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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Inquisitor_BadAss said:
As if the SNP would give up if Scotland actually got independence. They would ride the we got your “freedom” for generations to come.
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You'd be surprised how many different views are involved within the SNP that a split is pretty much inevitable by either the left, right or even both wings of the party once the main reason for the SNP's existence is concluded. A lot of people that voted labour or lib dems have switched to the SNP to the point that almost every worker union has a good number of people that votes SNP because of the shitshow with Scottish Labour and some unions have even had a switch from supporting the union to indy when a majority of their members voted for it

The SNP consists of not only nationalists but former Labour, lib dens and conservative voters aswell due to the sole issue of independence and the failings of the unionist opposition. They might stick around for a bit after indy but the party will have to place it's foot somewhere on the political sphere soon as the main reason for many people voting for the SNP is gone. I can see it being a centrist party after the left and tartan tories move to greener pastures for them.
 
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So, you're basically saying the only thing the SNP can agree on is that the English are in fact, bad? Sounds typical for Scotland. Every day I am more and more convinced Groundskeeper Willie was an honest depiction of your average Scotsman and not a parody. And to quote Skinner. "You Scots sure do sound like contentious people."
 
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Every day I am more and more convinced Groundskeeper Willie was an honest depiction of your average Scotsman and not a parody. And to quote Skinner. "You Scots sure do sound like contentious people."
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It's probably caused by their diet of 50+ units of alcohol a day and food that contains so much oil that if a portion of it was dropped in the ocean it'd cause an environmental disaster rivalling Deepwater Horizon.
 
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Snekposter said:
So, you're basically saying the only thing the SNP can agree on is that the English are in fact, bad? Sounds typical for Scotland. Every day I am more and more convinced Groundskeeper Willie was an honest depiction of your average Scotsman and not a parody. And to quote Skinner. "You Scots sure do sound like contentious people."
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You'll find that half of Scottish Separatists associate more with the English counterparts than with Scottish Unionists and the rest rather stick to themselves. It's really just political differences reaching a boiling point for a political union where it's naturally not going to work if the two nations have major political votes and choices being made that conflict with one another and at this point, I see it as inevitable.
 

The trans debate could cost this Cambridge porter his job​

This is a story about a man called Kevin Price, who was until last week a councillor and who is, for now at least, employed as a porter at a Cambridge college.

The story illustrates two points. First, political conflict over trans rights and women’s rights is far from over, especially in the Labour Party. Second, people who say the wrong thing in this debate can put their livelihood at risk.

Mr Price last week resigned from Cambridge City Council. He had sat as a Labour councillor since 2010 and was once the council’s deputy leader.

He resigned rather than follow the Labour Group whip and vote for a motion that declared, among other things that:

“'Trans women are women. Trans men are men. Non-binary individuals are non-binary.'
Those are, of course, the holy words of trans orthodoxy, a catechism that cannot be questioned despite the countless questions it raises. (Here’s a starter for ten: if trans women are women, what does the word ‘women’ mean?)

Mr Price quit because, he said, he could not accept the unquestioning, uncritical adoption of those words. He noted that for some people, those words have highly troubling implications.

Resigning, he said:“‘The inclusion of the first three sentences of this motion will send a chill down the spines of the many women who believe there is a conflict of rights and who want to be able to discuss those in a calm and evidenced-based way….

[It is] foolish to pretend that there are not widely differing views in the current debate or that many people, especially women, are concerned about the impact on women’s sex-based rights from changes both in legislation and within society and who fear, not only that those rights are under threat, but that they are unable to raise legitimate questions and concerns without a hostile response.’


And that might have been the end of the story, seeing Mr Price ending his career as an interesting example of a politician putting principle before position or the party line, with a fairly measured contribution to a debate that too many politicians are still wary to enter.

If that was the end of it, Mr Price’s tale might prove only that Labour has some way to go before it reaches a settled, unified stance on this issue. There are good reasons that Keir Starmer has been trying to take a ‘listen to both sides’ position on the trans debate; one of those reasons is that his party is seriously split on the issue.
But that is not the end of Mr Price’s story. For Mr Price is now facing the sort of ‘hostile response’ he spoke about – calls for his employer to dismiss him from his job, because of his thoughts on sex and gender and ultimately, because of his reluctance to say the holy words.

According to Varsity, a student paper, the Union of Clare Students has condemned him and demanded the college authorities act against him. By discussing issues of policy and law at a council meeting, Mr Price had jeopardised the ‘safety’ of the college’s trans and non-binary students, the union suggested in a statement.
Varsity further quotes one Clare student as saying Price is ‘unfit both to hold public office and to be in a position of responsibility over students.’

Now, I didn’t go to Oxbridge and I’m not much for Marxist analysis of society as a class struggle. But I know enough about both to suggest that there’s something both distasteful and revealing about a bunch of Cambridge undergraduates threatening the livelihood of a man employed to serve them because he refuses to share their opinions and adopt their language.

There’s been a lot of talk in recent years about free speech on campus being under threat, and a lot of that talk has been overblown, based on nothing more than stupid self-important students doing what stupid, self-important students have always done and disinviting or banning people from speaking at events that no reasonable person would ever want to attend anyway.

But some of the concerns about universities and free inquiry are justified: just ask Professor Selina Todd, an Oxford historian who needed bodyguards because some people objected to her research on sex and gender in history.

And now it appears that the refusal to permit dissent or debate about sex and gender could cost a man his job at a university. I hope not, and not just for the sake of Kevin Price.

Yet if that is what does come to pass, Mr Price will be far from the first person to face such an egregious outcome, though he might just be the first man I’ve heard of to find himself in this position. Perhaps that might help persuade some people who have been too quiet on this topic for too long to find their voices at last.
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Minister’s scathing attack on Black Lives Matter

Equalities Minister Kemi Badenoch makes an eloquent speech during a debate on Black History Month, insisting any British schools teaching critical race theor...
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Nice to see a clear explanation of why the Conservatives do not bend the knee to BLM along with an added dose of "fuck CRT." Of course it would also be nice to see them actually cracking down on schools pushing this but somehow I suspect CV19/Brexit mean that is low on the list.

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“We should not apologise for the fact that British children primarily study the history of these islands, and it goes without saying that the recent fad to decolonise maths, decolonise engineering, decolonise the sciences that we’ve seen across our universities to make race the defining principle of what is studied is not just misguided but actively opposed to the fundamental purpose of education"
 
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It'sallabitsillyreally said:
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Minister’s scathing attack on Black Lives Matter

Equalities Minister Kemi Badenoch makes an eloquent speech during a debate on Black History Month, insisting any British schools teaching critical race theor...
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Nice to see a clear explanation of why the Conservatives do not bend the knee to BLM along with an added dose of "fuck CRT." Of course it would also be nice to see them actually cracking down on schools pushing this but somehow I suspect CV19/Brexit mean that is low on the list.

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“We should not apologise for the fact that British children primarily study the history of these islands, and it goes without saying that the recent fad to decolonise maths, decolonise engineering, decolonise the sciences that we’ve seen across our universities to make race the defining principle of what is studied is not just misguided but actively opposed to the fundamental purpose of education"
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CRT is the dumbest thing to happen for a long time. The very idea that someone has some kind of inherent advantage due to skin colour in the UK of all places. Our system is based on class not skin colour and has been for nearly a thousand years at this point.
Yes the more wealthy you become you can move up in the class structure but the old money and aristocracy can tell who was born with it and who simply got lucky. Education, connections all play a part. I’m just happy our class system isn’t anything like the one in India that shit is ridged as fuck.
 
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EHRC report finds Labour failed to deal with Anti-Semitism, Corbyn suspended and now sits as an independent MP

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Labour suspends Jeremy Corbyn over reaction to anti-Semitism report

Sir Keir Starmer acts after his predecessor says the scale of the problem within the party has been "overstated".
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I'm sure the hard left will take this news in a sensible and measured manner
 
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The_Penultimate_Warrior said:
EHRC report finds Labour failed to deal with Anti-Semitism, Corbyn suspended and now sits as an independent MP

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Labour suspends Jeremy Corbyn over reaction to anti-Semitism report

Sir Keir Starmer acts after his predecessor says the scale of the problem within the party has been "overstated".
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I'm sure the hard left will take this news in a sensible and measured manner
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Looks like the purge of the Party is going along as planned. Death to the dissident Trotskyite fifth columnists, long live Comrade Starmer!
 
The_Penultimate_Warrior said:
EHRC report finds Labour failed to deal with Anti-Semitism, Corbyn suspended and now sits as an independent MP

www.bbc.co.uk

Labour suspends Jeremy Corbyn over reaction to anti-Semitism report

Sir Keir Starmer acts after his predecessor says the scale of the problem within the party has been "overstated".
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I'm sure the hard left will take this news in a sensible and measured manner
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Yes indeed. They are SEETHING.

r/labour and r/GreenandPleasant are both full of shrieking and conspiratarding about how TEH JOOS did it. I haven't yet seen anyone there unironically refer to "(((the EHRC)))" but it can't be long now.

Ash Sarkar described it as "measured and thorough" on Twatter then immediately whatabouted about how a Tory MP was photographed near some "white supremacists."
 
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