2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Speaking of which, since there is less excitement for Biden at this point.

Chances of Trump breaking the 50% popular vote ratio? The betting odds have gone against that as of late, but what do you guys think? I am thinking of putting another bet down for Trump.

I honestly can't see Biden doing better than Hillary (Biden may be more likeable but Killary had the YASS QWEEN! factor) so it's possible IMHO.
 
Palin I feel was like Dubya; they were both decent and respected governors, iirc. However, as soon as they got on the main stage (VP fronteunner in 08 for Palin, and Bush's entire presidency), every thing started to crumble. Dubya for instance, was a fantastic orator when he was governor, and when he became president, in came the Bushisms.

Harris was unlikable to most at the start, and her unlikability collapsed her campaign. She continues to be depreciating asset for Biden and Democrats; anyone else, even Beto would be better. She lacks the charm and "Hope and Change" peddling and imagery of Obama.

There is no lightning in her bottle to capitalize on.
Palin gave McCain a huge bump in the polls after she was announced as his running mate. Conservatives liked her far more than they liked McCain. She had an 80-something approval rating as Governor as well. Palin saved McCain's campaign from absolutely crashing two months before the election even happened, if you ask me. Most republicans were simply despondent about a McCain presidency up until he picked Palin. I remember it vividly.

What crashed McCain's campaign, IMO, was that they eventually tried to keep Palin on a leash (with McCain being the establishment neocon shithead that he was). Granted, I don't think that anything could have stopped Obama back in 2008 (thanks, Dubya), but I think that Palin's political career wouldn't have been set to flames had the McCain camp not done what they did to her.

It's been widely revealed that the McCain camp, near the end, was resentful of Palin upstaging McCain, and so they tried to dress her up as more of an establishment/elite candidate. They put her in designer clothes, told her to never talk about her knocked up daughter or her being a "pitbull" hockey mom who hunts for her own food in Alaska, and told her to not get feisty in the debate and during interviews (which explains the VP debate and that disastrous Katie Couric interview).

Comparing Palin to Harris, while not crazy in the slightest, does make me sad. Don't get me wrong, Palin made many mistakes and I don't want her NEAR any political office at this point, but she was certainly more well-liked than Kamala is now in 2008. What the media, the Democrats, and the establishment GOP did to her still makes me incredibly sad and angry.

Also, just putting this out there: Tina Fey as Sarah Palin was funny political satire. However, I'm fucking sick to death of the false narrative that Palin said "I can see Russia from my house!" She never, ever said that, and yet people still firmly believe she said it. Blows my mind how people can't even tell the difference between truth and satire.

The leftist media having "_______ Derangement Syndrome" has always been present. It didn't start with Donald Trump, lemmetellya. People screech louder about Trump merely because he actually fights back. It's the typical story of a bully on a playground finally getting his/her comeuppance, and their only response is "HEY! What's YOUR problem?!" in attempt to gaslight the person defending themself. That's literally all Trump Derangement Syndrome is.
 
Palin gave McCain a huge bump in the polls after she was announced as his running mate. Conservatives liked her far more than they liked McCain. She had an 80-something approval rating as Governor as well. Palin saved McCain's campaign from absolutely crashing two months before the election even happened, if you ask me. Most republicans were simply despondent about a McCain presidency up until he picked Palin. I remember it vividly.

What crashed McCain's campaign, IMO, was that they eventually tried to keep Palin on a leash (with McCain being the establishment neocon shithead that he was). Granted, I don't think that anything could have stopped Obama back in 2008 (thanks, Dubya), but I think that Palin's political career wouldn't have been set to flames had the McCain camp not done what they did to her.

It's been widely revealed that the McCain camp, near the end, was resentful of Palin upstaging McCain, and so they tried to dress her up as more of an establishment/elite candidate. They put her in designer clothes, told her to never talk about her knocked up daughter or her being a "pitbull" hockey mom who hunts for her own food in Alaska, and told her to not get feisty in the debate and during interviews (which explains the VP debate and that disastrous Katie Couric interview).

Comparing Palin to Harris, while not crazy in the slightest, does make me sad. Don't get me wrong, Palin made many mistakes and I don't want her NEAR any political office at this point, but she was certainly more well-liked than Kamala is now in 2008. What the media, the Democrats, and the establishment GOP did to her still makes me incredibly sad and angry.

Also, just putting this out there: Tina Fey as Sarah Palin was funny political satire. However, I'm fucking sick to death of the false narrative that Palin said "I can see Russia from my house!" She never, ever said that, and yet people still firmly believe she said it. Blows my mind how people can't even tell the difference between truth and satire.

The leftist media having "_______ Derangement Syndrome" has always been present. It didn't start with Donald Trump, lemmetellya. People screech louder about Trump merely because he actually fights back. It's the typical story of a bully on a playground finally getting his/her comeuppance, and their only response is "HEY! What's YOUR problem?!" in attempt to gaslight the person defending themself. That's literally all Trump Derangement Syndrome is.
Honestly, a really distant from Bush and warhawks Republican 08 ticket with Palin as the frontliner vs Obama would be a great dream match. Obama would still win because first black and no more Republicans please, though.
 
Honestly, a really distant from Bush and warhawks Republican 08 ticket with Palin as the frontliner vs Obama would be a great dream match. Obama would still win because first black and no more Republicans please, though.
Honestly if Palin was not McCain's VP in 2008, and ran in 2012, she probably could've had a good chance.
 
Some quick takeaways from Baris.
  • Philidelphia is over 18% of his raw sample. It will be 12% the electorate.
  • Raw data is D+11, Biden has a 7 point lead
  • Due to enthusiasm, he estimates a 51 female-49 male gender gap.
  • He has been trying for a week to get WWC vote, needs to sample more to find a good sample
  • As he further weighs it, its getting closer and closer, similar to 2016 election night
  • Getting generally weird results, need more conservatives
  • Sample is way too liberal and favorable to Biden in his eyes
Barnes insights
  • Biden internals and moves are telling him that he thinks MI and WI are in the bag. Thats why the TargetSmart early vote is tied: they have NO GOTV drive
  • Norweigen vote theory is showing that they aren't responding but are trending harder Trump than 2016 (AKA Wisc. and Minn.)
  • Discussing historical trends, all point to Trump wins
  • Black and youth vote are collapsing
  • Trump is fusing the Walker coalition in WI to his own, driving out higher votes out of historically Republican WOW counties
  • Majority of PA early vote is from Philly and Pittsburg
 
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Some quick takeaways from Baris.
  • Philidelphia is over 18% of his raw sample. It will be 12% the electorate.
  • Raw data is D+11, Biden has a 7 point lead
  • He has been trying for a week to get WWC vote, needs to sample more to find a good sample
  • As he further weighs it, its getting closer and closer, similar to 2016 election night
  • Getting generally weird results, need more conservatives
Barnes insights
  • Biden internals and moves are telling him that he thinks MI and WI are in the bag. Thats why the TargetSmart early vote is tied: they have NO GOTV drive
  • Norweigen vote theory is showing that they aren't responding but are trending harder Trump than 2016 (AKA Wisc. and Minn.)
  • Discussing historical trends, all point to Trump wins
  • Black and youth vote are collapsing
  • Trump is fusing the Walker coalition in WI to his own, driving out higher votes out of historically Republican WOW counties
  • Majority of PA early vote is from Philly and Pittsburge
Listened in a little bit myself. Seems discouraging at first, but it’s also something I need to listen to the whole thing first before making my conclusion. Lots of people are panicking, but I want to wait for tomorrow.
 
Some quick takeaways from Baris.
  • Philidelphia is over 18% of his raw sample. It will be 12% the electorate.
  • Raw data is D+11, Biden has a 7 point lead
  • Due to enthusiasm, he estimates a 51 female-49 male gender gap.
  • He has been trying for a week to get WWC vote, needs to sample more to find a good sample
  • As he further weighs it, its getting closer and closer, similar to 2016 election night
  • Getting generally weird results, need more conservatives
Barnes insights
  • Biden internals and moves are telling him that he thinks MI and WI are in the bag. Thats why the TargetSmart early vote is tied: they have NO GOTV drive
  • Norweigen vote theory is showing that they aren't responding but are trending harder Trump than 2016 (AKA Wisc. and Minn.)
  • Discussing historical trends, all point to Trump wins
  • Black and youth vote are collapsing
  • Trump is fusing the Walker coalition in WI to his own, driving out higher votes out of historically Republican WOW counties
  • Majority of PA early vote is from Philly and Pittsburge

My earliest of predictions about this election were that Trump wouldn't gain so much of the black vote as much as the Dems would lose it. Does not surprise me in the slightest to see this as a probability at this point.

The loss of the youth vote does not shock me either. The Dems keep counting on it, and they keep ... Not showing up. It's a dumb strategy to appeal to the youngest voting demographic, given the low turnouts every single election cycle. Nothing seems to motivate them to get off their butts to vote, even at the "convenience" of a mail-in ballot.

If women are the group that calls the shots in PA, that is most certainly worrisome. I keep telling Republicans to never underestimate the stupidity of the woman vote.
 
My earliest of predictions about this election were that Trump wouldn't gain so much of the black vote as much as the Dems would lose it. Does not surprise me in the slightest to see this as a probability at this point.

The loss of the youth vote does not shock me either. The Dems keep counting on it, and they keep ... Not showing up. It's a dumb strategy to appeal to the youngest voting demographic, given the low turnouts every single election cycle. Nothing seems to motivate them to get off their butts to vote, even at the "convenience" of a mail-in ballot.

If women are the group that calls the shots in PA, that is most certainly worrisome. I keep telling Republicans to never underestimate the stupidity of the woman vote.
He said the most juiced voter is a WWC male in his 30s and up. He said they will vote in numbers never before seen. And there is wealth of vote to take from there.

Trump is winning the noncollege vote by 22 points, 55 to 33.

Barnes also said he is betting Trump with all this information. Take that as you will.
 
It's a dumb strategy to appeal to the youngest voting demographic, given the low turnouts every single election cycle.
It's not big enough to win with, but certainly big enough to lose without.

But never let it be said that I can't acknowledge the good in others. When they say Bernie or Bust, they really mean it. That kind of truth in advertising is rare these days, so I have to give them credit.
 
I wonder if having colleges closed to on campus sessions have fucked with gotv operations by the dems? By now the university near me would have tons of political bullshit to register students and be campaigning for the dems.
 
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What changed in the dnc to cause this rabidness? What causes trump derangement syndrome to be so prevalent? Is it the media?

Black Jesus getting in and mounting confidence that the DNC was 'hip' and had their finger on the pulse of America's youth; combined with high returns in the indoctrination practices they'd already had running through the school systems, and the capacity to take advantage of the Immigration issue by marketing themselves as the party of the racial rainbow and unity to weak-willed, overly-empathetic whites. They no longer see the election as a a choice for the American people, but as an unclaimed, uncontested Monarchy that has been usurped by some unforeseen flaw. They are incapable of reconciling that they lost after four years, so they keep jamming on the gas an hyper accelerating to the point where they Win.
 
My earliest of predictions about this election were that Trump wouldn't gain so much of the black vote as much as the Dems would lose it. Does not surprise me in the slightest to see this as a probability at this point.

The loss of the youth vote does not shock me either. The Dems keep counting on it, and they keep ... Not showing up. It's a dumb strategy to appeal to the youngest voting demographic, given the low turnouts every single election cycle. Nothing seems to motivate them to get off their butts to vote, even at the "convenience" of a mail-in ballot.

If women are the group that calls the shots in PA, that is most certainly worrisome. I keep telling Republicans to never underestimate the stupidity of the woman vote.
Yeah this: I might think the idea that the GOP will suddenly pick up all the minorites to be absolutely retarded, but them staying home was always on the table and is more than plausible. Granted, I see the youth in general staying home more likely than the AA vote as there is no way some of these protests will not be turned into voting drives.

As for the Woman vote, well: A lot of the middle aged White Women I know seem to have been driven into a literal frenzy by the media. I could see them cucking Trump out of critical states.
 
My earliest of predictions about this election were that Trump wouldn't gain so much of the black vote as much as the Dems would lose it. Does not surprise me in the slightest to see this as a probability at this point.

The loss of the youth vote does not shock me either. The Dems keep counting on it, and they keep ... Not showing up. It's a dumb strategy to appeal to the youngest voting demographic, given the low turnouts every single election cycle. Nothing seems to motivate them to get off their butts to vote, even at the "convenience" of a mail-in ballot.

If women are the group that calls the shots in PA, that is most certainly worrisome. I keep telling Republicans to never underestimate the stupidity of the woman vote.
Obama and Hillary got the youth and black out. The former is a given, but have you seen the look on those college kids (espeically the girls) faces when Hillary looks to be losing the election. And now, with all this built up animosity towards old white guys, the DNC nominated a really old white guy. But he has the (D), so it's cool apparently.

As much I love them, who understands women these days? Trump harps on and on about "I'll keep you safe!" "I'll make sure the suburbs are protected!" "I support the law enforcement that will respond to your calls to protect you!" And yet, they are the dubious bunch. It's likely COVID fear in them, or the lesser Biden makes me feel safer somehow despite Trump having to ring his support for law enforcement out during the debate. Biden even mocked Trump for being so obsessed with the 'burbs: "This isn't the 1950s!"
 
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