U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

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Goldman said:
Boiled broccoli is so mushy, it's awful. Lots of parents just don't care to cook food right. I used to hate thin steaks until I learned that I only hated them because they were cooked to death to the point where I couldn't chew it.
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Boiled frozen broccoli can be good if you put a little effort into a sauce for it. Hell, even a little bit of butter and parmesan on it does the job. If you have access to a steamer and raw broccoli it'd be better but, y'know, money time.

Pork and chicken are the most victimized foods of incompetent cooks. That's why poor eaters always like them deep fried and slathered in sauce. Those are the best ways to serve them overcooked. But if you cook them correctly they are tender and delicious as is and lose the bland bootleather awfulness.
 
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MCLOS Horthy said:
What I'm getting here, is that this communist insurgency has been brought about by people's parents that grew up in the 70s (when boiling everything was the way food was made apparently) boiled their shitty food and forced their kids to eat it. This in turn creates a huge amount of shitty kids that hate their parents and western society in general. Thanks, 1970s.

Also, boiling? Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Boiling Food Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Get Out The Kitchen Like Nigga Turn The Stove Off Haha
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I think it goes back farther. During the great depression, when a lot of people went without a lot of stuff, set individuals in a certain way. These individuals later had baby boomers who were used to their parents way of cooking (choke down that boiled broccoli, at least you get to eat tonight. Children are seen and not heard). That gave way to the gen x/latchkey kids as a lot of boomers were apathetic in terms of meals and food cause they weren't taught that salt and pepper are magical substances simply because they were hard to come by for their parents.

Gen X I guess didn't experiment with food either and then had kids, both parents have to work so here's a McDonalds; please be quiet for the next 6 hours.

Which brings us to today, where gen y doesn't know how to cook let alone have family meal time
 
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Kiwi Lime Pie said:
Enforcement involving roadside signs is inconsistent at best. I've seen signs that clearly appear to be in places they shouldn't be get overlooked whereas others that are marginally out of compliance at best are strictly cracked down on. I've also seen signs that advertise questionable/shady products and services have their numbers blacked out with markers or spray paint.

Given how inconsistent sign enforcement can be, it's not totally implausible that the sign was targeted for who was being endorsed.
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The thing is, Political Signs are extra taboo to fuck with, be it "REEEEEEEEE THIS SUPPORTS <other guy>!" or as enforcement of city ordinances. Even if the city is in the right, its an issue of the 1A and "censorship" (either by law or by optics). Political Speech in the US historically and culturally is viewed as "untouchable" (with exception of the left and "hate speech"), to the point where at one time porn videos would include some sort of political statement (e.g. "We need to pull out of Vietnam"), to get around anti porn laws.

Even if the city was in the right to remove it, other solutions needed to be done (and documented so if it becomes an issue the city can say to the public "here is proof we tried to work it out with this person, they refused to take corrective action") first, such as "your sign is in violation of blah blah blah, please remove the sign with in x days and place it somewhere where it is allowed", and slowly escalating from there.

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Maybe one of our legal kiwis can chime in, but booby traps such as these can be illegal for some reason or another. If the razors were situated the way they looked in the picture, an innocent person who bumped into that sign the wrong way could get cut up pretty bad through no fault of their own.
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Given that it is basically highly illegal to booby trap your house/land/etc, I would assume it would be the same for the sign.
 
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Bakarina said:
I think it goes back farther. During the great depression, when a lot of people went without a lot of stuff, set individuals in a certain way. These individuals later had baby boomers who were used to their parents way of cooking (choke down that boiled broccoli, at least you get to eat tonight. Children are seen and not heard). That gave way to the gen x/latchkey kids as a lot of boomers were apathetic in terms of meals and food cause they weren't taught that salt and pepper are magical substances simply because they were hard to come by for their parents.

Gen X I guess didn't experiment with food either and then had kids, both parents have to work so here's a McDonalds; please be quiet for the next 6 hours.

Which brings us to today, where gen y doesn't know how to cook let alone have family meal time
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I'll second that. My parents were "Lost Generation" and grew up just after the Depression ended. Mom used to make ribs by boiling the shit out of them, then covering them with ketchup and vinegar. It wasn't until I was in my 30s and went to a restaurant that smoked them properly, that I realized that ribs were actually supposed to taste good. It wasn't Mom's fault that she couldn't make ribs, - she just did it the way her aunts had told her to.

Also, Chinese food. I hated Chinese food growing up because when our family had it, it was "Chun King Chow Mein in a can." Gross. It wasn't until I got to college that I realized that Chinese food is actually a lot of different dishes, and that it didn't have to be some puke-vomit pile of celery poured onto burned bread noodles and topped with sprouts.
 
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FatalTater said:
If there was ever a case for some sort of Illuminati/Aliens/Supreme Being tampering with how America is doing, these long-term changes to society would be a good thing to research. I swear we are all in somebody's Sims game and they've gotten bored with just taking the ladder out of the pool.

Back in the 1970s and 1980s it was pushed SO much that women not only could get jobs out side the home but could and should excel at them. Nothing wrong with that BUT the way it was held up as a superior way of life compared with the traditional female roles, little girls were actively discouraged from saying they wanted to grow up and be a mom or housewife, even if that was what they actually wanted.

Remember the "Mommy Wars" that were mentioned in every women's magazine for a while there? Working mom vs Stay-At-Home mom (cause saying housewife is sexist I guess)

Remember when couples having problems used to try to stay together anyway becoming, if anything is slightly annoying about your spouse, divorce immediately?

Now we have adults that were raised by strangers even though they have a mom and dad, because daycare-preschool-full day kindergarten happened. Do we really have to wonder why they join cults and terrorist organizations?

Don't get me started on the damage done by pushing so many kids into therapy. Look at common brainwash techniques then look at Cognative Behavior Therapy. Then add in medications like SSRIs and what they do to the brain.

Bah.
I'm going to go drink some more coffee and check out the Ag Report. Maybe refill the bird feeders.
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PaleTay said:
I always hated the idea of traditional family dinners, it's the idea that consumption = socialization and they just get so boring. A lot of people see them preparing kids for a lifetime of weddings, bars, and dinner dates as a positive which is weird. I think the copious consumption is the natural evolution of that.

Trad wives especially get pissed at me for that opinion but a lot of the have no skills, or talents and just force their kids to spend an hour a day with them without their electronics or work. If parents spent that time with their kids exploring different hobbies and skills (art, sports, music, exploring nature and so on), we wouldn't have that problem.
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I agree that often the "family dinner" can seem like a drag and in truth it has led to things like "the clean plate club" or "no dessert til you finish your dinner" which has had a small part of the rampant obesity we see in the U.S.

But akchually, sharing a family meal serves a much greater purpose than consumption and has a large place in the evolution of human society.

Let's go back just a few thousand years and get a quick glimpse into the history of meal sharing. The males of the family group would hunt and (hopefully) bring back meat to the family. The actual hunters would be rewarded with the choicest and largest share of the hunt. That made sense, since they need the additional caloric intake to supply them with the health, strength and energy needed to continue to supply the family group with sustenance.
Then the divving up of the rest of the meat would begin. Who was pregnant and needed additional nutrition? Who prepared and supplemented the meals with foraged food? Who was old and infirm and unable to contribute to the meals? Who was just a worthless leech and wanted more than their share? Disagreements would be discussed.

Gathering for meals was a time when all members of the group were assessed, deals were made, health or illness was determined, plans for future meals, all manner of things relating to the survival of the group was determined.

Here, back in the present time, shared meal time does or should serve much the same purpose. The most important thing about shared meals is COMMUNICATION. Verbal and non-verbal communication. Is Dad stressed? Is little brother unusually quiet? Not to mention learning simple etiquette making tribe cohesion much more peaceful.

So yep...I'm one of those who believes that something as simple as a shared meal can go a long way to making humans a little more pleasant and able to manage when they are out in the larger world.

ETA: Totally agree with you about the importance of sharing other time in things like hobbies, sports, etc. But barring that, family meals is the bare minimum that should be done teach and learn to be human.

Edit2: @ShortBusDriver just said in a few words what I just sperged on and on about...
 
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Botchy Galoop said:
I agree that often the "family dinner" can seem like a drag and in truth it has led to things like "the clean plate club" or "no dessert til you finish your dinner" which has had a small part of the rampant obesity we see in the U.S.
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I disagree here. None of these practices is new. What has changed is that food is so plentiful and cheap that we allow diners at the table to refuse to eat food based solely on distaste even though it is perfectly healthy to consume. We have become very picky and gorge ourselves on the tastier fare and ignore anything that might be the slightest bit unpalatable. This was simply not the case before when food was more scare and you damn well better learn to love your boiled turnips and rutabagas because that is all we have to eat.

Another horrifying trend is that instead of just fessing up to being picky eaters people are couching it in imagined "allergies" and "food intolerance". Going out of our way to renounce entire categories of ingredients because of some perceived ill health effect. Which then snowballs until all manner of perfectly fine fare being outright discarded and not just for them but for the entire group lest there be cross-contamination or some other culinary mishap. This leads to a negative feedback loop as people become more and more unhealthy and write off more and more varieties of food and preparation methods.

The final problem is all of the bogus diet fads being peddled by "nutritionists" which more-or-less are always some version of a fasting diet. Slashing caloric intakes but rarely diversifying palettes and near-uniformly pushing some expensive feel-good option as a panacea over cheaper just as healthy options. But, since the underlying problem is never addressed, these diets inevitably fail and people just move on to the next stupid fad.

In short: We need to bring Home Economics back. It put people in a classroom to learn about this stuff properly. There is too much misinformation out there and if left to their own devices people just pick the options that make them feel better and ignore anything inconvenient.
 
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ColtWalker1847 said:
I disagree here. None of these practices is new. What has changed is that food is so plentiful and cheap that we allow diners at the table to refuse to eat food based solely on distaste even though it is perfectly healthy to consume. We have become very picky and gorge ourselves on the tastier fare and ignore anything that might be the slightest bit unpalatable. This was simply not the case before when food was more scare and you damn well better learn to love your boiled turnips and rutabagas because that is all we have to eat.

Another horrifying trend is that instead of just fessing up to being picky eaters people are couching it in imagined "allergies" and "food intolerance". Going out of our way to renounce entire categories of ingredients because of some perceived ill health effect. Which then snowballs until all manner of perfectly fine fare being outright discarded and not just for them but for the entire group lest there be cross-contamination or some other culinary mishap. This leads to a negative feedback loop as people become more and more unhealthy and write off more and more varieties of food and preparation methods.

The final problem is all of the bogus diet fads being peddled by "nutritionists" which more-or-less are always some version of a fasting diet. Slashing caloric intakes but rarely diversifying palettes and near-uniformly pushing some expensive feel-good option as a panacea over cheaper just as healthy options. But, since the underlying problem is never addressed, these diets inevitably fail and people just move on to the next stupid fad.

In short: We need to bring Home Economics back. It put people in a classroom to learn about this stuff properly. There is too much misinformation out there and if left to their own devices people just pick the options that make them feel better and ignore anything inconvenient.
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One thing to watch out for is the term nutritionist. There is no consensus on that term, anyone can call themselves that. The medically recognized term is dietitian.
 
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