Trashfire Adam Kovic & Ryan Haywood (The Dead Pixel / Koko / Pikovic, and James Ryan Haywoood / Iron Ryan / The Mad King / Vagabond) - Rooster Teeth associates who've sent horrifying nudes behind their families' backs in what looks like a gay catfish

How many accusers will there be by the 23rd?

  • 9

    Votes: 5 0.7%
  • 10 ~ 12

    Votes: 91 12.0%
  • 13 ~ 15

    Votes: 273 36.0%
  • 16 ~ 18

    Votes: 185 24.4%
  • 19 or 20

    Votes: 44 5.8%
  • More than 20

    Votes: 161 21.2%

  • Total voters
    759
  • Poll closed .
And she is a pronouner. I have never watched Ray's Twitch so maybe he has changed over the years but I can't imagine somebody like her enjoying his old AH sense of humor. Ray was somebody they had to censor a lot because of his jokes.
She's not that bad. Yeah she's kind of SJW but it's pretty tame, they get along really well. I think she may have been an AH fan before, I recall her posting a photo of the first time they met and it looked like it was at a con.

Ray's calmed down a bit, his humor isn't that offensive anymore. I wonder if his humor is affected by the people he's around. Like, the AH guys could get pretty offensive so maybe he made similar jokes because that's what fit the situation. I get the impression that a lot of Ray and Tina's current friends are LGBT/LGBT-friendly and leftwing so maybe that's why now his jokes are softer.

Of course it could just be an age thing. He's 31 now and while he might still be a manchild who plays videos games all day, his humor has probably matured to be less edgy and shocking.
 
call me retarded but i think if you're over the age of 20 the only power imbalance you can experience is if your boss makes a move on you and threatens to fire you if you don't give him the sloppy toppy at work or something. willingly seeking out internet video game youtube men you have a hard on for and consensually dirty sexting them isn't manipulation it's just... straight up a choice you made.

these women reek of "i've never faced the consequences of my actions so i have to justify to myself why i did this because i can't possibly ever be in the wrong". geoff's still geoff in my book, this changes nothing. he might've gotten cucked but i can't fault him for that.
it's been mentioned before, but it would be interesting to see how all these people would react if the situation was flipped. for the sake of argument, say lindsay had been sexting/fucking dude fans for a while. all fat mentally ill losers, too. i get the feeling the opinion from these people would be more "lindsay was pressured into it by xyz factors" and "they sent unsolicited dick pics to lindsay, it's not her fault" and very little mention of power imbalances or whatever. there'd definitely be a lot more supporters of hypothetical-lindsay and more people casting doubt on the accusers. not to say i'm defending ryan or anything, more agreeing with how transparent some of the justifications these women give are.

And she is a pronouner. I have never watched Ray's Twitch so maybe he has changed over the years but I can't imagine somebody like her enjoying his old AH sense of humor. Ray was somebody they had to censor a lot because of his jokes.
they met back way back in 2012 and started dating 2014 i think, she probably did enjoy his sense of humour. which to be fair, was never that offensive - for the most part it was just puns, references and inside jokes to shit. other than that, it was the usual crude sense of humor which worked better than most cause he had great timing.

he did like calling people cunts and retards a lot and definitely started using those more frequently after retarded cunts like feministroosterteeth kicked up a fuss. same with faggot, but i'm sure he started phasing that out of his vocab.
 
lot more power imbalances than just between a boss and an employee. Straight up there's physical/rape which is a massive power imbalance that you can experience.
i'm not saying some of them weren't victims of sexual assault, the choking without consent and taking the condom off shit is definitely reprehensible. but this isn't a situation where it's a student preyed upon by a college professor where they feel helpless and forced to play along with it for the sake of their grades or something. this is a situation where it's 2 consenting (at the time) adults. ryan and geoff aren't some international pop idols or government officials that can sway things in their favor. they're fucking minecraft youtubers.

again, a lot of these women were manipulated into this at first and i can't fault someone for being manipulated. but after the first time he makes you bleed, the least you can do is.. not go back? plus you can't say you feel trapped when most of them lived states away AND had the dirt to end their careers. you can't say you're a lamb to the slaughter when you're going there willingly.

if they came forward after the initial experience, no one would question it and they'd have the full support of the internet. they'd be victims through and through. hell, i wouldn't have shit to say if that was the case but they kept going back. they're either extremely unwell mentally or ryan haywood's Virgin Breaker 5000 didn't bother them at the time. like, yeah it sucks, but you're an adult. sometimes you make choices that suck. and you just have to live with it.
 
She's not that bad. Yeah she's kind of SJW but it's pretty tame, they get along really well. I think she may have been an AH fan before, I recall her posting a photo of the first time they met and it looked like it was at a con.
I swear one of the RT wives was a game tester at some company; the absolute epitome of "I wanna be in gaming without an education". Think it was Lawrence's fat slob?

In general I just find it hilarious that all the wives of RT end up wearing winged glasses, have neon hair, get 1-2 lazy roles in RWBY and then go on to talk about LGBT on a podcast.

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Projared anyone? The exact audience that both RT and GameGrumps groom; fat, ugly tumblrinas without a father figure, are the exact people who enjoy homewrecking for clout from a Twitter profile with 59 followers. They would exactly fucking lie about everything because they can say "well I didn't like him hugging me" and suffer no jail time.
 
it's been mentioned before, but it would be interesting to see how all these people would react if the situation was flipped. for the sake of argument, say lindsay had been sexting/fucking dude fans for a while. all fat mentally ill losers, too. i get the feeling the opinion from these people would be more "lindsay was pressured into it by xyz factors" and "they sent unsolicited dick pics to lindsay, it's not her fault" and very little mention of power imbalances or whatever. there'd definitely be a lot more supporters of hypothetical-lindsay and more people casting doubt on the accusers. not to say i'm defending ryan or anything, more agreeing with how transparent some of the justifications these women give are.
You don't even need to wonder how it would be in reverse if it were legitimate reversal power imbalance rape, the judge in the Mary Kay Letourneau case (American teacher who at 38 was caught fucking her 12 year old student) point blank said that males are 'lesser victims' than females, which is why she only got 3 months in jail. Was originally 6 months but he suspended even that by another 3 months.
 
You don't even need to wonder how it would be in reverse if it were legitimate reversal power imbalance rape, the judge in the Mary Kay Letourneau case (American teacher who at 38 was caught fucking her 12 year old student) point blank said that males are 'lesser victims' than females, which is why she only got 3 months in jail. Was originally 6 months but he suspended even that by another 3 months.
I think it's wierd for women to want equal treatment but they enjoy being made a out to be these helpless victims that need to be coddled like they are literal infants.

Because in reality they don't want equal treatment. They want to be treated above and beyond and never be held accountable for their own deplorable behavior. It's so easy and convenient to sit there and say you're a strong, independant woman to flipping a switch and becoming this make believe victim the second a suspicious eye is on them. If women want equal treatment, they should also be okay with getting the same punishments too.

That's a topic for another thread though. I'll leave it at that.
 
You don't even need to wonder how it would be in reverse if it were legitimate reversal power imbalance rape, the judge in the Mary Kay Letourneau case (American teacher who at 38 was caught fucking her 12 year old student) point blank said that males are 'lesser victims' than females, which is why she only got 3 months in jail. Was originally 6 months but he suspended even that by another 3 months.
Oh it gets so much better than that. She got out of jail and immediately sought him out and got pregnant again. Judge was rightfully pissed and gave her the maximum sentence, which was 8 years or some shit. She got out and they ended up getting married. Last year they got divorced and the kid, now 30 something, admitted "it was never a healthy relationship." She actually died a few months ago from ass cancer.
 
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I wonder if the Ryan body pillow is heavily discounted now. In all seriousness, I don't think Geoff is anywhere on the same level as Ryan. Dumb as a brick with a dick? Sure. But I really don't think he was maliciously using his position to prey on people who worship him (maybe that makes me dumb as a brick too lol). I just thought the timing of the ad was hilariously bad.
 
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Of course there are other power imbalances than just employer/employee though, I don't think he was suggesting otherwise. Being an e-celeb is 100% not a power imbalance though

An E-celeb with tons of adoring fans and money vs. a young nobody is absolutely a power imbalance. And power imbalances can lead to abuse because it fosters silence if the powerful one does assault the young nobody, like Kevin Spacey or Bill Cosby; who wants to speak up if they think no one will believe him, his fans/money/image will protect him, etc.

But exactly as Devyn here said, the power imbalance is what attracted most of women to him in the first place. If these women care so much about 'power imbalance', that itself should've been a red flag to them back then. That and how he licked that cupcake. Any man who eats a cupcake like that should be locked up.

I think it's wierd for women to want equal treatment but they enjoy being made a out to be these helpless victims that need to be coddled like they are literal infants.

Gustav here said it and I mentioned it previously, that it's the woke version of the virgin/whore dichotomy: the 'empowered sex-positive boss babe'/'helpless victim' dichotomy. You're one or the other. They have no other paradigm for understanding what happened to them.

#10 said "‌I‌ ‌know‌ ‌my‌ ‌actions‌ ‌were‌ ‌wrong,‌ ‌but‌ ‌they‌ ‌were‌ ‌also‌ ‌inevitable.‌" I've seen these women using and retweeting the analogy that they were like passengers in a taxi who were driven to a dark alley, beaten and robbed - can't blame them for getting in the car!

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That was also retweeted by the VictimsofRyanHaywood account. As if they were all helpless passengers along for the ride.

It's more like: if a taxi says it's occupied and still stops for you, and it's not really a taxi but some badly ageing guy in a rusty old nissan altima that's been hastily painted yellow, and he needs you to press the gas pedal while he steers, with all the doors unlocked so you can get out any time you like, and together you drive to a dark alley where he beats up your vagina... then yes, you may be a bit at fault there.
 
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Gustav here said it and I mentioned it previously, that it's the woke version of the virgin/whore complex: the 'empowered sex-positive boss babe'/'helpless victim' complex. You're one or the other. They have no other paradigm for understanding what happened to them.

#10 said "‌I‌ ‌know‌ ‌my‌ ‌actions‌ ‌were‌ ‌wrong,‌ ‌but‌ ‌they‌ ‌were‌ ‌also‌ ‌inevitable.‌" I've seen these women using and retweeting the analogy that they were like passengers in a taxi who were driven to a dark alley, beaten and robbed - can't blame them for getting in the car!

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That was also retweeted by the VictimsofRyanHaywood account. As if they were all helpless passengers along for the ride.

It's more like: if a taxi says it's occupied and still stops for you, and it's not really a taxi but some badly ageing guy in a rusty old nissan altima that's been hastily painted yellow, and he needs you to press the gas pedal while he steers, and together you drive to a dark alley where he beats up your vagina... then yes, you may be a bit at fault there.
Well, I do know some have openly admitted to being and acting like starstruck groupies.
 
Being an e-celeb is 100% not a power imbalance though
Ryan haywood specifically targeted mentally ill women, preferably young and inexperienced, usually unattractive, precisely because this would give him an upper hand in terms of manipulation and control. You really dont see how this could be a power imbalance?
 
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I wonder if the Ryan body pillow is heavily discounted now. In all seriousness, I don't think Geoff is anywhere on the same level as Ryan. Dumb as a brick with a dick? Sure. But I really don't think he was maliciously using his position to prey on people who worship him (maybe that makes me dumb as a brick too lol). I just thought the timing of the ad was hilariously bad.
This kind of shit man, goddamn body pillows of the cast, promoting pervy fanfic about themselves, the touchiest feeliest fan meet ups I’ve ever seen.. and they wonder why there’s no boundaries between them and fans?

reap what you sow.
 
Well, I do know some have openly admitted to being and acting like starstruck groupies.

Then they're not victims. Pick one.

A lot of what the women say is just what they think people want to hear so people don't criticize them. For example, #12 was the most apologetic saying she'll have to live with the guilt and shame and consequences forever, she's barely eating and sleeping, she's so sorry to everyone, that she's a piece of shit and a worthless cunt (her words), etc. etc. lo and behold, she actually posted about it a week ago saying she feels no guilt at all about it or for cheating on her boyfriend, and she hopes he leaves his wife for her. #13 admits she willingly participated, yet says she "fell into it" "accidentally". She was cheating on her fiancé. Just a little oopsie.

It's just a ploy for pity and reassurance. "I'm such a horrible piece of shit!" "aw no you aren't girl! You're a victim! You didn't do anything wrong - you are loved, you are valid xoxo <3"
 
Ryan haywood specifically targeted mentally ill women, preferably young and inexperienced, usually unattractive, precisely because this would give him an upper hand in terms of manipulation and control. You really dont see how this could be a power imbalance?
A good question to ask one self is whether these encounters would have happened without Ryan being an “e-celeb”. Did Ryan take advantage of the fact that they were fans ? Was he using his position within their “community” to be reprehensible without any punishment ?

To me the answer is yes, clearly his actions were wrong. He further attempted to guilt some of the women to not revealing their interactions, which demonstrates his knowledge of his power within the relationship. Some of the women here did this for attention and knew they were hurting his wife and children and didn’t care. But, two wrongs never make a right. Ryan is a piece of shit and I don’t know why companies like this don’t make it clear from day 1, don’t fuck the fans. Maybe it has something to do with the founder not seeing anything with it initially and doing it himself.
 
Ryan haywood specifically targeted mentally ill women, preferably young and inexperienced, usually unattractive, precisely because this would give him an upper hand in terms of manipulation and control. You really dont see how this could be a power imbalance?
Who the fuck cares?

The only victims here are his wife and kids and the underaged girl he fucked.

You don’t get to have consenting sex, regret it later, and call rape and/or manipulation.

Millions of girls fuck their idols; actors, musicians, artists, etc. “Power imbalance” implies that he can DO something with that power and the implied threat of him doing something is what got him sex. That’s not what happened here. These women went to him first. All of them went to him first through cons or Snapchat. Sent him nudes. They crossed hundreds of miles to get sex. At any point they could have stopped. It’s not like they worked under him or for him or in anyway had him in control of their life.

They continue to use the “we didn’t know we weren’t the only one boo hoo”. Like what? He was cheating on his wife with you. You expected him to be honest??

Outside of the underaged girl, these women just got played. And now they regret that the ONE THING that made them special doesn’t actually exist.

The choking thing is questionable. But why did she continue to go back to him for sex if it scared her so bad? The taking off the condom mid-sex is a shitty thing to do but they clearly saw it happening and, as adults, they need to speak up for themselves. They aren’t mentally damaged or mentally ill... they’re groupies who regret their decision and association to a man who fiddled a 17 year old. They are trying to distance themself from him in any way they can... and make believe stories of abuse and manipulation is a hot snowflake button now.

These stories are funny. Laugh at them. Get mad if you want. But these girls aren’t “victims” of anything but bad life choices.
 
Ryan haywood specifically targeted mentally ill women, preferably young and inexperienced, usually unattractive, precisely because this would give him an upper hand in terms of manipulation and control. You really dont see how this could be a power imbalance?

Honestly, I'm not sure anymore that Ryan was being choosy at all. It's starting to seem like he chased anything vaguely female-shaped that came his way. It just so happens that mentally ill, overweight, unattractive, naive virgins were the only ones into him. After all, his wife is none of those things and she stopped sleeping with him.
 
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