the least bishops, because of it their doctrine has changed the fastest amongst western catholics. Do not expect them to uphold vatican doctrine during the elections, you can probably expect catholic migrants to follow similar ideologies to the regional doctrines they come from, but that's about it, and abortion is not something these doctrines agree on, so it won't be as decissive as some in this board seem to think.
 
As a Europoor and generally unfamiliar with U.S. talk radio, how big of an audience does Rush have? How many people would be listening in right now and will this have any significance or are these all Trump supporters already?
 
As a Europoor and generally unfamiliar with U.S. talk radio, how big of an audience does Rush have? How many people would be listening in right now and will this have any significance or are these all Trump supporters already?
It's estimated at 15.5 million weekly listeners.


If you take it over a week, that's about 3 million listeners/day. So probably somewhere north of 3, 3.5 million people listening as a conservative estimate.

Edit: And on whether this will have any effect, I think so. If only because it's a long show being done unedited. I've been listening, and I can predict there won't be many more "Trump is dying, listen to his coughing!!!" news stories. He sounds absolutely normal. As a counter to the health stories, it's a big deal.

This is the first time I'm listening to radio in...more than a decade? And I'm somewhere on the zoomer/millenial borderline. If I'm listening to it, I assume a bunch of people without any real connection to talk radio will be tuning in as well.
 
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As a Europoor and generally unfamiliar with U.S. talk radio, how big of an audience does Rush have? How many people would be listening in right now and will this have any significance or are these all Trump supporters already?
He's big enough for liberals to have a perpetual hateboner for him. Boomers like my dad have listened to him for decades now.
 
Trump sounds perfectly fine listening to him that's going to make TDS go off the scale (THIS WAS ALL AN IMPERSONATOR), not any kind of Biden staffers holding him up with strings.

You hear some ruffling in the background and I like to think it's him eating McDonald's and drinking diet coke. I just heard while Rush was asking him a question what sounded like him sucking on a glass of Diet Coke with the ice, fabulous ice, great ice.
 
He's big enough for liberals to have a perpetual hateboner for him. Boomers like my dad have listened to him for decades now.

And he's always been playing in the background, growing up. I've also met a lot of millennials who had the same experience, and for that reason largely don't hate the man nearly as much as his contemporaries do.

I've also known quite a few who left the Left, after listening to Limbaugh again when they got older; even after being fairly rabid libs early on.
 
I'm calling it. Trump wins. Like I've said about impeachment voters like to think they are the ones with the power to remove elected officials. This will go over about as well as impeachment did.

It's not meant to do the same thing as Impeachment did. The goal isn't to actually remove him via 25th. I don't know the specifics, but the 25th doesn't work in the way it's being presented.

The rather obvious plan is to
  • Raise lingering doubts about Trump's health, especially his mental health
  • Amplify any gaffs Trump makes for the next month AND OR silence Trump from public speaking
  • Solidify discussion on COVID19, the one winning issue the DNC has at this point
  • Delay or prevent any nomination of ACB to the SCOTUS
Then, as close to 11/3 as humanly possible, Nancy's hand picked committee of DNC true believers and GOP Never-Trump Swamp Creatures will put out a "bipartisan recommendation" that Trump be removed from office because he obviously has something wrong with him.

Thus, having that fresh in undecided and moderate voters' minds on election day.

This is the October surprise. They've been planning it for months.

I would go so far as to suggest they intentionally infected Trump -- and, given that Deadline article that leaked early, planned to intentionally infect Pence -- with COVID19 to do it, but admittedly that might be a stretch.

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And they had better fucking hurry up with talking about COVID, because Trump's taking that off the table.

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And Trump has the perfect response to the 25th thing, too.

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It's not meant to do the same thing as Impeachment did. The goal isn't to actually remove him via 25th. I don't know the specifics, but the 25th doesn't work in the way it's being presented.

The rather obvious plan is to
  • Raise lingering doubts about Trump's health, especially his mental health
  • Amplify any gaffs Trump makes for the next month AND OR silence Trump from public speaking
  • Solidify discussion on COVID19, the one winning issue the DNC has at this point
  • Delay or prevent any nomination of ACB to the SCOTUS
Then, as close to 11/3 as humanly possible, Nancy's hand picked committee of DNC true believers and GOP Never-Trump Swamp Creatures will put out a "bipartisan recommendation" that Trump be removed from office because he obviously has something wrong with him.

Thus, having that fresh in undecided and moderate voters' minds on election day.

This is the October surprise. They've been planning it for months.

I would go so far as to suggest they intentionally infected Trump -- and, given that Deadline article that leaked early, planned to intentionally infect Pence -- with COVID19 to do it, but admittedly that might be a stretch.

I imagine to the average voter will see it as the same thing though. This seems like a real Hail Mary by Pelosi. I'm talking being 2-1 down with a corner kick in injury time and bringing your goalkeeper down field to put another man in the box kind of Hail Mary.
 
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