Snowflake shoe0nhead / June Lapine / June La Porta & Armoured Skeptic / Gregory "Greg" Fluhrer - A poor man's Boxxy: rejected by Vaush, disowned by /pol/ for burning coal, sleeps in a dog's bed surrounded by trash, and her ex-boyfriend.

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And, she's back.
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SuicideBear said:
June "Socialist Libertarian" "Redistribute the wealth" "Cease the means of production, comrade" Laporta quite literally encourages you to money buy your way into power.
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Using money for power might be discouraged by Communist doctrines, but it's what they do anyway. Why you think Chavez had so much support? In this case, he gave people money to be in power. He was practically giving leftist politicians mod powers in S. America and the Caribbean.

So yeah, this is very commie of her.
 
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shortfatotaku said:
it took her hours to get back online because twitter was no longer accepting her phone number. i told her to get a friend's phone and use that and she immediately got her account back. i don't know how she didn't think of it herself, lol
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Feel like they don't ban phone numbers that easily, wonder what she was up to given her main doesn't seem to ever post anything controversial.
 
shortfatotaku said:
it took her hours to get back online because twitter was no longer accepting her phone number. i told her to get a friend's phone and use that and she immediately got her account back. i don't know how she didn't think of it herself, lol
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Not to sound mean, but she probably doesn't have any friends who's phone she could borrow.
Bad Take Crucifier said:
I 100% support this. Maybe we can start a collab thread, honestly "former skeptic" and "failed skeptic" is it's own stereotype at this point. For example, look at TJ Kirk, the fuck happened there?
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It's like people who make their name off of picking low hanging fruit aren't exactly the best put together. There's also the factor that when the skeptics were big most of us were either children or teenagers and as we grew up we realized e-celebs were retarded.
 
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Meriasek said:
More "x is real" stuff, this time ghosts. I guess "Ghosts are fake" is coming in a few days?
After going off Twitter, how is Preggory going to keep his lolcow status?
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Is the Troon chaser losing weight?
Despite his cow traits, he really seems like the winner here over June.
Making content intended to engage with his audience in abstract topics and disengage from reality is much better than spending your days on twitter sucking up to half your audience and being afraid of the backlash of the other half of your audience.
Poorman's Metokur > Poorman's Boxxy anyday, especially when Boxxy today is a nut job idpol extremist herself.
But that makes me wonder, what can June even talk about that isn't middle-school tier political discussion or chasing low hanging fruit?
She has no hobbies or interests outside of pretending twitter is high school therefore has nothing to make videos about.
Is she going to talk about her high school days? No one cares what a teenage wop in 2006-10 did in high school.
Makeup? The scene girl look is over except in places like Russia where even Limp Bizkit is still popular and relevant.
Relationship advice? LOL.
Wigs?
Burd Turglar said:
If she just took basic care of herself and got a job as a bartender, she would probably crush it.
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There's no way June's bald ass is the top barkeep in a fairly popular pub against 18-25yos paying for college or simply getting by, unless she takes guys to the back where they can take her from the back.

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So I can shit on her mother's face, key her car, smash up a mosque, all as a protest to the death of joggers who saw the business end of a Beretta, and she can't be even remotely mad about it?
 
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Tasty Tatty said:
Pewdiepie has always been to exception, not the rule. People don't buy merch because it's good, but to support creators, and in Pewdiepie's case, he cares enough to offer his fans the best possible quality in both production and design so it's also good and worth their money.

Shoe's merch is the same as most YouTubers', it looks like they made it with Word Art and then call it a day.
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I'm about a page late, but a majority of appeal that more popular channels (Let's Players, e.g. Pewpewdie, Grumps, Markiplier, etc) have in their merch is that it represents a community of people, usually which solidifies them into an identity. Children tend to buy more of it because it helps them connect more personally on the social side of content consumption. They represent their favorite creators with a symbol, a t-shirt design, a character, an in-joke, etc, and it shows that they've internalized it as part of their identity.

It's like a band t-shirt.

Political youtubers tend to lack that kind of appeal, because they don't have much of an actual community which breeds that kind of identity. Sometimes they get around that by using it as an opportunity to promote political art or ideas which they've created, representing a wider political idea which your audience may want to wear in support.

Shoe doesn't have much of a community, and Shoe's merch is pretty suboptimal in this sense. Most of it is very generic Word Art shit I'd expect to see in an actual clothes store. It doesn't scream "Shoe0nHead", it screams the basic bitch uwu pickme aesthetic Shoe gives off.

Oh yeah, and there's that one which literally represents her, which is bad, and her community isn't strong enough to support it.
 
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Bad Take Crucifier said:
I 100% support this. Maybe we can start a collab thread, honestly "former skeptic" and "failed skeptic" is it's own stereotype at this point. For example, look at TJ Kirk, the fuck happened there?
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AronRa is another good candidate. Thunderfoot to an extent, though he largely learned his lesson and stuck to science vids IIRC. Saturnine Films is now some meth-addicted photographer.
The whole atheist/skeptic scene from 2009-2011 turned into gigantic lolcows after Atheism+ and its assorted controversies.
 
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Moon Pigeon said:
I'm about a page late, but a majority of appeal that more popular channels (Let's Players, e.g. Pewpewdie, Grumps, Markiplier, etc) have in their merch is that it represents a community of people, usually which solidifies them into an identity. Children tend to buy more of it because it helps them connect more personally on the social side of content consumption. They represent their favorite creators with a symbol, a t-shirt design, a character, an in-joke, etc, and it shows that they've internalized it as part of their identity.

It's like a band t-shirt.

Political youtubers tend to lack that kind of appeal, because they don't have much of an actual community which breeds that kind of identity. Sometimes they get around that by using it as an opportunity to promote political art or ideas which they've created, representing a wider political idea which your audience may want to wear in support.

Shoe doesn't have much of a community, and Shoe's merch is pretty suboptimal in this sense. Most of it is very generic Word Art shit I'd expect to see in an actual clothes store. It doesn't scream "Shoe0nHead", it screams the basic bitch uwu pickme aesthetic Shoe gives off.

Oh yeah, and there's that one which literally represents her, which is bad, and her community isn't strong enough to support it.
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I also think with Let's Players there's just this whole aura of positivity around them since they stick to fun stuff like video games rather than something infuriating like politics. Shoe, and political youtubers in general, stick to getting angry 24/7 about some random shit which people aren't going to want to buy merch to remind them of.

Greg, at this rate, has a better chance of people wanting to buy merch relating to him and/or cryptids than Shoe with her lame duck persona.
 
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SBG said:
I also think with Let's Players there's just this whole aura of positivity around them since they stick to fun stuff like video games rather than something infuriating like politics. Shoe, and political youtubers in general, stick to getting angry 24/7 about some random shit which people aren't going to want to buy merch to remind them of.

Greg, at this rate, has a better chance of people wanting to buy merch relating to him and/or cryptids than Shoe with her lame duck persona.
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Let's Players support themselves with the community of gamers, people who like video games an art form and the general community around that.
Because of the culture of video games (there are games and game series and game references that basically everyone in that community knows), the identity which forms around liking Let's Players is created with that as its foundation. A lot of times merch ends up based around video game culture as well, though that can sometimes border on being the generic schlock that I pointed out in Shoe's merch.

Politics is inherently divisive, and thusly breeds division. Video games are inherently inclusive, and thusly breed unity.

Greg is doing better at building a community in spite of his retardation by taking steps away from politics in his major online presence. Shoe is doing the opposite.

Being an online community discussing politics creates an inherently turbulent environment, where you don't want to identify too closely with any ideology or person as a personal element of your identity. If you do, you have several issues that end up making themselves known in real life, and end up having a whole host of problems from obvious cultlike behavior. It's like religion, but it doesn't encourage you to do anything good. It's serious discussion, that relates directly to the real world, therefore it's kind of important that you actually take the time to think about it, rather than just internalizing something as a part of your identity.

Communities based around gaming don't have any of this baggage because they're just playing in fictional worlds and doing fictional things to fictional people. Obviously it's trouble when it starts being applied to the real world, but the issue with politics is that it's inherently dealing with the real world, so it has to be applied to the real world.

And thusly, people are less likely to just join the community and internalize it as a part of themselves, and thusly, merch is less profitable unless it says something politically.

They're two completely different animals of online content. The only real middle ground I could see in that is with podcasting shit like Joe Rogan, where the community you get from it is "these are just guys talking, and you're basically hanging out with them". Even if what they talk about is divisive and people happen to be hostile about it, the environment is balanced and relaxed (mostly), so people might find it easier to not only enjoy the content, but be willing to say they're a fan of the creator and platform, and so they might be more willing to support it by buying merchandise and taking it as a community they kinda sorta identify with.
 
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