New York Post got their hands on a hard drive from Hunter Biden's laptop and shows Joe Biden lied about Hunter's dealings with Ukraine

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Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

Hunter Biden introduced his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden, to a top executive at a Ukrainian energy firm less than a year before the elder Biden pressured government officials in Ukraine in…

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• https://archive.is/hKrRu

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/hunter-biden-emails-show-leveraging-connections-with-dad-to-boost-burisma-pay/

• https://archive.is/XYjti

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/senate-committee-investigating-hunter-biden-hard-drive-email/

• https://archive.is/tzf98

FBI has had the laptop for over a year already and didn't say anything. Remember when Trump got impeached for congratulating the new President of the Ukraine?

What the hell is the FBI doing?

Supposedly there is also a video of him engaged in a "sex act" and a couple of photo's of him. This is one is particular juicy

 

[Pomniman]

Then we fight this fight again in a decade of so when Gen Xers control the government and they lament the loss of the "old internet" and they turn it back.

I'd rather go without than have everything slowly turned into SA moderation and it is worth the gamble. There are lots of us oldies out here who remember how shit used to be and fucking HATE this creeping death of free speech and ideas. Shitposting is under attack.

Also, how's the fundraising efforts for this site going? Healthy? Clean bill of health? Gonna live a long happy life?

Look, way it stands either Null lets this thing die a slow death overtaken by compliance to the regs as stands or it withers away due to having resources denied due to the hounding of cancel culture.

This site isn't my first rodeo. Been shitposting for a long time. I'm and old E/N site guy. Every single net home I have ever had is dead. The internet, contrary to popular belief, is not forever. They all go away. What matters is the ability for you to find a home. A home to shitpost.

Don't let some webmaster run your ideals and prevent perhaps some positive change when he is going to punch the fuck out of this game long before you do. This might be the best chance we have at getting back at the creeping death that has hounded every open internet discussion forum and slowly killed it since, well, forever. The powers that be are using cancel culture to stamp places like this out. It isn't going to get better.

Yeah, Null's perspective on 230 is understandable from where he stands, but I don't agree with it because he has tunnel vision with how it could shake out for him specifically. Everything else is already about as cucked as it can possibly get so at worst it'll just be business as usual outside of here if further restrictions are applied. The days of the mom and pop internet he's talking about being destroyed by 230-related fallout have been over for a long while now. He's lived a good chunk of his life online and even gone through all sorts of bullshit most others would never bother with to keep this site afloat so he can't fathom losing this tiny corner of the internet he's carved out for himself, but as much as that sucks if the internet has to die, let it die. Something new or maybe even a resurrection of something obsolete will crop up eventually to replace it as the next major communication medium whether the powers that be like it or not.

 

[Poxy Fuckwit]

Yeah, Null's perspective on 230 is understandable from where he stands, but I don't agree with it because he has tunnel vision with how it could shake out for him specifically. Everything else is already about as cucked as it can possibly get so at worst it'll just be business as usual outside of here if further restrictions are applied. The days of the mom and pop internet he's talking about being destroyed by 230-related fallout have been over for a long while now. He's lived a good chunk of his life online and even gone through all sorts of bullshit most others would never bother with to keep this site afloat so he can't fathom losing this tiny corner of the internet he's carved out for himself, but as much as that sucks if the internet has to die, let it die. Something new or maybe even a resurrection of something obsolete will crop up eventually to replace it as the next major communication medium whether the powers that be like it or not.

Even if an internet replacement was going to be made. Politicians will likely have that censored as well until eventually everything becomes nothing more than a propaganda outlet for the government. The reason they feel threatened by the internet is because a lot of people aren’t willing to mindlessly accept flawed law systems. I think part of the reason to why the boomer generation is so patriotic and naive to begin with is because they were mainly filled with nothing but patriotism rather than actual history. The fact younger people are less likely to defend America on subjects like how the Iraq War happened speaks volumes.

I get I’m sounding like some type of conspiracy theorist here. But it’s plausible.

 

[Sperghetti]

There is apparently something major here I'm just not grasping.

Section 230, to my knowledge, only prevents the entities running internet platforms from being held responsible for accusations of libel against something a third party posts. That's about it. If Al makes a post on Facebook and Bob thinks it's a lie that's irreperably damaged his reputation, Bob can't sue Facebook for it. Logically, because Facebook itself was not responsible for posting the libel, it's just the medium that Al decided to write his message on. It would be like if I printed up a bunch of fliers about you that you thought were libelous and stapled them to telephone poles, and you tried to sue the city for owning the telephone poles.

Likewise, the "in good faith" clause is there, to my understanding, to mean that even if one of these entities moderates their platform in order to remove things like explicit content (as opposed to letting it be a free-for-all), they're still not considered "publishers" way a newspaper or magazine would be. Logically, because they're not in complete control of everything their average citizen users posts, unlike a newspaper or magazine that's reviewing everything their hired writers do before it's sent off to print. A journalist who works for the New York Times is writing as a representative of the Times, while you're probably not tweeting as a representative of Twitter, Inc.

Again, I must be missing something huge because to me, the main issue doesn't seem to be that these platforms are abusing their lack of responsibility for content, it's that they're acting like they are responsible for it by trying to clamp down on stories that they haven't explicitly approved. They're not hiding behind Section 230 protections, they're blatantly disregarding them and acting as if they were a publisher.

 

[Ulamog did nothing wrong]

It’s fake.

1. The story of how it was acquired is questionable at best, as at the time Hunter was living in California, not in Delaware. For a second thing, Rudy has a habit of claiming outlandish shit and then never backing it up.

2. The Post didn’t even bother to do any kind of investigation on the emails or the harddrive. I doubt Rudy did either.

3. The original hard drive isn’t available. Verifying the files veracity thus becomes difficult at best. The whole thing smells funky.

4. This would have been evidence available to the Senate Republicans when they did their whole nothingburger review, if the OG hard drive was taken into federal custody. It would have come out months ago.

5. This stinks of disinformation being fed to a gullible source (Rudy) by a third party of some kind.

That may be the case, but they are using known "facts" about him in any case to propagate it. The reality remains that (((media))) of any sorts is always manipulated no matter what angle they try to take. He is known for drug addiction and sexual proclivities that make normal people cringe at best. In my opinion it is true, addicts are not known for OPSEC when they do their stuff and finding pics or videos of him would not be too hard. I think where the line is crossed, sort of speak, is that they sensationalize everything into a literal shit-show for people to have a guttural reaction to things. They have done so to Trump for 4 years now and he is simply showing them that he can do the same. After 4 years of showing how much he loves in israel (((the greatest ally and nation to have ever exist, whose morality is beyond perfect and as chosen by God himself, we all love and protect))), it should come as no surprise that would spring these trap doors right on the cusp on what is arguably a contested election.

PS. extra parenthesis were use in the comment to showcase the importance of the one and true chosen people.

 

[Poxy Fuckwit]

There is apparently something major here I'm just not grasping.

Section 230, to my knowledge, only prevents the entities running internet platforms from being held responsible for accusations of libel against something a third party posts. That's about it. If Al makes a post on Facebook and Bob thinks it's a lie that's irrepuably damaged his reputation, Bob can't sue Facebook for it. Logically, because Facebook itself was not responsible for posting the libel, it's just the medium that Al decided to write his message on. It would be like if I printed up a bunch of fliers about you that you thought were libelous and stapled them to telephone poles, and you tried to sue the city for owning the telephone poles.

Likewise, the "in good faith" clause is there, to my understanding, to mean that even if one of these entities moderates their platform in order to remove things like explicit content (as opposed to letting it be a free-for-all), they're still not considered "publishers" way a newspaper or magazine would be. Logically, because they're not in complete control of everything their average citizen users posts, unlike a newspaper or magazine that's reviewing everything their hired writers do before it's sent off to print. A journalist who works for the New York Times is writing as a representative of the Times, while you're probably not tweeting as a representative of Twitter, Inc.

Again, I must be missing something huge because to me, the main issue doesn't seem to be that these platforms are abusing their lack of responsibility for content, it's that they're acting like they are responsible for it by trying to clamp down on stories that they haven't explicitly approved. They're not hiding behind Section 230 protections, they're blatantly disregarding them and acting as if they were a publisher.

I wouldn’t really care about this that much if the removal of protections were only for Twitter and Facebook. But considering both Democrats and Republicans want to remove it entirely which will heavily effect sites like this. I think that’s why a lot of people on here aren’t siding with Trump on this.

 

[Pomniman]

Even if an internet replacement was going to be made. Politicians will likely have that censored as well until eventually everything becomes nothing more than a propaganda outlet for the government. The reason they feel threatened by the internet is because a lot of people aren’t willing to mindlessly accept flawed law systems. I think part of the reason to why the boomer generation is so patriotic and naive to begin with is because they were mainly filled with nothing but patriotism rather than actual history. The fact younger people are less likely to defend America on subjects like how the Iraq War happened speaks volumes.

I get I’m sounding like some type of conspiracy theorist here. But it’s plausible.

It's not that anything new will be censor-proof but that the move from one infrastructure to another will delay attempts to censor it. There's obviously always going to be an effort to control whatever the most popular medium of the day is, but it's not as fast-acting or flawless as you'd think and takes time to fully catch up to new developments whether they're technological or cultural. It's pointless to cling to the internet as the end-all-be-all because whatever room there is for dissent on mainstream sites and internet-based platforms has already shrunk to the point of near non-existence.

 

[ScatmansWorld]

Holy shit he actually said it. It just gets more clown world by the minute.

 

[The best and greatest]

You really think if that was the case that Hunter couldn't just ask Joe for a guy that he could trust to fix his laptop instead of taking it to some random computer repairshop in NY that happens to be run by a QAnontard?

Reality is under no obligation to make sense to you with your small, finite perspective.

Sometimes truth is just stranger than fiction

 

[ddlloo]

A guy who has gotten where he has while living life that way would certainly be aware. His dad would likely know someone who could repair it and not blow it. I mean, I am sure Joe has had to have laptops with top-secret crap on them repaired.

Just hilarious to me how you guys are skeptical of anything anti-Trump, yet you all fall for this hook, line and sinker

What scandal of Trump's is even comparable to this? 95% of Trump's scandals are some anonymous nigger saying that Trump said mean words, there's never any fucking proof. The recent tax thing is maybe the closest? They wont even show the returns ffs, and instead filter the reporting through some 'analysts' who have supposedly seen it.

Compare all that to a treasure trove of emails and photos being directly shown to us and that the Biden campaign isn't even fucking denying are real. Hell, their first response was to misderect and say Rudy (who I will grant you is fucking batshit insane these days) is being manipulated by Russians, then they said 'AHA! Biden never even had an officially callendered meeting with this one ukranian nigger!' and now we're at 'w-well he might have had a meet and greet'. They aren't denying any of this shit.

Until the Biden campaign actually comes out and shoots down a single email, document, or photo as being fabricated then I'm going to full fledged believe this is real. Is it possible that there might eventually be some bullshit mixed in by third parties? Sure. But as of yet there isn't even a single allegation of that from the campaign. Use your head. Hunter Biden is a retarded crackhead who got thrown out of the marines for being coked up druggy, he's infamous for fucking strippers and getting embarrassed in family court. After decades of giving himself brain damage, of course he's fucking retarded enough to give a laptop with all this shit on it to some random PC repair guy and then forget about it.

 

[Meat Target]

Tell that to boomers on Facebook. Anyone who believes Q is a retard

And anyone who thinks a majority, or even a significant number, of right-wingers, believe in QAnon is a retard attacking a strawman.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

A guy who has gotten where he has while living life that way would certainly be aware.

This man was kicked out of the military for coke addiction, and has blown out his mental faculties on methamphetamine.

Do you not know how drugs work? Have you been paying attention?

I mean, I am sure Joe has had to have laptops with top-secret crap on them repaired.

...how much do you know about sensitive information control?

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

some random computer repairshop in NY that happens to be run by a QAnontard?

Do you have any evidence at all that the shop was run by a "QAnontard" (as if that somehow makes the recently leaked photos of Hunter Biden into photoshops or some shit)? This is literally the first time I've heard of such a thing.

 

[Absolutego]

I love the insistence that after scandals involving Weiner leaving his nudes and some of Hillary's emails on his laptop, Hillary herself hiring a tech with so little opsec he was asking redditors for advice on how to purge her email archive, and the general non-tech nonsense questions they ask Zuckerberg and Dorsey whenever they get summoned for a congressional browbeating, that it's beyond the pale that Joe Biden's meth head son had such poor technical opsec that he left a computer full of incriminating evidence somewhere he shouldn't have.

Nope, Diamond Joe's too clever for that! Trust the plan, @Hollywood Hulk Hogan! Where Joe Goes, We Go As Well!

You aren't any different from the Qanon tards you name drop every third sentence or so.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

I wouldn’t really care about this that much if the removal of protections were only for Twitter and Facebook. But considering both Democrats and Republicans want to remove it entirely which will heavily effect sites like this. I think that’s why a lot of people on here aren’t siding with Trump on this.

Plus the fact that most internet servers tend to be based out of the US means it'll affect people outside the US just as badly as other countries have to conform to the rules set by whoever is in charge. I keep saying this on the main thread for this topic, but generally speaking, what happens over in the US eventually comes to hurt the rest of the world. So seeing two senile old men and their goons try to take away what is probably the most important thing keeping the internet from completely falling apart is something that'll affect everyone. And I do mean everyone.

If they just kept this shit to FB and Twitter, maybe monitored their mods' actions more closely or slapped them with papers, then we wouldn't be having this issue. But since one of them is in a pissing match with social media and the other's a liberal, everyone's got to be affected. And sites like KF, 4Chan and their ilk are caught in the crosshairs as Section 230 was the biggest reason why those site could stay up in the first place.

 

[The best and greatest]

A guy who has gotten where he has while living life that way would certainly be aware. His dad would likely know someone who could repair it and not blow it. I mean, I am sure Joe has had to have laptops with top-secret crap on them repaired.

Just hilarious to me how you guys are skeptical of anything anti-Trump, yet you all fall for this hook, line and sinker

Do you know Joe Biden? What makes you such an authority on what "Would have" or "Is supposed to have" happened under these very particular set of circumstances?

You say you're so sure about what Joe Biden would do or wouldn't do, why even assume he puts thought to any of this and hasnt delegated the responsibility to someone else?

Your beliefs are predicated on nothing save what you want to be true. At the very least this makes you no better than all of the people who want it to be true

 

[SpookNuker]

Yeah but the Trumpers want to stick it to Twitter because they deleted Dear Leader's tweet

Personally, I'd stick it to Twitter regardless of the reason. Whatever leads to them squirming and screaming is right by me.

so even if they lose the last place they can use the n-word, they don't care.

Oh, I can't speak for them, but I do care. An outright dismantling of 230 should best be avoided. Perhaps you should lay some blame on the entities abusing it and facilitating this situation?

And by the way, thanks for reminding me - you're a nigger.

 

[MightyBiteySnake]

It’s fake.

1. The story of how it was acquired is questionable at best, as at the time Hunter was living in California, not in Delaware. For a second thing, Rudy has a habit of claiming outlandish shit and then never backing it up.

2. The Post didn’t even bother to do any kind of investigation on the emails or the harddrive. I doubt Rudy did either.

3. The original hard drive isn’t available. Verifying the files veracity thus becomes difficult at best. The whole thing smells funky.

4. This would have been evidence available to the Senate Republicans when they did their whole nothingburger review, if the OG hard drive was taken into federal custody. It would have come out months ago.

5. This stinks of disinformation being fed to a gullible source (Rudy) by a third party of some kind.

Eat the fucking hat techpriest

 

[LUNEKO]

I wouldn’t really care about this that much if the removal of protections were only for Twitter and Facebook. But considering both Democrats and Republicans want to remove it entirely which will heavily effect sites like this. I think that’s why a lot of people on here aren’t siding with Trump on this.

Trump is too much of a fossil to give a fuck about the internet, if it went down itd be just another monday for him, most of his twitter posts are handled by his media team anyway, since Biden is pushing for reworking 230 too its safe to assume this isn't exclusively a Trump move, and rather this is just a government wide idea being pushed to once again clamp down on civilian liberties, they saw how China was handling their internet and instead of being horrified and appreciative of free internet they instead said
"Oh we should try that!"

 

[oldTireWater]

Hulk Hogan's only goal in this thread is to dilute information with noise. It's not productive to debate him here.

 

[Dark Edea]

Chanel Rion is straight-up waifu tier.
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I wish a OANN waifu would talk shit on my dick on 4chan.