Orbiter Ashton Joel Parks / People's Populist Press / PPP - Ethan Ralph and Nicholas J Fuentes' professional a-log, fat, churchless, starfish exhibitionist and abortionist, has a diet of potato chips and allegedly killed a cat, he is FATTTTT. 🕯️🐱🕯️

[Captain Manning]

The tea clips stuff just felt petty to me. She stopped clipping his content the second he bitched about it, and before he bitched about it they were asking her to host their content. He only got mad IIRC when she started clipping his shit and slightly criticizing him, then suddenly money was a problem. Who he vehemently hates (toad, jim, ralph) vs who he is/was nice and friendly to (kraut, tea clips for a time, mundane "turn off the pesky adblock" matt) is based on personal reasons only and then justified by pointing to the fact that they make money on the internet.

Its that pattern I don't like. Not that he's autistic about money, but that he's autistic about money only when it gives him an excuse to attack someone. His principles and ethics are applied with no consistency or fairness. He attacks people off of a personal dislike of them and then acts like its about some real issue he cares about. Sure you can call it a bit or keyfabe or whatever, but its all the same fake and gay shit that made me dislike everyone else on the board.

I dunno. I think he's not wrong with respect to Tea Clips, but what you're saying here certainly comports with what I'm saying about him bringing up money an awful lot. It is true it's always directed towards somebody he doesn't like. It might be that he's accidently right this time.

In any event, I maintain the most autistic thing PPP has done lately is claiming Jim killed Terry (ala Sargon). That's way more petty. I kinda get his argument with respect to Tea Clips, and his counterargument to Matt regarding the Rock was spot on. I think these three points were in the same stream, so I'll give him 2/3.

 

[Bob Barker]

He say he doesnt like monetized videos, PPP has his own paypal, Kraut's videos arent monetized either, tea clip and jarbo do. I guess its kind an autistic distinction on PPP's part, but thats his reasoning.

Thats the sort of reasoning ralph uses to say how him militantly copyright striking fair use content is not flagging but matt TOS flagging TOS violating content is flagging and evil.

Its autistic e-celeb weaseling. Kraut has not one, not 2, but 3 ebegging links in the descriptions of all his videos. Kraut's content changed completely to appeal to a new audience because kraut was too pathetic to get a job. He gave up on everything he wanted to do as a youtuber to pursue a totally different type of content because he wanted to do youtube as a career. PPP grifted $700 on dlive under the guise of "lets own ralph by out ebegging him," a move that even ethan ralph was in his rights to call pathetic and laugh off.

Matt works like 2 jobs and puts ads on some of his videos he makes for fun because extra cash helps. Tea clips has probably made less in ads and superchats this year than PPP made in 1 stream.

Its bullcrap to call them worse grifters, and any convoluted definition that says they are is just mental gymnastics.

Just fucking install adblock.

 

[anuscabbage12]

Matt works like 2 jobs and puts ads on some of his videos he makes for fun because extra cash helps. Tea clips has probably made less in ads and superchats this year than PPP made in 1 stream.

Also with tea clips it was taking his video against monetization, and uploading it to her channel with monetization, which he said "people with think im a hypocrite, because they wont recognize that its not my channel".

yeah I mean its a retarded distinction, the tea clips thing i guess was more personal due to the above, whole thing seems autistic. I guess if people are grifting its an issue, if they are pretending to be one thing for money.

youtubers that use it as a career are retarded faggots, as it tends to degrade the content, see Jim, it devolved into 30 minutes of content and 2 hours of reading super chats. Same thing with nick, its 2 hours of reading superchats, it also makes people lazy and enables them, see spoony

 

[Bob Barker]

yeah I mean its a retarded distinction, the tea clips thing i guess was more personal due to the above, whole thing seems autistic. I guess if people are grifting its an issue, if they are pretending to be one thing for money. youtubers that use it as a career are retarded faggots, as it tends to degrade the content, see Jim, it devolved into 30 minutes of content and 2 hours of reading super chats. Same thing with nick, its 2 hours of reading superchats

Jim's streams were never mostly superchats, but thats besides the point.

The point is, if you hate this concept of "youtuber who sees it as a career, changes their content away from what they are passionate about to something more popular, begs for money constantly," you hate kraut. Matt is like the opposite of that, Jim does whatever the fuck he wants and still gets paid, tea clips would have to be totally retarded to see her channel as a career. Even fucking ralph has shown more willingness to put his money stream at risk in order to do what he wants than kraut.

He doesn't care about grifting at all.

 

[anuscabbage12]

Jim's streams were never mostly superchats, but thats besides the point.

The point is, if you hate this concept of "youtuber who sees it as a career, changes their content away from what they are passionate about to something more popular, begs for money constantly," you hate kraut. Matt is like the opposite of that, Jim does whatever the fuck he wants and still gets paid, tea clips would have to be totally retarded to see her channel as a career. Even fucking ralph has shown more willingness to put his money stream at risk in order to do what he wants than kraut.

He doesn't care about grifting at all.

Yeah them guntguarding for kraut is gay. Jim's streams are kind of the point, as an example of why using youtube as a career is retarded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzHz7h1LnWE
here's one of jim's latest streams, over half of it is reading superchats. starting around 1:21:58 is the Superchats. Also how lazy he became since he started. This trend can be seen with most if not all the people who use youtube as a career, Spoony being the prime example

 

[Love Machine]

Does no one no what the meaning of sellout is? Fuck you people are dumb sometimes.

 

[Moist Unguentine]

PPP doesn't take anything on the internet seriously, except maybe getting back at Ralph. It's all role-play for him because he's a showoff and he enjoys making videos featuring himself being controversial. He's probably still laughing at people taking the Tea Clips thing seriously.

 

[instythot]

yeah I mean its a retarded distinction, the tea clips thing i guess was more personal due to the above, whole thing seems autistic. I guess if people are grifting its an issue, if they are pretending to be one thing for money.

youtubers that use it as a career are retarded faggots, as it tends to degrade the content, see Jim, it devolved into 30 minutes of content and 2 hours of reading super chats. Same thing with nick, its 2 hours of reading superchats, it also makes people lazy and enables them, see spoony

The tea clips thing I can get behind. Ashton puts his stuff out there for free, she copies and pastes, adds nothing, creates nothing and monetizes it. He has a strong argument for her parasitery. Imagine that you went and mowed your neighbor's lawn for free, and the kid down the street went and collected money you never charged and pocketed it.

Aside from every instance of "I'm fucking mad because you called me a pedophile" this might be the most legitimate reason for someone in bloodsports to be upset with another. And yet, he doesn't flag her videos down

 

[High Tea]

The tea clips thing I can get behind. Ashton puts his stuff out there for free, she copies and pastes, adds nothing, creates nothing and monetizes it. He has a strong argument for her parasitery. Imagine that you went and mowed your neighbor's lawn for free, and the kid down the street went and collected money you never charged and pocketed it.

Aside from every instance of "I'm fucking mad because you called me a pedophile" this might be the most legitimate reason for someone in bloodsports to be upset with another. And yet, he doesn't flag her videos down

And then add in instead of being just archival clipping channels like during ibs, there are alliances, friendships, requests to make content, etc. How do you know you aren't being asked to do things only to give clipping channels content, which they then monetize? It makes you long for the days when channels like Swedish Mate and the others were around.

 

[Dubious Dubu]

I think the difference between selling out/grifting and general monetizing is if you make that your career. There are exceptions where people blow up big enough to where it is a genuine high paying job like Rogan or even H3H3. But the people that insist that they are entitled to have an e-career and beg for money and whine about monetization are grifters. Putting a PayPal button or some sort of tip jar as fine for beer money, video games, or whatever. The reality is though that 99.999999% of YouTube/Twitch/etc "careers" are not real jobs and no one is entitled to this easy path. You have no employee rights and the rug can be pulled away from you at any time. It is irresponsible to insist that you must live this "career" path, especially those who have children and grift.
edited for some grammar

 

[Trig.Point]

The tea clips stuff just felt petty to me. She stopped clipping his content the second he bitched about it, and before he bitched about it they were asking her to host their content. He only got mad IIRC when she started clipping his shit and slightly criticizing him, then suddenly money was a problem. Who he vehemently hates (toad, jim, ralph) vs who he is/was nice and friendly to (kraut, tea clips for a time, mundane "turn off the pesky adblock" matt) is based on personal reasons only and then justified by pointing to the fact that they make money on the internet.

Its that pattern I don't like. Not that he's autistic about money, but that he's autistic about money only when it gives him an excuse to attack someone. His principles and ethics are applied with no consistency or fairness. He attacks people off of a personal dislike of them and then acts like its about some real issue he cares about. Sure you can call it a bit or keyfabe or whatever, but its all the same fake and gay shit that made me dislike everyone else on the board.

Clipping Channels are useful to streamers, and it's dumb for people to follow Ralph's example of attacking friendly ones that gave him an audience he wouldn't otherwise have. Most people aren't going to sit through some rambling multi hour stream waiting for some nugget of decent content to appear.

 

[Bob Barker]

The tea clips thing I can get behind. Ashton puts his stuff out there for free, she copies and pastes, adds nothing, creates nothing and monetizes it. He has a strong argument for her parasitery. Imagine that you went and mowed your neighbor's lawn for free, and the kid down the street went and collected money you never charged and pocketed it.

Aside from every instance of "I'm fucking mad because you called me a pedophile" this might be the most legitimate reason for someone in bloodsports to be upset with another. And yet, he doesn't flag her videos down

If it was such a parasitic relationship, why did godwinson ask her host his videos multiple times?

 

[Dubious Dubu]

Clipping Channels are useful to streamers, and it's dumb for people to follow Ralph's example of attacking friendly ones that gave him an audience he wouldn't otherwise have. Most people aren't going to sit through some rambling multi hour stream waiting for some nugget of decent content to appear.

Ralph should get Gator to just silently clip as the stream is live, similar to Jamie(?) on Joe Rogan. Surfer can do it for PPP. Godwinson can schizo clip his own streams live.

 

[4str4staleatherbelt]

If it was such a parasitic relationship, why did godwinson ask her host his videos multiple times?

She has a large (Xtra Large?) platform. Maybe he didn't have a channel at the time? Probably the platform. Was the monetized by any chance?

 

[Bob Barker]

She has a large (Xtra Large?) platform. Maybe he didn't have a channel at the time? Probably the platform.

Thats the point. Her platform helps the people she clips. They were fine with her using that platform to help them right up to the point she slightly criticized them, then suddenly it was calling her a parasite. Its no different from when ralph got mad at her over not clipping what he wanted her to.

 

[4str4staleatherbelt]

I feel it's pretty clear neither 3P or Godwinson ever liked her to begin with and always saw her as a cloutchaser. Both just used her to get at Ralph, which is what they had been doing to other people they've now "turned" on at the time.

 

[instythot]

If it was such a parasitic relationship, why did godwinson ask her host his videos multiple times?

You mean the videos they began by attacking her as offering nothing original?

I dunno man, people aren't born with all of their thoughts and opinions firmly in place. They develop over time

 

[Bob Barker]

I dunno man, people aren't born with all of their thoughts and opinions firmly in place. They develop over time

Yeah, they "develop" suddenly when someone doesn't go an e-celeb's way.

Say what you want about people who run clipping channels, whatever. How "parasitic" derivative content is is subjective and you can draw the line wherever you choose. Same with choosing where accepting donations becomes grifting, or making fun of someone becomes harassment. But when an e-celeb is friendly with someone and then that person steps out of line and suddenly the e-celeb has issues with their past actions, that e-celeb is being a faggot.

 

[instythot]

Yeah, they "develop" suddenly when someone doesn't go an e-celeb's way.

Say what you want about people who run clipping channels, whatever. How "parasitic" derivative content is is subjective and you can draw the line wherever you choose. Same with choosing where accepting donations becomes grifting, or making fun of someone becomes harassment. But when an e-celeb is friendly with someone and then that person steps out of line and suddenly the e-celeb has issues with their past actions, that e-celeb is being a faggot.

Well all e-celebs are faggots. I just like the entertaining ones

Edit: clarity - we watch this stuff because of the drama that is generated for no good reason. To complain that drama is being generated for no good reason? Why even keep an eye on this stuff at all?

 

[Moist Unguentine]

Well all e-celebs are faggots. I just like the entertaining ones

Edit: clarity - we watch this stuff because of the drama that is generated for no good reason. To complain that drama is being generated for no good reason? Why even keep an eye on this stuff at all?

Exactly. PPP is generating the drama the spergs all crave, for no good reason other than it's entertaining. PPP doing his routine on Matt was pointless arguing which both seemed to enjoy seeing how long it went on. PPP was so outrageous that Matt can comfortably claim victory while PPP fans can laugh at how Matt got btfo.