Read the last few pages, comments in no particular order:
1) If anyone has access to the shooter's insta by way of follows, PM me, I'll hook you up with instructions to scrape it.
2) I'd be careful being definitive about when you "can't" use self defense, I think the circumstances do not play well for a self defense claim however.
3) The police must not have found any overt evidence of antifa connections to the shooter, which doesn't exactly shock me, though it is clear he is at bare minimum extremely sympathetic based on all that's been posted.
4) Antifa claiming the "Kyle Clark" reporter as one of their own is noggin joggilicious.
5) Zack Newman's tweet that he's trying to get to the patriot side seems to explain why he and soycurity were there, they had succeeded.
6) Zack Newman at the very least looks like he's got friendly connections to antifa, though this may not be as sinister as it seems. A "journalist" playing up support for a side to get access would not be unheard of and I've seen it happen a couple times in the protests. His joke use of the ((())) for his name makes implications about his sympathies though, and who he hired as security does as well. That said, anyone who remembers weebwars should remember how Monica hired a literal ye olde Internet martial arts/military lolcow as her "security" for a autograph dealie...not quite the same situation as the credible threats of violence between the two situations aren't even in the same universe from each other, just a parallel that occurred to me.
7) Based on the context video between Lee leaving the portrait frame and the shot ringing out is ~8 seconds (~36 to ~44), and based on how fast he was moving I'd bet it took a minimum of 3 seconds to get to the scene of the confrontation, he wasn't moving fast. I roughly measured how long it would take at normal walk for me to walk about as far as Lee walked based on best guess from the video and came up with 3 and a bit seconds.
8 ) I didn't hear anyone yell "GET BACK" in the context video prior to the shot. Vocalizing for someone to stay away from you and them NOT doing so is an important piece of evidence for a shooter to point at later in a self defense situation like this. May not mean anything as the mic just might not have caught it, but interesting to me.
9) "Black guns matter" points offscreen at Lee's probable position based on Lee's movements around ~39s and says "fuck around and find out", quickly turns back to someone on camera and keeps repeating that phrase but does not point at them. Might be nothing.
10) The Portland riot
getting shitcanned immediately
due to infighting is delicious and explains the lack of any Portland streams last night. Eugene definitely seems to be the new hotness by and large.
Questions, which may have answers, in no particular order:
1) Why was soycurity reaching at Lee? You don't get that "slap still" without mutual reaching given how fast that escalated, which to my calculations appears to be 5 seconds or less.
2) Were soycurity and Zack attempting to get past Lee? And if so, why? Was Lee in the way of a camera angle? Soycurity was leading based on the the pictures and videos I've seen so far.
3) At ~38 seconds into the "black guns matter" context video, I hear someone with a deeper voice in the background say "put it back" at ~39s while Lee isn't in frame, do we know the shooter's voice?
4) What caused Lee to move to the eventual site of his death? It looked like he saw something and started casually walking over.
5) Does Soycurity have personal or professional connections to Mr. "Black guns matter"? If he does, that would explain some things and also uh..."rhyme", like poetry.
6) Has there been any release of the number of shell casings recovered at the scene?