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Allanon said:
I'm generally against anything that the founding fathers were leery of. I wouldn't be for extending term limits either, because they wanted us to only have single term presidents as well. I understand the reasoning behind it: they abhorred the concept of there being a nobility or aristocracy class made up of presidential candidates or lifetime rulers, because they knew full well that people would vote for the familiar (ie; incumbents and their heirs) over policies, and would either unwittingly vote in themselves a pseudo-monarchy that turned the free vote into a joke or be manipulated into it.
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If what they teach in school is correct GW served two terms and had to turn down the offer of being proclaimed king. Not sure if the founders wanted only single term presidents. The first one served 2.


Besides that, your concerns makes sense. I'm not of the opinion that the founders were infallible.
 
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Salubrious said:
It's why after the Breonna Taylor verdict came back, they all screamed that she didn't get justice.

Her case was brought before a grand jury. Just because the Grand Jury didn't give you the verdict you wanted doesn't mean justice wasn't done.
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I remember them claiming the police cared more about property than Breanna Taylor. Honestly i don't know the full story behind her so i don't know how to feel about it.
 
TowinKarz said:
I think they're envious that, unlike their chosen candidate, Biden, (and a lot of others too), he has a family that manages to just stay on the sidelines without turning into insufferable political baggage or corrupt coke-snorting buffoons.

The left can't stand that not only won't Trump step in a scandal, but, neither will any of his immediate relatives drag him into one either, through direct action or damage-control.
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I don't think they're afraid of a dynasty. None of the Trump kids strike me as possible Presidential contenders; they're competent at what they do, and they're good at the family business, but they simply aren't up to what their dad has done.

However, the threat to the left is that they are loyal to Trump. A huge part of the anti-Trump strategy has been to isolate him by taking down his allies, attacking anyone he appoints, smearing anyone who works with him, and guilt-tripping people who are considering working for his Administration. Candidates who win the Presidency usually get their entire party burying the hatchet so they can fill the seats of power, but Trump and the GOP remained hostile. He is in constant danger of running out of competent people to run things.

That's where his kids come in. He doesn't have a House leader to run policy, so he lets Ivanka be the visible policy wonk. The State Department fights him like they fought Bush, so he has Jared Kushner go kick-start peace deals. The usual GOP "political operatives" won't run cover for him, so Don Jr gets the job. The other kids and spouses fill in as spokespeople and PR.

Trump's family is because they are the highest level support network he still has available. Unlike Biden's family, they are actually good at what they do. That's a double reason for the left to throw TDS at them: they directly represent Orange Man Bad, and they threaten the left's attempts to grab power (which is the worst sin of all).
 
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More dangerous rhetoric from
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A Welsh Cake said:
I am also terrified. Please stop yelling at me ma'am, I'm not even American.
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Yeah my ears drums blew out
 
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I just watched this again and two things stuck out at me:


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The Left is gonna be furious when they find out how many sentences the Golden Oreo commuted.
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1715 people, to be exact.
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This, to me, is very telling. Ignore for a moment all of the facts, lies, half-truths, and political spin on things the president might have done, both good and bad. What is an impeachment?
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An impeachment is an accusation. The impeached person is now a defendant.

Impeachment is not the process (the trial) or the result (the verdict) of acting on the accusation.

The president cannot be tried by a jury of his peers because he has none. At no time are there any people in the country working in the same position with the same level of access, and certainly not enough living former presidents to fill an unbiased jurybox. Since we can't go small we go big. That's why Congress is entrusted with the impeachment process; it is presumed that a representative whole of the country is moral enough to put the pieces of the case together for the good of Republic. Upon completion, Congress issues a binding verdict.

One of the core tenets of American justice is "innocent until proven guilty." It's cliche, but it's true. With that in mind, look at statements like Pelosi's "forever impeached" statement and then apply it to literally any other accused person that got acquitted, either at first or on appeal.

OJ Simpson? Forever a wife killer.
Micheal Jackson? Forever a kiddy diddler.
Lizzy Borden? Forever an axe murderer with daddy issues.
The Central Park Five? Forever rapists.

I'm not pushing any judgement here on the cases mentioned. I of course have my personal opinions on those people, but in the eyes of the law they have no debt to pay because they didn't commit a crime. You can't "forever be" what you never were - even if that "never was" is retroactively applied thanks to an appeal.

To bring it back home to the clip, I believe this represents one of the most honest insights into the mindset of the TDS Left.

To them, the accusation against Trump IS the proof of Trump's guilt. We see this sort of mob justice weaponized time after time in every facet of Current Year life; it's colloquially known as cancel culture.

The impeachment trial was correspondingly a mere formality to them, little more than theatrical paperwork. In their eyes, it has nothing to do with confirming the truth and everything to do with confirming their truth.

Since the process worked as intended but the Left didn't like the outcome it's now Trump's fault that he submitted a proper defense, thereby "breaking" one of their favorite tool in the toolbox, even though the Left has no one to blame but themselves.

TL;DR: Trump is like the big brother that didn't want to play Barbie with his annoying little sister, so the little sister broke all her dolls in anger while blaming her older brother for "making her do it."
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Also there is the fact that, besides the TDS fueled desire to get rid of Trump before his term was up due to them being so pissy that he won that they couldn't even wait a full four years to get him out of office via an actual election, the Democrats insane impeachment debacle DID ruin impeachment in that they effectivey confirmed that impeachment is NOTHING but a partisan nuclear bomb used when the party out of power in the White House wants to stage a coup and illegally remove a sitting President. And wiping out ALL of the moral high ground the Democrats held to for decades over how Bill Clinton's impeachment was "illegitimate" the same way that conservatives, normies, and moderates saw the Trump impeachment as illegitimate.

The impeachment of Andrew Johnson was an explicit wholesale coup, due to the Radical Republicans wanting him gone because Johnson was soft on the Confederacy as far as bringing them back into the US after the Civil War (the Radical Republicans wanted to completely break the south, economically, spiritually, and politically so they'd never have the balls to try to secede again). It was such a partisan internal coup attempt, that no one tried to impeach anyone ever again until Nixon.

Nixon never got to the point that he actually went to trial in the Senate, but there is longstanding belief that the Democrats and their allies in the media basically made such a huge atmosphere of anti-Nixon sentiment that they were successfully able to bully House/Senate Republicans into forcing Nixon to resign, with Ford pardon as the carrot to them throwing Nixon under the bus. Democrats explicitly believed that Nixon's fall from grace was the death of the GOP as a political party, but they misread the mood of the nation and that they only managed a single Presidential term out of it, as Carter got clobbered by Reagan, who was Nixon on steroids. And to draw a parallel to Trump regarding this, there was a big undercurrent during the impeachment debacle one of the chief reasons that the GOP didn't turn on Trump through all of this, was due to Fox News and the online right wing media sphere, which fought tooth and claw against the liberal media's smear campaign to frame Trump and which was an outlet for conservative and normie/moderate voters to voice their disgust at the coup attempt, which stiffened the backbones of the GOP Congressional members to allow them to avoid being cowed into turning on Trump.

And going back to Clinton; the chief defense of why the Democrats stood by Bill has long been "it was a right wing conspiracy to find ANYTHING to oust him because the GOP couldn't fucking stand having lost the Presidency after 12 years controlling it!". It was the left who ultimately pioneered the defense against impeachment as being "it's nothing more than a tool to carry out an illegal coup under the flimsiness of legal pretexts!" and why Pelosi point blank REFUSED to impeach Bush when the Democrats won back the House in 2006. They knew they would be condemned as staging a coup and that it would be a PR nightmare given that they didn't even have the Senate let alone the 2/3rds majority needed to get a conviction. But they had to get rid of Trump because it was HER TURN god damn it, as far as his existence as as President pissing them of so much that they pretty much confirmed their own crying that impeachment against Bill was a scam by doing the exact same thing to Trump.

And even facing the fact that impeachment in the House was meaningless due to the lack of a 2/3rd majority in the Senate, was defended by Pelosi using the same logic used by the GOP when it became apparent that Clinton wasn't going to be convicted: that he was still "impeached" and that would be the ultimate black mark on Bill Clinton's presidency history-wise. It became more or less about "staining" the Presidency by putting Trump's name on the same list as Clinton and Nixon and Johnson.

breadandcircuses said:
He was in the shitty Pacific Rim sequel after Episode VII.
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Boyega's a nasty cunt and has a reputation of being a huge diva and impossible to work with. He LOVES to play the race card, gets pissy if he's not front and center and the centerpiece of any film he does marketing/advertising campaign-wise, and he recently took a torch and burned his bridges with Disney, as Boyega thinking he was going to be the Harrison Ford of Star Wars and that the trilogy was going to launch him into a multi-decade career as one of Hollywood's top leading men; only to find that Disney backed off their plans of making Finn "THE" main character once they realized that people didn't like Boyega or his character.

Jigglyjogglers said:
Forgiving the descent into fiction as political comparison, but what they want is Cardassian-style justice. We've brought this up a few times before in the thread, but there's an episode of Deep Space Nine where O'Brien is put on trial by the Cardassians, and his "advocate" explains how trials there work. The guilty verdict has already been decided before he was ever taken into custody, because after all what sort of abominable justice system would arrest an innocent person? The following extremely public trial is merely to let everyone feel good about the predetermined outcome... it's not about proving anything, judging anything, the state has already made that decision in private and no one needs to know about it because how could the state be wrong? So they get up, they put on a show, the populace nods along and everyone feels good about themselves as the predetermined verdict is read.

Fiction, sure, but doesn't it sound eerily like what they were openly declaring and demanding from Trump's impeachment? "We don't need evidence, we know he's guilty." "He's been impeached, that proves he's guilty." "Why would we need a vote, we know he's guilty." "The senate committed a crime because we know he's guilty."

What Trump "ruined" was the show, the event, the spectacle. He was supposed to collapse wailing and beg forgiveness for his predetermined guilt, throw himself on the mercy of the state, and weep bitterly as he was beheaded live on television. But he just had to go and ruin it by being innocent.
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Trump fighting back wasn't the sole issue, it was that the GOP in the Senate were the ones telling the Democrats and the media to go fuck themselves with a razor dildo and die from the razor dildo slicing up their cunts/assholes and bleeding to death as a result when they tried to bully them into turning on Trump to help speed the coup along by betraying Trump and forcing him to resign in exchange for not being impeached/convicted.

As mentioned above, the Democrats strategy for impeachment is to basically bully and blackmail and extort (as seen by the fact that they had Larry Flynn of Hustler Magazine gather blackmail material for the Clintons of GOP extra-marital affairs to use as weapons to derail Bill impeachment; to the point that Flynn has all but admitted that Newt Gingrich resigning like he did after the 1998 mid-terms wasn't due to him failing to deliver a super-majority for the GOP/losing seats to the Democrats, was due to the Clintons and Flynn blackmailing him with his own affairs into resigning and how they nuked from orbit via leaking his affairs to the press, the first person slated to replace Newt when he refused to call off the impeachment vote) the GOP into helping them and crushing them to if they resist. The Democrats granted were at a disadvantage; one of their chief aids in this, John McCain was dead and that freed Lindsay Graham to support Trump since McCain wasn't around to threaten to expose Lindsay as a closet gay man. And Collins and whatsherface were basically on notice after they stabbed McConnell and Trump in the back voting against getting rid of Obamacare and had to vote to acquit.

I truly believe that were was a serious "Trump will resign rather than risk impeachment and that McConnell, the Senate, and Pence can be bullied into forcing Trump to resign" mindset durng the impeachment. That it was a poker game to Pelosi, Schumer, etc and that they never fucking expected Trump/McConnell to call their bluff.
 
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once they realized that people didn't like Boyega or his character.
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>once they remembered China hates black people

FTFY, he's not even on the Chinese poster for TFA.

Doesn't disprove your point, just wanted to add that. It's why I laugh when progs demand more nonwhite people in Disney movies. Disney makes them for China, and China only watches movies with white people in them, so what do they expect?
 
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