Susie Green & Mermaids UK - "Trans Kid Support Charity", Susie had her underage kid get GRS

[Hongourable Madisha]

By that point, it's better to be a bigoted narrow-minded LGBT-hating christian than whatever these faggots whine about.

Aye, awful though it is, trying to turn gay kids straight with Jesus and boot camp is still better than trying to turn them straight with castration and oestrogen. And he doesn't even seem to be one of the full on fire-and-brimstone sort anyway.

 

[ChaChaHeels:BlackOnes]

from the Lupron small print, totally safe and completely reversible, perfect for injecting into gender distressed kiddies, right, Susie?

Leuprolide can pass into body fluids (urine, feces, vomit). For at least 48 hours after you receive a dose, avoid allowing your body fluids to come into contact with your hands or other surfaces. Caregivers should wear rubber gloves while cleaning up a patient's body fluids, handling contaminated trash or laundry or changing diapers. Wash hands before and after removing gloves. Wash soiled clothing and linens separately.

In the event of a LEAK or SPILL of Lupron “the procedure to be followed is to Evacuate Area", and personal precautions are to “wear respirator, chemical safety goggles, rubber boots, and heavy rubber gloves.”

 

[Positron]

Gender GP have just tweeted about their prescribing chemist is unable to fill any more prescriptions:

Gender GP are heavily promoted by Mermaids.

https://twitter.com/GenderGP/status/1313905523335585793?s=19

Archive: https://archive.md/0EycU

Does GenderGP even have a doctor in their team? Adrian Harrop brought up GenderGP recently so I checked their website. They claim they "work with a network of doctors" yet their "therapeutic team" consists solely of counselors.

 

[ChaChaHeels:BlackOnes]

Does GenderGP even have a doctor in their team? Adrian Harrop brought up GenderGP recently so I checked their website. They claim they "work with a network of doctors" yet their "therapeutic team" consists solely of counselors.

It’s all very mysterious isn’t it? Now that GGP can no longer send prescriptions directly to their online pharmacy partner but will have to post out paper scripts, it’ll be interesting to see who actually signs them.

Odds on the signature being completely illegible?

 

[Positron]

It’s all very mysterious isn’t it? Now that GGP can no longer send prescriptions directly to their online pharmacy partner but will have to post out paper scripts, it’ll be interesting to see who actually signs them.

Odds on the signature being completely illegible?

From GenderGP's fee table:

What gives these morons the authority and expertise to supervise doctors?
The link to Clear Chemist gives me a 404.

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

Does GenderGP even have a doctor in their team? Adrian Harrop brought up GenderGP recently so I checked their website. They claim they "work with a network of doctors" yet their "therapeutic team" consists solely of counselors.

It used to be the Webberleys themselves, before they were suspended by the GMC. She's a GP iirc and he's a gastroenterologist so I have no idea what he has to do with anything except that he can (or could) prescribe things.

 

[ChaChaHeels:BlackOnes]

Webberley, H, used to have a document on her website saying that one of the people who reported her was Dr Stuart Lorimer of GenderCare/ Charing Cross NHS clinic.

I posted a bit about how it’s usually rival gender doctors who report each other on the GRS doctors thread a week or two ago.

https://twitter.com/Neverfallingfo1/status/1070308158617337856

Posters on the transgender U.K. subreddit are blaming terves and ‘right wing journalists‘ for the regulator putting restrictions on Clear Chemist but it’s far more likely to be the work of a gender doctor or two. A Mumsnet poster has said she complained re: Clear Chemist a while ago and got no response at all.

I noticed yesterday that the Tavistock’s lawyers on the Keira Bell case were trying to blame endocrinology departments at two other NHS trusts for the actual prescribing of ‘puberty blockers and cross sex hormones to kiddies,, but the kids wouldn’t even be attending those departments if they hadn’t been referred by the psychs at the Tavistock.
There is a lot of arse covering going on right now, I suspect.

Stuart Lorimer works for the adult service and doesn’t officially prescribe to under 18s in his Private practice, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it turned out he has some special cases - he attended the Detransitioners event in Manchester with Helen Islan (MimmyMum) so they are obviously friendly and he was actively touting for business on Tumblr (!) a few years back, not exactly a place where you expect to find fully mature adults.

One young FtM even had a caricature of him tattooed on her neck, based on his business cards.

https://lilymaynard.com/gendercare-dr-lorimer-brings-all-the-transboys-to-the-yard/

 

[ChaChaHeels:BlackOnes]

scuse the double post but important enough to not just edit the above...

the Tavistock’s barrister today admitted in the high court that children as young as 10 have been referred for blockers (aka toxic prostate cancer treatments) and children as young as 12 have been given cross sex hormones.

The Tavistock failed to produce the results of their 2011 study nor could they come up with any evidence that these treatments are actually effective in preventing suicide ideation.

The three judges have now retired and a written verdict will be issued in due course (and ignore the troons who say this ruling could have an effect on abortion or contraception, the judges are specifically considering whether it’s possible for a minor to be ‘fully informed’ of the potential consequences of never experiencing a proper puberty, and whether it‘s actually possible to legally consent if you can’t be fully informed).

Live tweets from a bbc journalist can be read here: https://twitter.com/hannahsbee

looking forward to the news coverage.

 

[Surfin Terf]

from the Lupron small print, totally safe and completely reversible, perfect for injecting into gender distressed kiddies, right, Susie?

Leuprolide can pass into body fluids (urine, feces, vomit). For at least 48 hours after you receive a dose, avoid allowing your body fluids to come into contact with your hands or other surfaces. Caregivers should wear rubber gloves while cleaning up a patient's body fluids, handling contaminated trash or laundry or changing diapers. Wash hands before and after removing gloves. Wash soiled clothing and linens separately.

In the event of a LEAK or SPILL of Lupron “the procedure to be followed is to Evacuate Area", and personal precautions are to “wear respirator, chemical safety goggles, rubber boots, and heavy rubber gloves.”

Does this include sweat? How typical is it for a drug to turn someone into a walking biohazard like this; is this an abundance of caution or are Lupron users legitimately dangerous 48 hours after taking a dose?

Either way, how is this shit legal to give to children in anything but life-saving procedures*? Everything I learn about it just makes me more and more horrified.

Spoiler: *

I know, I know. The TRAs claim that all transition stuff is life-saving

 

[Gone_Fission]

Documentary footage of a real Lupron spill:

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

from the Lupron small print, totally safe and completely reversible, perfect for injecting into gender distressed kiddies, right, Susie?

Leuprolide can pass into body fluids (urine, feces, vomit). For at least 48 hours after you receive a dose, avoid allowing your body fluids to come into contact with your hands or other surfaces. Caregivers should wear rubber gloves while cleaning up a patient's body fluids, handling contaminated trash or laundry or changing diapers. Wash hands before and after removing gloves. Wash soiled clothing and linens separately.

In the event of a LEAK or SPILL of Lupron “the procedure to be followed is to Evacuate Area", and personal precautions are to “wear respirator, chemical safety goggles, rubber boots, and heavy rubber gloves.”

What do Lupron spills actually do? That makes it sound like some kind of Chernobyl disaster.

 

[ロボ﹏§¤r﹏h¶rœ]

It’s time to ban puberty blockers for children​

Aground-breaking case in the High Court will decide this week whether the UK’s only gender identity development service (GIDS) for under-18s will be allowed to continue to prescribe puberty blockers for children as young as 10-years-old. The case against the Tavistock and Portman NHS trust, which runs GIDs, is currently conducting its own internal review as a response to the growing controversy surrounding its practice.

Keira Bell, now 23, was prescribed puberty blockers by GIDS when she was 16. Keira went on to use testosterone, before having a double mastectomy when she was 20. She now regrets transitioning, but may well be infertile as a side effect of the drugs she has taken.

Keira is hoping that her case will prevent further medical experimentation on children. ‘Transition was a very temporary, superficial fix for a very complex identity issue,’ she says.

I have interviewed a number of young lesbians who have de-transitioned back to being female during the last couple of years. All have a similar story. These women often experienced serious abuse and harassment and developed feelings of self-hatred as a result of anti-lesbian bullying.

As Keira said: ‘I made a brash decision as a teenager, as a lot of teenagers do, trying to find confidence and happiness, except now the rest of my life will be negatively affected.’

I have some idea of how Keira came to decide she wanted to change sex. Growing up in a male-dominated environment and attending a school where I was bullied for rejecting boys, I was confused to say the least. I hated wearing a skirt and had zero interest in experimenting with make-up. I had a crush on my best friend, and convinced myself that because I didn't fancy boys, there was something seriously wrong with me.

This was the 1970s when, particularly in working-class communities, girls were confined in the straitjacket of gender roles. As a tomboyish lesbian, I was treated like a freak pariah and felt like one. I would go to sleep wishing I was a boy which would have meant I was 'normal'. If I could have waved a magic wand and changed sex I would have done so.

Finding feminism and meeting other lesbians who were proud of their sexuality gave me a totally different perspective, and those feelings of dysphoria and self-hatred soon disappeared.

Some supporters of medical intervention for gender dysphoria have argued that Keira Bell’s case is not just about trans-identified youth but a much wider issue about whether we believe children and young people have a right to treat their bodies as their own.

As a feminist of course I support the right for young people to maintain bodily autonomy, particularly when female bodies seem to be public property, with abortion restricted or even criminalised in a number of countries around the world, and sexual assault being so endemic.

But is a 10-year-old child asking to go on puberty blockers really the same as girls having the right to be prescribed the contraceptive pill? Do we think it's okay for a 12-year-old to have extensive tattoos and piercings, or to spend their pocket money on porn? Of course not. So why then do the supporters of this medicalised approach think children can take irreversible and potentially damaging medication on a pathway to full sex reassignment surgery?

As the court heard, 'nearly 100 per cent' of all children who start taking hormone blockers will later begin taking irreversible and potentially harmful cross-sex hormones.

In 2003 I wrote about the increasing normalisation of transsexuality. ‘A growing phenomenon is that of female-to-male transsexualism, with several operations conducted every year, which can include double mastectomy, hysterectomy and phalloplasty (the construction of a penis using skin grafts from the arms or stomach). Testosterone enables beard growth, muscle development and lowering of the voice,’ I wrote.

I quoted Claudia at the time, a trans woman who feels she was rushed through hormone treatment and surgery in the 1980s and has since regretted transitioning.

‘I want psychiatrists and surgeons to provide a more realistic explanation of what you will be left with, physically and emotionally, after the operation,’ Claudia told me. ‘If by speaking out I can prevent another confused, messed up individual going through this, it will have been worth it’. Why, 17 years after I wrote about sex change regret, and two years after the launch of the campaign group Detransitioner Advocacy Network, are we only just seeing our first legal challenge?

Keira's case is not, as some claim, about ‘the healthcare of trans children’ but rather about girls so distressed by the levels of hatred and misogyny they encounter they look for an escape from their female bodies. I felt like Keira did when I was her age, as did many of my lesbian friends.

Putting kids on drugs and a possible path to unnecessary surgery because they are experiencing psychological distress caused by external factors is a human rights violation. It is high time that we see it for what it is. Let’s hope the court does, and this practice of medicating and carving up healthy young bodies will be replaced by appropriate care and support for these vulnerable young women. That I write this as a happy lesbian as opposed to a regretful transman is only because when I felt as Keira did, the GIDs clinic did not exist.

 

[Lewisite]

from the Lupron small print, totally safe and completely reversible, perfect for injecting into gender distressed kiddies, right, Susie?

Leuprolide can pass into body fluids (urine, feces, vomit). For at least 48 hours after you receive a dose, avoid allowing your body fluids to come into contact with your hands or other surfaces. Caregivers should wear rubber gloves while cleaning up a patient's body fluids, handling contaminated trash or laundry or changing diapers. Wash hands before and after removing gloves. Wash soiled clothing and linens separately.

In the event of a LEAK or SPILL of Lupron “the procedure to be followed is to Evacuate Area", and personal precautions are to “wear respirator, chemical safety goggles, rubber boots, and heavy rubber gloves.”

Source for the first quote. I figure they're worried about a Lupron patient passing their residue to a pregnant woman and fucking up the fetus.

The second quote is from this MSDS, which is probably just paranoid.

 

[Positron]

What do Lupron spills actually do? That makes it sound like some kind of Chernobyl disaster.

I doubt it is serious; the substance is a polypeptide of rather high molecular weight and hence isn't volatile.

 

[Inventor of the Telephone]

Aye, awful though it is, trying to turn gay kids straight with Jesus and boot camp is still better than trying to turn them straight with castration and oestrogen. And he doesn't even seem to be one of the full on fire-and-brimstone sort anyway.

It has long struck me as more cruel to tell molested kids that they are now gay and embrace the cock, instead of trying to 'convert' them via therapy. Considering how queer stuff in general is transmitted culturally, with genetic causes for it generally lying on a scale from tenuous to absolute bullshit, being unable to attempt to treat with 'reparative' therapy seems the more cruel option. Imagine being raped then developing a sex addiction because of it and having society tell you, 'well thats just how you were made. anyone who says different is a kinkophobic white guy with a mullet and no teeth.'

I think the ban of reparative therapies had nothing to with evil repressive christians trying to force innocent little kids to be normal, but more about rejecting any challenge to the notion that all sexual deviance is strictly in-born, as that would delegitimize the then evermore-lubed slope of the gay rights movement. As now the same (bullshit) arguments have been made for transsexuality, it seems that that is a battle that should not have been given up on. The slope slides on, and its nowhere yet near the end of line.

Webberley, H, used to have a document on her website saying that one of the people who reported her was Dr Stuart Lorimer of GenderCare/ Charing Cross NHS clinic.

I posted a bit about how it’s usually rival gender doctors who report each other on the GRS doctors thread a week or two ago.

https://tw.tinf.io/Neverfallingfo1/status/1070308158617337856

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Posters on the transgender U.K. subreddit are blaming terves and ‘right wing journalists‘ for the regulator putting restrictions on Clear Chemist but it’s far more likely to be the work of a gender doctor or two. A Mumsnet poster has said she complained re: Clear Chemist a while ago and got no response at all.

I noticed yesterday that the Tavistock’s lawyers on the Keira Bell case were trying to blame endocrinology departments at two other NHS trusts for the actual prescribing of ‘puberty blockers and cross sex hormones to kiddies,, but the kids wouldn’t even be attending those departments if they hadn’t been referred by the psychs at the Tavistock.
There is a lot of arse covering going on right now, I suspect.

Stuart Lorimer works for the adult service and doesn’t officially prescribe to under 18s in his Private practice, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it turned out he has some special cases - he attended the Detransitioners event in Manchester with Helen Islan (MimmyMum) so they are obviously friendly and he was actively touting for business on Tumblr (!) a few years back, not exactly a place where you expect to find fully mature adults.

One young FtM even had a caricature of him tattooed on her neck, based on his business cards.

https://lilymaynard.com/gendercare-dr-lorimer-brings-all-the-transboys-to-the-yard/

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Stuart Lorimer, Pedovore and Funko Pop Appraiser
Anyone with that Stuart Lorimer phenotype should probably be rounded up and ovened. There have rarely been a more eerily apt stereotype than that one.


Not one for talk, that Stuart, he's a man of action.

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From GenderGP's fee table:
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What gives these morons the authority and expertise to supervise doctors?
The link to Clear Chemist gives me a 404.

Puberty-blocking nasal spray sounds like a James Bond special weapon. That sounds sinister.

 

[Odessa Norwood]

The "puberty blocking" nasal spray is worse than it sounds. Someone I used to work with was prescribed it for gynae problems, she used to retch after using it. Apparently she could taste it...

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

It has long struck me as more cruel to tell molested kids that they are now gay and embrace the cock, instead of trying to 'convert' them via therapy. Considering how queer stuff in general is transmitted culturally, with genetic causes for it generally lying on a scale from tenuous to absolute bullshit, being unable to attempt to treat with 'reparative' therapy seems the more cruel option. Imagine being raped then developing a sex addiction because of it and having society tell you, 'well thats just how you were made. anyone who says different is a kinkophobic white guy with a mullet and no teeth.'

I think the ban of reparative therapies had nothing to with evil repressive christians trying to force innocent little kids to be normal, but more about rejecting any challenge to the notion that all sexual deviance is strictly in-born, as that would delegitimize the then evermore-lubed slope of the gay rights movement. As now the same (bullshit) arguments have been made for transsexuality, it seems that that is a battle that should not have been given up on. The slope slides on, and its nowhere yet near the end of line.


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Stuart Lorimer, Pedovore and Funko Pop Appraiser
Anyone with that Stuart Lorimer phenotype should probably be rounded up and ovened. There have rarely been a more eerily apt stereotype than that one.

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Not one for talk, that Stuart, he's a man of action.


Puberty-blocking nasal spray sounds like a James Bond special weapon. That sounds sinister.

Homosexuality doesn’t exist because of child molestation.

That having been said, porn induced homosexuality/attraction to troons is absolutely real in men. Go on r/TGandSissyRecovery or even the regular anti porn subreddit. I do think a lot of teenage boys are getting swept up in this, especially ones who aren’t having sex with girls in real life. You just keep going more and more extreme.

 

[Shaka Brah]

Homosexuality doesn’t exist because of child molestation.

That having been said, porn induced homosexuality/attraction to troons is absolutely real in men. Go on r/TGandSissyRecovery or even the regular anti porn subreddit. I do think a lot of teenage boys are getting swept up in this, especially ones who aren’t having sex with girls in real life. You just keep going more and more extreme.

He's right that a worrying percentage of people who identify as homosexual will point to a molestation experience as the catalyst for "understanding their identity." I doubt it's all, but it's too many to be a coincidence. You especially get it from gay celebs, like George Takei or Milo Yiannopulous.

 

[Fapcop]

He's right that a worrying percentage of people who identify as homosexual will point to a molestation experience as the catalyst for "understanding their identity." I doubt it's all, but it's too many to be a coincidence. You especially get it from gay celebs, like George Takei or Milo Yiannopulous.

I mean who the fuck knows?

Maybe getting molested can be a trigger for being gay? Or a contributing cause.


There is so much about human sexuality, and the human brain we don’t know.


Nobody chooses to be a pedophile either, yet we know some people are sexually aroused by children. To the degree where they’re willing to risk their freedom and all they’ve worked for their entire life for a hard disk full of CP. And some keep offending time after time despite getting treatment.

 

[Norman B. Normal]

Whatever the cause, gay people who live in supportive environments tend to be happy, productive, entirely normal members of society with no greater incidence of mental disorders than the rest of the population. Troons... not so much.