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"Death to Free Speech?" These people are a parody of themselves.
"HAHHAHAH get it why take our actual extreme positions and say them as an ironic joke so you can't criticize us!!" Isn't this the same tacit they constantly whine about the alt right doing? I guess its okay when your using it to justify your inane moral crusade.
 
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Because nobody takes them seriously (not even other Communists) and they can't create an organized society that lasts long outside of very small agriculture communities.
Anarcho-communists and anarchists in general are some of the dumbest people, I don't know why they follow an ideology that's doomed to fail shortly after it's implemented, they love to mention the anarchists of the Ukraine during the russian civil war or the Catalunians from the Spanish one as cases where anarchism and anarcho-communism actually worked but of course they forget to mention all the executions, rapes and corruption that plagued their leadership, but what they always seem to ignore is that in both cases they were obliterated without achieving much, in Spain they were defeated by the nationalists and in Russia they were betrayed by the Soviets order 66 style shortly after the war ended.
In general anarchy and all of it's diferent types is doomed to fail and only works in fantasy or in Kaiserreich, actually, come to think about it, maybe that's why the Kaiserreich community is filled with unironic anarchists, it's the only place outside of their heads that anarchism works and is actually capable of defeat their enemies.
 
Anarcho-communists and anarchists in general are some of the dumbest people, I don't know why they follow an ideology that's doomed to fail shortly after it's implemented, they love to mention the anarchists of the Ukraine during the russian civil war or the Catalunians from the Spanish one as cases where anarchism and anarcho-communism actually worked but of course they forget to mention all the executions, rapes and corruption that plagued their leadership, but what they always seem to ignore is that in both cases they were obliterated without achieving much, in Spain they were defeated by the nationalists and in Russia they were betrayed by the Soviets order 66 style shortly after the war ended.
In general anarchy and all of it's diferent types is doomed to fail and only works in fantasy or in Kaiserreich, actually, come to think about it, maybe that's why the Kaiserreich community is filled with unironic anarchists, it's the only place outside of their heads that anarchism works and is actually capable of defeat their enemies.
If you mention the reality of human nature to some dedicated Ancoms they'll likely deflect and assert you simply haven't read up on enough Marx. Not unlike a religious group suggesting you read their "sacred texts" as a way to deflect the obvious flaws in their reasoning.

Either that or they'll point to things like open-source and assert that it's an infallible example that the whole world can abide by the same process for production with no massive repercussions.
 
in Spain they were defeated by the nationalists and in Russia they were betrayed by the Soviets order 66 style shortly after the war ended.
It's even worse than that lol. In Spain the Anarchist areas got put down by the Soviets at the same time as the Soviets were getting reamed by Franco's Nationalists. They lost to other losers. They can't even claim to have been shut down by the winning side.
 
If you mention the reality of human nature to some dedicated Ancoms they'll likely deflect and assert you simply haven't read up on enough Marx. Not unlike a religious group suggesting you read their "sacred texts" as a way to deflect the obvious flaws in their reasoning.

Either that or they'll point to things like open-source and assert that it's an infallible example that the whole world can abide by the same process for production with no massive repercussions.
I thought Bakunin was the ancom and not Marx.
 
I thought Bakunin was the ancom and not Marx.
I thought it was Kropotkin. Every free shit loving douchebag commie who whines about how horrible and unnatural it is that they're expected to work for anything seems to have a massive hardon for Kropotkin.

If Marx was alive today, many of these people would call him a Nazbol and cancel him.
 
I thought it was Kropotkin. Every free shit loving douchebag commie who whines about how horrible and unnatural it is that they're expected to work for anything seems to have a massive hardon for Kropotkin.

If Marx was alive today, many of these people would call him a Nazbol and cancel him.
Bakunin is considered the father of Anarchism but he certainly wasn't an ancom or Marxist in the way we think about that today. He argued with Marx's ideas so much that he was eventually kicked out of the International for what amounted to a charge of sedition against Communism. I'd say those antiwork "ancoms" would call him a Libertarian for how much his ideology relied on pulling one's society up by its own bootstraps.
 
Wow... SJWs now even want to colonize and wokefy black metal, the most violent non-conformist underground music genre and subculture imaginable:

https://www.pmpress.org/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1200
BU: https://archive.is/A0yfg

"Black Metal Rainbows"? :evil::unholy::twisted:😈👹🤟🌈 I look forward to Michael "Lords of Chaos" Moynihan himself reviewing this collection at Reason.com, LMAO.

I remember when this black metal documentary Blackhearts came out, anarchists were encouraging people to boycot the festivals that screened the documentary, urging their comrades to try to get the screenings shut down. None of that succeeded, so the SJWs must've thought that it was better to infiltrate black metal and destroy it from within.

 
I thought it was Kropotkin. Every free shit loving douchebag commie who whines about how horrible and unnatural it is that they're expected to work for anything seems to have a massive hardon for Kropotkin.

If Marx was alive today, many of these people would call him a Nazbol and cancel him.
Just like they are currently doing with Caleb Maupin
 
Wow... SJWs now even want to colonize and wokefy black metal, the most violent non-conformist underground music genre and subculture imaginable:

https://www.pmpress.org/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1200
BU: https://archive.md/A0yfg

"Black Metal Rainbows"? :evil::unholy::twisted:😈👹🤟🌈 I look forward to Michael "Lords of Chaos" Moynihan himself reviewing this collection at Reason.com, LMAO.

I remember when this black metal documentary Blackhearts came out, anarchists were encouraging people to boycot the festivals that screened the documentary, urging their comrades to try to get the screenings shut down. None of that succeeded, so the SJWs must've thought that it was better to infiltrate black metal and destroy it from within.

They tried to do the same shit with skinhead rock, so why not? I predict it going even more poorly with black metal because black metal has even less mainstream appeal and entrenched left wing elements than oi!. And what left wing elements are there are edgelord tankie stuff, like how Euronymous identified as a communist because he said he wanted people to be oppressed under a dictatorship. Tankies are the only leftists I could see finding any place in black metal. A band that worships Pol Pot and says that Stalin and Mao committed genocide and that's a good thing would be right up black metal's alley. Trans positive wokeness will never work in black metal because black metal's whole schtick is being really dark and "evil" and the woke crowd is obsessed with their purity and righteousness.
 
You can't speak against Marx for the same reason you couldn't oppose Lenin (and later Stalin) from "the left" in the Soviet Union, they've been promoted to divine word status. Anything against them becomes "right-wing" and "deviationist" thought.

Marx hated the anarchists because they criticized him endlessly for his authoritarian and totalitarian tendencies. (Although as noted above the anarchists never really learned the lesson of how they kept getting snuffed by the totalitarians.) Marx received the Divine Word that communism was the natural end state of literal human history, it would just happen and utopia would be achieved. The Breadtubers fit completely with this model, they don't want to really have to do anything but make YouTube videos tweet. The anarchists, whichever version you pick of the early days, all considered it necessary to improve conditions in the real world through direct action. Some of them decided this was best done through bombings and assassinations. Others said "forget this fantasy future of Marx, start doing good in the now instead of waiting on others" and started communes. Most pointed out the necessity of being suspicious of those who sought themselves to "lead" all man.

Bakunin was right about Marx, and then about Lenin, Stalin, Mao, etc. for all the same reasons. He's probably wrong about the self-sustaining ability of communism to remain anarchist, but he certainly pegged every Marx following "leader" who promised to "lead" the proletariat to the promised land. Breadtube has to keep that part non-canon though for a bundle of stupid reasons including their own personal ones.

Sometimes they get cornered and start writing off Lenin and the Soviet Union as "right-wing" or "state capitalist" or whatever else they need at the moment, while trying to keep Marx pure. If they were actual anarchists, and even anarcho-communists, they'd see no need to protect Marx or even read Marx (not that they actually do) because Bakunin's critiques alone (not to mention many other left-anarchists from Kropotkin on) were so final and complete so early on and we have real world examples of it coming true that only the deluded parts of the left continue to cling to Marxist purity of word.

edit: The added irony of the anti-work communists pledging loyalty to Marx or any early communist was that every communist in the 19th century wrote about the necessity of work. Everyone would still work, your labor just wouldn't be exploited anymore. It's even right in the slogan: "From each according to his ability..."
 
Wow... SJWs now even want to colonize and wokefy black metal, the most violent non-conformist underground music genre and subculture imaginable:

https://www.pmpress.org/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1200
BU: https://archive.md/A0yfg

"Black Metal Rainbows"? :evil::unholy::twisted:😈👹🤟🌈 I look forward to Michael "Lords of Chaos" Moynihan himself reviewing this collection at Reason.com, LMAO.

I remember when this black metal documentary Blackhearts came out, anarchists were encouraging people to boycot the festivals that screened the documentary, urging their comrades to try to get the screenings shut down. None of that succeeded, so the SJWs must've thought that it was better to infiltrate black metal and destroy it from within.


My best guess is that they failed to destroy it and now they want to control it.

With punk, that scene was always anarchist and usually left-wing (barring a few exceptions like The Ramones) and the Nazi skinheads emerged as a far-right attempt to infiltrate the punk scene.

Black metal is the opposite of that and I think the Ancoms and the Woke Left as a whole want to take over the black metal scene because it will "trigger and own the chuds" and I wouldn't be surprised if the genre's explicitly anti-Christian stances and imagery appeal to a bunch of literal communists who are all militant atheists or Wiccans.

You had the "Neckbeard Deathcamp" beardo assholes who tried to create a woke version of black metal but they largely failed and were laughed at for being tryhard even by black metal's standards. Those guys would be a lot better off now if they just played to their audience and became a punk band or something.
 
Wow... SJWs now even want to colonize and wokefy black metal, the most violent non-conformist underground music genre and subculture imaginable:

https://www.pmpress.org/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1200
BU: https://archive.md/A0yfg

"Black Metal Rainbows"? :evil::unholy::twisted:😈👹🤟🌈 I look forward to Michael "Lords of Chaos" Moynihan himself reviewing this collection at Reason.com, LMAO.

I remember when this black metal documentary Blackhearts came out, anarchists were encouraging people to boycot the festivals that screened the documentary, urging their comrades to try to get the screenings shut down. None of that succeeded, so the SJWs must've thought that it was better to infiltrate black metal and destroy it from within.

They NOW want to colonize it? The colonization has started about 2 decades ago and they're still failing.
 
the Nazi skinheads emerged as a far-right attempt to infiltrate the punk scene.
Not really.

Skinhead rock was a working class English reaction to punk becoming "too commercial" that started when punk was just barely becoming a mainstream success, and white nationalist and eventually neo-Nazi skinheads arose pretty organically from that scene. Skrewdriver is a good example of this paradigm. They didn't worm their way into the scene one day and try to turn it Nazi. They started as a street punk band that wasn't particularly racist and becoming more and more white nationalist and eventually national socialist as time went on.

This parallels skinhead's evolution as a subculture as a whole. It started as a black and white working class English thing, that ironically drew roots from Caribbean as well as British culture and had reggae as its musical genre of choice. Even in the early days there were racist undercurrents to some portions of skinhead culture... but not against black people. Blacks and whites would both engage in "Paki bashing" because they disliked Pakistani immigrants for taking their jobs.

Then right around the time punk was becoming a thing, "black liberation" and pan-African nationalism also started becoming a thing, and this drove a wedge between a lot of black and white skinheads. A lot of black skinheads abandoned the scene to become kangz (to use a modern term that roughly captures what was going on and why it was so divisive), and a lot of white skinheads started replacing the more overtly "black" aspects of the subculture with alternatives, including replacing reggae with punk. This was by no means universal, and there were still quite a few black skinheads (and still are today) and white skinheads who listened to reggae, but it did produce a noticeable cultural shift and punk completely supplanted reggae as "skinhead music."

Skinhead subculture becoming more "white" led to more white racists becoming a part of it, but the media also contributed heavily to this by biased negative reporting and moral panic shitstirring. As "skinhead" became synonymous with "Neo-Nazi" in the eyes of much of the public, it unsurprisingly made white racists want to be a part of the skinhead subculture, and repelled most other people who weren't already acquainted with it. A negative feedback loop. Then you had William Luthor Pierce and his record label, which is probably about as close as you got to Nazis trying to deliberately subvert punk for their purposes, but Pierce was only exploiting something that had already sprang up without any outside influence.

Skinhead subculture and skinhead rock still aren't, and never have been an exclusively "Nazi" thing. There's the white nationalist and neo-Nazi wing, the "anti-racist" wing which has been pretty much overrun with far left Antifa types, and the "neutral" wing of people who mostly just want to listen to their music, wear their cloths, and bond over working class travails. There are also a lot of people in the "neutral" wing who are more traditionally conservative or libertarian, and a lot of those people get smeared as neo-Nazis by Antifa types, which is very easy to do because most people outside the scene only know skinheads from movies like American History X.

Early punk's affiliation with the left also tends to be exaggerated nowadays. The Ramones had right wing Johnny, and while the Sex Pistols could be considered "anti-conservative" they were general provocateurs, not any kind of left wing ideologues. Band members wore swastika shirts to offend people. And now Johnny Rotten is a Trump supporter who's calling for an end to lockdowns. You also had bands like Agnostic Front that were fairly apolitical but occasionally dipped into messages that were a bit more right leaning. If anything, punk as a genre has been subverted more into an exclusively left wing thing as it became trendy, commercialized, and "radical chic" whereas in the earlier days it was all over the map.
 
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Wow... SJWs now even want to colonize and wokefy black metal, the most violent non-conformist underground music genre and subculture imaginable:

https://www.pmpress.org/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1200
BU: https://archive.md/A0yfg

"Black Metal Rainbows"? :evil::unholy::twisted:😈👹🤟🌈 I look forward to Michael "Lords of Chaos" Moynihan himself reviewing this collection at Reason.com, LMAO.

I remember when this black metal documentary Blackhearts came out, anarchists were encouraging people to boycot the festivals that screened the documentary, urging their comrades to try to get the screenings shut down. None of that succeeded, so the SJWs must've thought that it was better to infiltrate black metal and destroy it from within.

Theres commie black metal fans, the genre already has the anti society, anti capitalism, anti everything and it attracts certain kind of edgelords who might think Stalin and Mao were cool because they killed lots of people. Hyeronimous of "being stab by an autist and dying" fame was a notable example. Nazis are just racist communists anyway.
 
A small breadtuber has made a video calling Xanderhal out for saying ‘retard’ and ‘retarded’:

I understand where they are coming from, but their battle against ableism is forever going to be an uphill one. It is not saying ‘retard’ and ‘retarded’ that they are arguing against: it is already unacceptable in polite society to disparage people for anything other than their moral qualities. Arguing against words only results in the well-known euphemism treadmill; it is not long until ‘Are you neurodivergent?’ becomes the new ‘Are you retarded?’ And so, they are arguing against neurodivergency itself being considered bad or undesirable.

A tough idea to sell. Having some kind of mental disability is a genuine debuff to a person having it and a genuine inconvenience to those interacting. There are a few such traits, and they are easy to determine by considering what people would never wish onto their children. The list is rather short: to be crippled, to be slow, and to be ugly. If we ever have designer babies, this is going to become blindingly obvious.

I do not think it is possible to prevent people from using the opposites of desirable traits as insults. They will always insinuate somebody is inept, stupid, or repulsive to berate because they genuinely believe those are bad things to be — not morally but practically. And the best argument against doing so — ‘Well, people have no control over this!’ — may only elicit pity, not endear.
 
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