2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Harvey Danger]

I'm not so sure. The thing that makes Trump's strategy work... is Trump. I don't think you can replicate his success with anyone else.

Perhaps, but even before 2016 there were signs that political ads were becoming less effective, certainly less cost-effective. Getting outspent 2:1 and winning means there are alternate paths available, even if the campaign isn't based on personal charisma.

What I'd like to see is the Republicans turn into a proper populist party at the state level. Politicians tend to be more popular locally than nationally. Post-2020, if the GOP can coordinate each individual state's party to hold issue-based rallies, supporting state-level initiatives/laws/constitutional amendments, they could attach local politicians to those movements. That drives enthusiasm to trickle up to the Presidential candidate, while removing the pressure and cost from the Presidential campaign. (Basically a reversal of the Presidential candidate's "coattails" helping the ticket down ballot.)

But that's a more holistic plan for the party than just the 2020 election though. Point is, if Trump can show Presidential victories are at least possible without a billion-dollar price tag, it opens up political strategists to new ways of thinking about campaigns.

 

[heyitsmike]

Trump can show Presidential victories are at least possible without a billion-dollar price tag

I think Bloomberg proved that better than Trump did. He spent a billion dollars and didn't even get out of the Dem primaries. If that's not proof that money isn't everything, I don't know what is.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

As we get closer to the election, I'm getting more and more nervous about whether or not Trump can do it. I am contemplating doing another bet but it's so crazy how the Dems have gotten so corrupt, they are perfectly fine with doing election fraud to get what they want. And with the pandemic I am just unsure if Trump can get enough votes for the electoral collage...or the popular vote even.

 

[the fall of man]

Welp, if landslide is trending then I guess the terrorists win. Look at that massive tweet count



Just kidding. The election is lost, so it’s more important you know how to riot- I mean, how to avoid the white supremacist “coup”.


“Trump is a narcissist and an authoritarian”


“If Fox News calls the race you must riot”



“Leaderful”

 

[MrJokerRager]

Apparently Microsoft Excel offers a function now to make charts out of maps. Looks like this is a advantage for Microsoft, being able to have good map software that can be used for video games like Microsoft Flight Simulator and for work like Microsoft Excel.

Trump raw vote count in 2020 primaries.

Biden raw vote count in 2020 primaries.

Trump vs Bernie vote difference in 2020.

Trump vs Bernie vote difference in 2016.

Election 2016 vote difference.

2016 primary vote difference between Hillary and Trump

Trump raw votes in 2016 election.

Hillary raw votes in 2016 election.

 

[The Pink Panther]

And how does that go against libertarianism?

It goes against right-libertarianism.

And even then open borders is stupid policy-wise. We're supposed to finding for the personal liberties of the people, not for the "liberties" of immigrants, that of which includes allowing our immigration system to be a disorganized mess.

Have you actually listened to anything she's said? "Jorgensen said some things, she's literally Biden" is pretty much as dumb as saying Trump is Hitler (then again, you did admit to formerly suffering from TDS, while I actively wanted him to win over Hillary and laughed nonstop for a week when he clutched it).

I laughed nonstop for a week when he clutched it too. I called his presidency despite TDS, idiot. The seethe was funny.

And it's not as if I'm saying that she's LITERALLY Biden, I'm saying that a lot of the policy positions that she roots for are very similar to the one's Biden roots for.

 

[Eris!]

And even then open borders is stupid policy-wise. We're supposed to finding for the personal liberties of the people, not for the "liberties" of immigrants, that of which includes allowing our immigration system to be a disorganized mess.

One of the most subtle subversions that have taken place in our society is the implicit removal of "the" from "the people." The definite article makes it specific. There is a specific thing, an identifiable object, called "the people." This has transitioned to an indefinite, "people." No longer is it a government "by the people" and "for the people," but a government "by people" and "for people." Any people. The people are interchangeable. If they flipped a switch that thanos snapped all Americans and replaced us all with immigrants it would still be "by people" and "for people," but it wouldn't be "by the people" and "for the people," because the people are dead.

It's actually shocking how pervasive this unconscious change has been.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Early voting was the best idea the Democrats ever pushed.

I guess this the Democrat campaign shifting to the "we're losing" phase to weed complacency.

 

[heyitsmike]

As we get closer to the election, I'm getting more and more nervous about whether or not Trump can do it. I am contemplating doing another bet but it's so crazy how the Dems have gotten so corrupt, they are perfectly fine with doing election fraud to get what they want. And with the pandemic I am just unsure if Trump can get enough votes for the electoral collage...or the popular vote even.

I'm getting more confident. In the last month, my lowest point of confidence was right after the first debate when Biden looked better than I expected. And around the time when the second debate was called off. A lot was riding on Trump winning the debates, and a draw plus a cancellation meant the last one was overly important.

But what made me really start to get bullish on Trump again was actually the polls going against him showing these ridiculous margins. These numbers are like the Avenatti's client of polls: they are so ridiculous on their face that they scream the whole thing is bullshit. So I knew that they wouldn't be massaging the polls to that extent if Biden was actually in good shape. And then the suppression and censorship from big tech blowing up the Hunter Biden story. Plus the Hunter Biden story itself.

I think he's in good shape.

 

[DtoDab]

She's not flipflopping, she's pretty carefully addressing both sides of issues.

Also, "REAL libertarians want government-protected borders, a strong police force, and the government to enforce free speech on privately-owned websites" is retarded gatekeeping.

If there is one thing that living in a third world country has taught me, is that being too liberal when there are literal communists trying to power grab and bend everything and everyone to their will is a really bad stance to take.

Live and let live is a bad strategy when the other guy just wants to fucking murder you.

 

[jje100010001]

I'm getting more confident. In the last month, my lowest point of confidence was right after the first debate when Biden looked better than I expected. And around the time when the second debate was called off. A lot was riding on Trump winning the debates, and a draw plus a cancellation meant the last one was overly important.

But what made me really start to get bullish on Trump again was actually the polls going against him showing these ridiculous margins. These numbers are like the Avenatti's client of polls: they are so ridiculous on their face that they scream the whole thing is bullshit. So I knew that they wouldn't be massaging the polls to that extent if Biden was actually in good shape. And then the suppression and censorship from big tech blowing up the Hunter Biden story. Plus the Hunter Biden story itself.

I think he's in good shape.

Right, watch the smoke, not the fire.

What the handlers are doing, what media chooses as their narratives (vs the actual truth), and which states the campaigns are prioritizing (not to mention where the candidates are travelling).

 

[CrippleThreat]

Trump's in Wisconsin now:

 

[FuckedUp]

It goes against right-libertarianism.

True.

And even then open borders is stupid policy-wise. We're supposed to finding for the personal liberties of the people, not for the "liberties" of immigrants, that of which includes allowing our immigration system to be a disorganized mess.

I don't agree with open borders either, and your points are valid, but I doubt open borders here would end up like the EU's situation—it was made a lot worse by the fact they had active quotas, much more generous government handouts, gave refugees a slap on the wrist for serious crimes, unarmed citizens much less able to prevent aforementioned serious crimes, etc.

Oh yeah, JoJo's also an isolationist.

I laughed nonstop for a week when he clutched it too. I called his presidency despite TDS, idiot. The seethe was funny.

Fair enough, I'll admit I shouldn't have assumed that about you myself.

And it's not as if I'm saying that she's LITERALLY Biden, I'm saying that a lot of the policy positions that she roots for are very similar to the one's Biden roots for.

Okay true, you didn't say she's literally Biden, but it's still a pretty idiotic thing to say. For starters, Biden wants to take away guns, is pro-Obamacare, and...don't say her stance on the COVID response is just what "hooked me in", because that's the one issue that made 2020 2000-fucking-20 as we know it: if it wasn't for that one thing, politics wouldn't have a much bigger role in my life than online discussion—I'd be hanging out at college, talking with people IRL, taking classes in-person as intended, etc. like in October '19.

 

[Quantum Diabetes]

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Tee hee

 

[The Pink Panther]

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Tee hee

ummm what is that a picture of? It's Hunter and is that....

 

[Puff]

ummm what is that a picture of? It's Hunter and is that....

I believe it's been debunked as being Hunter already.

 

[Canoodler]

ummm what is that a picture of? It's Hunter and is that....

Hunter is snorting coke off a woman's ass
Edit: Seems to be debunked. Nevermind.

 

[Salubrious]

What I don't honestly understand - and maybe some of the left leaning guys can let me know if I've unknowingly become blind to the other side (possible at this point) - is how is the tribalism in this election so bad that you are OK with your side using the media to silence your opposition? Like, this whole thing with Twitter/Facebook silencing ANYONE talking about this story when they've never done this before - silencing our own government trying to talk about the corruption of a political rival - how does that not set off a few alarms in your head that you might be on the wrong side in this one? Is it just that they're in too deep now or what?

It's like every single dystopia of their YA novels growing up that they love to make analogies to. But like, this shit is actually happening lmao. How can they still think that they're the resistance, or at the very least, the 'good' guys?

Because Trump is so evil that they need to censor him and his cronies to protect the American public from his lies and conspiracies.

It's literally "but what about the children?" on a larger scale. I've heard people say that it is their RESPONSIBILITY to protect people from Trump's lies.

 

[Nguyen Van Phuoc]

I believe it's been debunked as being Hunter already.

Yeah, it's just some random porn vid

That's not him. An anonymous coomer recognized this video(NSFW) as the source.

 

[Salubrious]

what the fuck is this Blue Georgia meme?

Nate Silver legitimately believes that Biden is leading in Georgia, or is at worst 50-50.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/will-georgia-turn-blue/