2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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los pepes said:
Even if they are who cares. none of the democrat internal polls showed hillary losing the midwest or pa or else she would have been campaigning there instead of trying to rack up the popular vote in CA. And she wouldn't have been expecting an easy win and been so distraught she had to wait until the next day to even be seen in public. Their polls are not infallible, as they are only as good as the assumptions that are put into them. In the case of dems they are drowning in group think and confirmation bias.
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heyitsmike said:
There's always a favorable house effect.

Propaganda national polls > Biden internal polls > actual public opinion > Trump internal polls.

However, due to differential turnout I expect the actual results to be closer to Trump internal polls than actual public opinion. In other words, people may like Biden more than Trump, but not enough to actually go out and vote for him.
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Not to drag this into a doomer fest but how are Trump's internal polls more accurate than Biden's. I know the national polls are BS, but the internal polls are a different story.
 
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heyitsmike said:
There's always a favorable house effect.

Propaganda national polls > Biden internal polls > actual public opinion > Trump internal polls.
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We don't even know what Trump knows to begin with. Also, why even leak the Biden internals on Twitter of all places? That's asking for more complacency.

Biden's internals have him crushing Trump in Michigan, which PO says Trump is doing better in, which is why Biden is going to Michigan (today at least). The man is up more in those internals for MI, than he is PA.

These internals also make the implication that an "Obama Happening" will occur, which is already BS.

And the biggest "fake and gay" of all is -1.odd in Texas. Biden hasn't even touched the south save for Florida, which he should just give up on to go to the Rust Belt.

The only polls I'm trusting are People's Pundit and what is revealed on Election Night. Enough weekly doom. There's already enough of that to worry about.
 
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Honest Coyote said:
What if it's because the Democrats are so internally divided that child things are one of the few safe reference points as a group? Anything too complex or adult risks being "triggering".
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I'm certain their preoccupation with, and catering to, children is a fair bit more sinister than that.
 
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los pepes said:
Why didn't hillary's internal polls tell her that she was losing the midwest and should actually oh I don't know, campaign there?
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The funny thing is that if Trump really were a Russian puppet like the Dems claim, that means Putin's internal polls must have been more accurate than Hillary's!
 
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Truthboi said:
Not to drag this into a doomer fest but how are Trump's internal polls more accurate than Biden's. I know the national polls are BS, but the internal polls are a different story.
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Bidens People are realy bad at everything. They are even worse than Clintons. Obamas people left when Obama left.
 
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They are tarnishing the name of Mr. Rodgers in order to make Joe look better
 
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CheezzyMach said:
Meh, Trans shit is just the Left's take on Gay Conversion Therapy.
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You know to be honest nowadays the religious may be a group of gay-ass fundies, but I really wanna know if that gay conversion therapy really worked. We have too many faggots running around. I've met many a girl identify as a bisexual and that horrifies me truly in terms of my future prospects.
 
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los pepes said:
Even if they are who cares. none of the democrat internal polls showed hillary losing the midwest or pa or else she would have been campaigning there instead of trying to rack up the popular vote in CA. And she wouldn't have been expecting an easy win and been so distraught she had to wait until the next day to even be seen in public. Their polls are not infallible, as they are only as good as the assumptions that are put into them. In the case of dems they are drowning in group think and confirmation bias.
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I'd need to hear more about how much Clinton believed her internal polls prior to the election. I've read parts of "Shattered" but didn't get through it all. Did they really have her up by that much in internal polls during mid-October, like Biden is now?
heyitsmike said:
There's always a favorable house effect.

Propaganda national polls > Biden internal polls > actual public opinion > Trump internal polls.

However, due to differential turnout I expect the actual results to be closer to Trump internal polls than actual public opinion. In other words, people may like Biden more than Trump, but not enough to actually go out and vote for him.

Dang it. I was afraid of that.
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I was wondering why Trump always claiming he was ahead in the polls in states like Nevada (he did so in the Rush Limbaugh interview at the start) and I think this confirms it. It's why the one time when a GOP representative claimed Biden was only up by five, I didn't buy it. I thought that, if anything, internal polling would be the most impartial so that it would give candidates an honest assessment of how they are doing in a state. Doing otherwise, IMO, would be a huge disservice to either candidates.

Though I will admit, I am questioning why Biden national double digit leads are inflated yet we're supposed to believe Biden will win Virginia and Colorado by double digits. I know Trump isn't winning them, but I'd imagine it would be single digits even for how much they have changed as states.
 
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Michigan absentee ballots will NOT be counted if they arrive after election day, appeals court rules, overturning a decision by a court of claims judge to allow them to be counted if they arrived up to 14 days after election day.
The court also overturned said lower judge's ruling expanding who was allowed to collect another person's ballots.
The lawsuit that led to these decisions was brought by the Michigan Alliance for Retired Americans against secretary of state Jocelyn Benson (D). However, Secretary Benson did not appeal the ruling; instead, Michigan legislators did. It is unknown as yet whether MARA will appeal to the state supreme court.
The court of appeals' order returns us to the text of the law, which says ballots must be received by 8 pm election day.
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CeleryStalks said:
Michigan absentee ballots will NOT be counted if they arrive after election day, appeals court rules, overturning a decision by a court of claims judge to allow them to be counted if they arrived up to 14 days after election day.
The court also overturned said lower judge's ruling expanding who was allowed to collect another person's ballots.
The lawsuit that lead to these decisions was brought by the Michigan Alliance for Retired Americans against secretary of state Jocelyn Benson (D). However, Secretary Benson did not appeal the ruling; instead, Michigan legislators did. It is unknown as yet whether MARA will appeal to the state supreme court.
The court of appeals' order returns us to the text of the law, which says ballots must be received by 8 pm election day.
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Well, if Whitmer doesn't outright declare herself duchess of Michigan, Trump's odds of winning the state again are looking stable, if not improving.
 
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Lodoss Warrior said:
Well, if Whitmer doesn't outright declare herself duchess of Michigan, Trump's odds of winning the state again are looking stable, if not improving.
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Big if there buddy.

Whitmer might just start the next Fort Sumter incident to fully declare the "True and Honest Antifa Americans" revolution.
 
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