General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Renmai]

I'm almost tempted to find the moment in the archive. But almost not, because that's just gonna be awkward.

 

[Screw Danlon]

I only found her recently, so not quite a recommendation, but Nijisanji’s Amamya doing Duolingo is really fun.

 

[Bungus Scrungus]

I get why people would send messages like that, but it's so fucking depressing to do so in the middle of a stream. They have Twitters, and I know doing it like this makes it more likely they'll see it, but they have like, 3 hashtags you can use to tell them about this when they're not streaming. It shows their kindness when they do respond on stream, but at the same time, people watch this stuff to get AWAY from that. It's not a charity stream for donating money towards a suicide prevention or cancer treatment organization, it's a gaming stream with anime girl avatars.

Also, if you think about it beyond the surface level, it's even more depressing because you realize these people must have no one else to talk to this about, so they resort to doing so with Vtubers. Of course, there is the possibility of what other people are saying of being true, which I'm in a weird position of hoping it's not true and yet at the same time hoping it IS true. Point is, things like that don't need to be made so public, and if you are going to do so, at least be vague about it. Not obviously vague like "I'm going to leave for a very long time" but like, "I'll be away for a bit, but I appreciate you a lot". That's my assessment on these sorts of things, anyways.

 

[Gravemind]

I get why people would send messages like that, but it's so fucking depressing to do so in the middle of a stream. They have Twitters, and I know doing it like this makes it more likely they'll see it, but they have like, 3 hashtags you can use to tell them about this when they're not streaming. It shows their kindness when they do respond on stream, but at the same time, people watch this stuff to get AWAY from that. It's not a charity stream for donating money towards a suicide prevention or cancer treatment organization, it's a gaming stream with anime girl avatars.

Also, if you think about it beyond the surface level, it's even more depressing because you realize these people must have no one else to talk to this about, so they resort to doing so with Vtubers. Of course, there is the possibility of what other people are saying of being true, which I'm in a weird position of hoping it's not true and yet at the same time hoping it IS true. Point is, things like that don't need to be made so public, and if you are going to do so, at least be vague about it. Not obviously vague like "I'm going to leave for a very long time" but like, "I'll be away for a bit, but I appreciate you a lot". That's my assessment on these sorts of things, anyways.

Setting aside the loads of technicalities that people could speculate on to justify a Superchat format during the stream as being a way in which to ensure the message is received (and, ultimately, all we can do is speculate the circumstances here since, troll or no, we're likely not gonna know one way or the other unless someone takes ownership for the action or provides evidence one way or another), I agree completely.

I'm sure there's worries that the each of the idol's DM inboxes on Twitter might be closed (for obvious reasons), or that even if they got directly tagged for a message, it might get overlooked, but, all things considered, I also think it would be better to do that than to completely ruin the mood of the stream and risk assassinating that particular idol's reputation if they failed to provide a meaningful response. It's incredibly fortunate and a bit redeeming of Kiara's character that she was able to handle it so nicely, but I feel like there might be an emerging pattern to "death threat" the HololiveEN crew since they've received a couple of said Superchats recently.

Or, to put it another way, this could be some really gay ops at play here. We'll have to wait and see if this keeps continuing.

 

[The Real SVP]

Everybody is talking about cancer and completely forgets that Kiara also showed feet.

 

[Gravemind]

Everybody is talking about cancer and completely forgets that Kiara also showed feet.

More like nobody decided to bring up her sick ass Yeezys until you mentioned it.

But they do be looking fly though, I cannot lie.

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

So I've been checking some nijisanji vtubers out, they're not a very homogeneous group, my favourites so far are Rion and Joe Rikiichi.

How does nijisanji promote their members? I had to go to their website to find their youtube channels... I tried using the "Channel" tab for some of the vtubers and it was empty for the most part.

Now that you mention it... I had to find out about Nijisanji from a friend of mine, I've been teasing him about his inability to beat Blood-Starved Beast in Bloodborne and he sent me a stream of I think Honma Himawari playing Bloodborne which iirc was live just then. That's how I fell down the Nijihole and became an unapologetic Nijifag. Not gonna lie, it's also how I found out that there's this thing called male vtubers because Hololive's autistic about collabs with male tubers so you barely see them there. Shame too especially for the Holostars guys because they're entertaining but their sub counts can't even touch the Hololive girls.
Yeah, Nijisanji has a lot of variety, they even went balls to the wall with 2 of their tubers early on. You know Korone right? The cute dog? Well Nijisanji already had a dog vtuber about half a year earlier and her model is... a literal dog.

I do wonder how they'll handle her 3D debut, I know she has a human form because the gimmick behind the character is that the owner of the dog died and transferred her soul to her which is the explanation as to how the dog can speak, but it'd be hilarious if they just put the 3D trackers on an actual dog.
The second one is Debidebi Debiru, who is a tiny imp demon, he already had his 3D stream and it was funny, especially since of course the Eldritch Entity was the source of all horror on that stream.

 

[Gravemind]

For those of you who were still wondering about when the collab ban would be lifted


Tweet – Archive

It's time.

 

[PorkeyDuck]

This cracked me up

 

[Least Concern]

This cracked me up

They really should tone down the jiggle physics a bit on both of them. It looks ridiculous.

 

[Bungus Scrungus]

what are you, a man of homosexual disposition?

 

[The One And Only SALTE]

Hololive's autistic about collabs with male tubers so you barely see them there. Shame too especially for the Holostars guys because they're entertaining but their sub counts can't even touch the Hololive girls.

The collaborative efforts with Holostars is kind of strange, and it's honestly not really Cover's fault. YAGOO's twitter actually promotes the Holostars milestones more than it does for any of the female talent. Holostars actually suffered a lot because for a while they didn't have a proper branch manager, and now that they have one he's become kind of a character in his own right. Fubuki and Matsuri give absolutely zero fucks about what people think about them collaborating with the Holostars, and I forget who else it was (maybe Subaru?) but someone from hololive also basically told her more spergy viewers to fuck off and she can be friends with whomever she wants to be friends with. It's also more or less an issue of scheduling; a lot of the girls are supremely busy with many other things than just streaming (like that music video Subaru, Aqua and Pekora made for instant noodles) and have a lot of prep work they either have to do on the side or choose to do in order to help further the brand; Fubuki and Coco in particular do a lot of BTS stuff and Coco spearheaded the EN branch opening and was part of the audition process in terms of screening. Even that aside, any time one of the girls works with a Holostar the video gets dislike bombarded because how dare their waifu have a male friend, and some of the talent may be actively avoiding something like that. It's not really a problem with the overseas fans since most people realize the girls are just actresses and are free to have outside lives, but Japan really is hung up on the "seiso idol" bullshit that hololive is gradually eroding. I can't imagine what will happen if the Japanese find out that their cute shark loli was a fucking degenerate who would regularly get shitfaced and make shit raps based around furry copypasta.

The only consistent person I see who does collaborative efforts is actually Roberu, and that's just because the guy basically lives at his computer. If you take a look at his streaming schedule, he goes live several times a day; once in the early morning for a free talk with his audience and then later in the early afternoon to play whatever he has planned for the day. He never really takes a break, and because of his open schedule he can work with a lot of people outside of holopro, like the VOMS girls. Unlike a certain other shut-in who lives in what is considered a fucking streaming closet though, Roberu actually has a lot of charisma and love for his job.

Yeah, Nijisanji has a lot of variety, they even went balls to the wall with 2 of their tubers early on. You know Korone right? The cute dog? Well Nijisanji already had a dog vtuber about half a year earlier and her model is... a literal dog.

I do wonder how they'll handle her 3D debut, I know she has a human form because the gimmick behind the character is that the owner of the dog died and transferred her soul to her which is the explanation as to how the dog can speak, but it'd be hilarious if they just put the 3D trackers on an actual dog.
The second one is Debidebi Debiru, who is a tiny imp demon, he already had his 3D stream and it was funny, especially since of course the Eldritch Entity was the source of all horror on that stream.

Nijisanji tends to be absolutely wild with whatever characters they come up with and they don't really follow the idol playbook that Cover does, which in honesty may have just been an afterthought. Cover was a tech startup that saw a market in Vtubers because the Chinese were throwing money at people like Fubuki, when really they just wanted to sell facetracking software and used their idols as mascots for what it could do.. Ichikara was a Vtuber agency from the very beginning, although according to their flagship girl Tsukino Mito, was actually terrible to work for early on. I have no idea how she stuck around that long but she definitely suggested things so that the company stopped treating its talent and its BTS staff like absolute dogshit. They also don't really use the "idol" tag at all, instead just calling them "livers." They also have a lot more freedom to talk about their personal lives; Gwelu Os Gar is a dad and his viewers congratulated him on both his marriage and the birth of his kid when he talked about it. Imagine how the hololive's Japanese fanbase would react if by some chance one of the girls was an expecting mother.

 

[Justtocheck]

As much as Vtubers are not my things, I do respect the fact that they are siphoning money away from chinese hands.

Also, if you think about it beyond the surface level, it's even more depressing because you realize these people must have no one else to talk to this about, so they resort to doing so with Vtubers. Of course, there is the possibility of what other people are saying of being true, which I'm in a weird position of hoping it's not true and yet at the same time hoping it IS true. Point is, things like that don't need to be made so public, and if you are going to do so, at least be vague about it. Not obviously vague like "I'm going to leave for a very long time" but like, "I'll be away for a bit, but I appreciate you a lot". That's my assessment on these sorts of things, anyways.

Hey, man, if they are taking your money then it's a free for all. Fuck it. What's wrong with saying what you want to say? Why do you have to keep always pretending you are okay? If the idols are there for you for your best, then fuck it if they are not there for your worst. It's your kane-kane

 

[Screw Danlon]

Have they ever said whether they plan to someday put the HoloJP Minecraft map out for download?

I enjoy the occasional tours they do. But there’s still a lot of stuff I feel like I haven’t gotten to see, and I simply don’t have the capacity to watch every single HoloMC stream.

 

[Cubanodun]

(like that music video Subaru, Aqua and Pekora made for instant noodles)

The agency went to the other angle and made the Aqua one onion flavored for extra giggles

Imagine how the hololive's Japanese fanbase would react if by some chance one of the girls was an expecting mother.

Why do you think people were meme'ing that Miko was pregnant and the reason of her recent hiatus was because she was giving birth? the reaction of the idol fags is freaking amusing

I enjoy the occasional tours they do. But there’s still a lot of stuff I feel like I haven’t gotten to see, and I simply don’t have the capacity to watch every single HoloMC stream.

Man that thing is weird because every gen except EN play in the same server so you have things like Miko shrine or the FORTRESS OF LESBIANISM of 5th gen

And yes Cover should just drop the shit about not putting males on their live streamers i mean Nijisanji even have ships and people instead of going ballistic encourage them for shit and giggles and because is more amusing

 

[Gravemind]

And yes Cover should just drop the shit about not putting males on their live streamers i mean Nijisanji even have ships and people instead of going ballistic encourage them for shit and giggles and because is more amusing

Can't put a dick around our pure waifus. Heterosexuality POISONS the seiso and teetee. Yuri is the PUREST form of love. Nevermind the fact that probably very few relationships are gonna go beyond a professional working relationship or even, dare I entertain the concept? "Friendship". We cannot have those filthy men around our girls.

I don't know, man. Repressed otaku are fucking weird and I've never understood that "REEEE NO EVIL MEN CAN BE AROUND MY PURE GAY WAIFUS" mindset that dudes get wild over.

I will say that Belmond's collabs with the girls of Nijisanji are the things that got me enjoying him.

 

[Cubanodun]

I will say that Belmond's collabs with the girls of Nijisanji are the things that got me enjoying him.

Those streams are the equivalent of gipsy honor fights in digital format, amazing

 

[Pipi420]

Not gonna lie, it's also how I found out that there's this thing called male vtubers because Hololive's autistic about collabs with male tubers so you barely see them there. Shame too especially for the Holostars guys because they're entertaining but their sub counts can't even touch the Hololive girls.

There used to be plenty of Matsuri/Fubuki holostars collabs but lately they've stopped, I guess because lately Roberu and others have been seeing more growth. I don't know if I want hololive to be full blown nijisanji but I do wish there were more hololive x holostars collabs.

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

I will say that Belmond's collabs with the girls of Nijisanji are the things that got me enjoying him.

Belmond has two modes - dad mode and chad mode... unless he has to play horror games, then he goes into sissy mode.
Which reminds me, here's one collab he did with Roa where he gets scared harder than she does.

 

[Dick Justice]

Are there any vtubers that actually feel like a real person with basic competence at vidya? Every one I've ever checked seems to be full on AnimuGOTIS doing the "am I kawaii uguu~" patronizing from start to finish and it's all so tiring.