Inactive Jennifer Gwen Ann Armstrong / LifebyJen and Vernon Eugene Stephens III / Gene / Life by Gen X - middle-aged welfare leech food addict too fat for cancer surgery and her hopeless alcoholic widower

Where did this Gene hits Jen thing come from? They are two awful people, sure, but I haven’t seen behavior that makes me think he hits her. If it’s bruises-well, that’s plain ridiculous-show me a deathfat who isn’t covered in bruises and scratches. They all are.

Abusive men usually hurt women to make sure they have them to themselves. They isolate, take away finances, frighten them, accuse them of cheating, take away phones all to make sure they’ll never leave. Jen isn’t leaving-in fact, if Gin tried you’d see that wheelchair chasing after him.

Plenty of alcoholics aren’t abusive. Some get angry when drunk, but some get sad, or happy, or philosophical and talkative. (If I had to guess, I’d think Gene would start in on the state of mankind and God and shit to all the guys in the bar who just want to watch the game.)

From when I’ve seen, it’s Jen who is snippy, bossy and passive aggressive. Those types don’t usually attract abusers, but simps.

They are two self-absorbed, unpleasant people but I don’t think anybody is getting hit.
 
Our girl Jen really didn’t need any added makeup to be scary. But terribly nice of them to choose to tell the true story of a young boy being poisoned to death by his father. Such sweet Christians.

Where did this Gene hits Jen thing come from? They are two awful people, sure, but I haven’t seen behavior that makes me think he hits her. If it’s bruises-well, that’s plain ridiculous-show me a deathfat who isn’t covered in bruises and scratches. They all are.

Abusive men usually hurt women to make sure they have them to themselves. They isolate, take away finances, frighten them, accuse them of cheating, take away phones all to make sure they’ll never leave. Jen isn’t leaving-in fact, if Gin tried you’d see that wheelchair chasing after him.

Plenty of alcoholics aren’t abusive. Some get angry when drunk, but some get sad, or happy, or philosophical and talkative. (If I had to guess, I’d think Gene would start in on the state of mankind and God and shit to all the guys in the bar who just want to watch the game.)

From when I’ve seen, it’s Jen who is snippy, bossy and passive aggressive. Those types don’t usually attract abusers, but simps.

They are two self-absorbed, unpleasant people but I don’t think anybody is getting hit.
I’m pretty sure he’s a closet gay.
 
I know we’ve had this conversation before so rate me clocks, but I’m not saying she’s a victim, at all. He can be a drunk abuser and she can want to stay in that dynamic. It works better for her if he IS a drunk abuser. That plays right into her victim story: gin hits me so I get to eat/do nothing/stay depressed/get sympathy/make him my guilt slave/a kitten/the lie that I can get a man based on personality and attraction/a captive participant in my sad boring videos
This is a staggeringly bad take based on the utter absence of knowledge of domestic violence and its dynamic. As far as I'm aware, she isn't using the 'he's an abuser therefore I can drink a gallon of cheese with a cake chaser every hour' as an excuse or to paint herself as a victim.

If anything, she's trapped with him now more than ever, because now he's paying the rent and to get her subsidy back would be an ordeal. So now he has waaaaaay more room to be as abusive as he wants. See how that works and why she might be more inclined to "stay"?

If he's hitting her -and I have no doubt he is- then she is a victim. Period. People can live their lives doing heinous shit and still be the victim of a crime.
 
This is a staggeringly bad take based on the utter absence of knowledge of domestic violence and its dynamic. As far as I'm aware, she isn't using the 'he's an abuser therefore I can drink a gallon of cheese with a cake chaser every hour' as an excuse or to paint herself as a victim.

If anything, she's trapped with him now more than ever, because now he's paying the rent and to get her subsidy back would be an ordeal. So now he has waaaaaay more room to be as abusive as he wants. See how that works and why she might be more inclined to "stay"?

If he's hitting her -and I have no doubt he is- then she is a victim. Period. People can live their lives doing heinous shit and still be the victim of a crime.

She's trapped with him? This is a woman that met him via trolling when he'd get black out drunk in online hangouts. She is the one that invited him in. She's the one that did the fake "he's kicked out video". She's 100% the protagonist in this story. Gin Gene is just in it for his three squares a day a roof over his head between binges. He reacts to her, not the other way around.

I have zero sympathy for domestic abusers -- but we have no evidence that Gin Gene is an abuser. Zero. No receipts from previous woman he's been with and no court records. I suspect Gene is a closet gay guy that is afraid / ashamed to act on his impulses. He doesn't have an a single bone in his body that cares or is attracted to Jen. What is there even to get angry about and hit her? There's no relationship there beyond transactional for him. He's in a domestic relationship with Jen the same way he's trying to sober up -- which is not at all.
 
She's trapped with him? This is a woman that met him via trolling when he'd get black out drunk in online hangouts. She is the one that invited him in. She's the one that did the fake "he's kicked out video". She's 100% the protagonist in this story. Gin Gene is just in it for his three squares a day a roof over his head between binges. He reacts to her, not the other way around.

I have zero sympathy for domestic abusers -- but we have no evidence that Gin Gene is an abuser. Zero. No receipts from previous woman he's been with and no court records. I suspect Gene is a closet gay guy that is afraid / ashamed to act on his impulses. He doesn't have an a single bone in his body that cares or is attracted to Jen. What is there even to get angry about and hit her? There's no relationship there beyond transactional for him. He's in a domestic relationship with Jen the same way he's trying to sober up -- which is not at all.
I don't think Gene is gay. I don't get that at all. Is my gaydar that rusty? I picture him fucking skanks on the side, whoever is under the bridge or in front of the liquor store when he's binging.
 
She's trapped with him? This is a woman that met him via trolling when he'd get black out drunk in online hangouts. She is the one that invited him in. She's the one that did the fake "he's kicked out video". She's 100% the protagonist in this story. Gin Gene is just in it for his three squares a day a roof over his head between binges. He reacts to her, not the other way around.

I have zero sympathy for domestic abusers -- but we have no evidence that Gin Gene is an abuser. Zero. No receipts from previous woman he's been with and no court records. I suspect Gene is a closet gay guy that is afraid / ashamed to act on his impulses. He doesn't have an a single bone in his body that cares or is attracted to Jen. What is there even to get angry about and hit her? There's no relationship there beyond transactional for him. He's in a domestic relationship with Jen the same way he's trying to sober up -- which is not at all.
The fact that he left a severely injured, bleeding, unconscious woman in a car he wrecked, then absconded with her identification, then spoke about it without an iota of remorse coupled with the bruises on Jen's arms and face is at least suggestive of an abuser. I don't recall her ever being bruised up like this prior to his arrival, but I'm not a Jen expert.

Gene is an opportunist. He's harmed everyone who's ever had the misfortune to come into his orbit. Family, friends, past partners. It absolutely benefits him to make her as dependent on him as possible, and as difficult to be rid of him as possible. Someone like Jen also saves him the time and effort of needing to isolate her from friends since she has none.

The question of what is there even to get angry about implies that perhaps she provokes him. Perhaps so. That gives him zero right to lay hands on her, and if he has done so, she's a victim of violence and he's a perpetrator.
 
He's def a POS low bottom alkie, the type to flee an accident he created with a passenger hanging on for dear life -- but I don't think that necessarily leads to domestic violence. I agree he's run out of friends and family to lean on which is why he's now with Jen.

@HamFan just the way he talks I get the feeling that he's at least bi-curious. Or maybe it's just the fact that he has many twinkish mannerisms. Who knows.
 
She's trapped with him? This is a woman that met him via trolling when he'd get black out drunk in online hangouts. She is the one that invited him in. She's the one that did the fake "he's kicked out video". She's 100% the protagonist in this story. Gin Gene is just in it for his three squares a day a roof over his head between binges. He reacts to her, not the other way around.

I have zero sympathy for domestic abusers -- but we have no evidence that Gin Gene is an abuser. Zero. No receipts from previous woman he's been with and no court records. I suspect Gene is a closet gay guy that is afraid / ashamed to act on his impulses. He doesn't have an a single bone in his body that cares or is attracted to Jen. What is there even to get angry about and hit her? There's no relationship there beyond transactional for him. He's in a domestic relationship with Jen the same way he's trying to sober up -- which is not at all.
Jen attracts people she can dominate and boss around, people who have something she can hold over her head. Her mother it was guilt, Gene it's housing and who knows what else.. If he ever did anything remotely abusive she'd be secretly recording it, posting it on her youtube channel, then fighting in the comments on why she justified in taking him back. Just my opinion, but she's wearing the pants in that relationship.
 
This is a staggeringly bad take based on the utter absence of knowledge of domestic violence and its dynamic. As far as I'm aware, she isn't using the 'he's an abuser therefore I can drink a gallon of cheese with a cake chaser every hour' as an excuse or to paint herself as a victim.

If anything, she's trapped with him now more than ever, because now he's paying the rent and to get her subsidy back would be an ordeal. So now he has waaaaaay more room to be as abusive as he wants. See how that works and why she might be more inclined to "stay"?

If he's hitting her -and I have no doubt he is- then she is a victim. Period. People can live their lives doing heinous shit and still be the victim of a crime.
Lol, you believe she lost her rent subsidy. You’d get chocolate cake out of her hand easier than a death fat and white trash po’boy would give up a govt freebie apartment.

Her apartment was built to rake in Section 8 federal rent checks. Jen is a easy tenant, big fat woman who doesn’t sell drugs or have 5 kids tearing up the joint. They don’t care if she’s letting some sleazy dude live in her place. They just want the federal rent checks to keep flowing, and fatties like her never move so they’ve probably made $50k on her fat ass alone over the last decade. They aren’t going to risk losing a golden goose. They get the same rent from the feds no matter what so why would they report her and risk her sudsidy being cut? That only means they have to depend on getting more of the rent out of fatty instead of Uncle Sam - neither the building owner or Jen wants that.

If Gene got some shitty job, which I doubt, then not a dime is being wasted on “rent” Just smokes and booze. But I’d bet his “job” is making stupid videos with fatty.

The day Jen and Gene lose a section 8 housing voucher is the day you see them moving into a trailer park.
 
Lol, you believe she lost her rent subsidy. You’d get chocolate cake out of her hand easier than a death fat and white trash po’boy would give up a govt freebie apartment.

Her apartment was built to rake in Section 8 federal rent checks. Jen is a easy tenant, big fat woman who doesn’t sell drugs or have 5 kids tearing up the joint. They don’t care if she’s letting some sleazy dude live in her place. They just want the federal rent checks to keep flowing, and fatties like her never move so they’ve probably made $50k on her fat ass alone over the last decade. They aren’t going to risk losing a golden goose. They get the same rent from the feds no matter what so why would they report her and risk her sudsidy being cut? That only means they have to depend on getting more of the rent out of fatty instead of Uncle Sam - neither the building owner or Jen wants that.

If Gene got some shitty job, which I doubt, then not a dime is being wasted on “rent” Just smokes and booze. But I’d bet his “job” is making stupid videos with fatty.

The day Jen and Gene lose a section 8 housing voucher is the day you see them moving into a trailer park.
Housing subsidies are based on total income of the household. Gene either has a job, or he has his own lazy check, thereby increasing the household income. So yes, I do believe her subsidy is either gone, or reduced. This is a huge building she lives in and is likely corporate owned. Companies aren't going to risk losing their Section 8 designation and the guaranteed rent that comes with it to illegally keep Jen on the dole.
 
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Now y’all have me wondering if Jean took a baseball bat to her, would anyone ever come looking for her?
He probably has her disability card PIN so he can go grocery shopping for her, so he would still have access to her money flow.. She doesn’t seem to have anyone that would be calling to check on her. Could he fit her in the refrigerator?
Girlfriend better start leaving a paper trail.
 
Housing subsidies are based on total income of the household. Gene either has a job, or he has his own lazy check, thereby increasing the household income. So yes, I do believe her subsidy is either gone, or reduced. This is a huge building she lives in and is likely corporate owned. Companies aren't going to risk losing their Section 8 designation and the guaranteed rent that comes with it to illegally keep Jen on the dole.

Do you think there’s some housing subsidy police closely monitoring this shit? These places are full of lazy mooches living with girlfriends on the sly. Unless the mooches are selling drugs and getting the police called to the residence on the regular, they don’t care or notice. Actually, even if they do sell drugs that rarely gets them noticed.

You think the government is so on the ball they noticed old Gene got a job at Pizza Hut a month ago and lives at a Section 8 address with his new found riches? You think Gene actually truthfully reports his address in the first place? Nevermind Covid has basically allowed everyone to do whatever the fuck they want because no evictions are allowed.

Jen has the same rent sudsidy she’s had since the first day they wheeled her fat ass in there a decade ago. Nothing has changed.

Jen lies about everything. Why on earth would you believe she put Gene on the lease or cost herself additional money? She lies about this shit because people bitch about her fat ass and Gene living on the govt tit - so she just lies and says she’s totally paying rent now just like she’s totally doing keto!

I’ll believe Gene has been put on the lease the day they move into a bigger apartment or trailer. For now Gene is just living on the DL in fatty’s section 8 apartment like hundred of thousands of other low life addicts that leech off of women living in govt subsidized housing.
 
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Jen doesn’t have less freedom now that Gene is around, she has more.

She used to have to wheel herself alone to the store each time she wanted a candy bar-now she sends Gene. When she did her bigger grocery trips she had to manage with her chair and shopping cart And was limited not only by money, but by devices. Now there are two, he can take the cart, reach the top shelf, take more home. She drops something on the ground? Gene will pick it up. He’ll feed the cats, clean the litter box and take the garbage out. Laundry is in the basement? He’s there to carry it up. Their apartment door is decorated for Halloween with tinsel that is way above Jen’s reach.

All these things that we wouldn’t think twice about but are difficult for Jen alone. She’s never had this much freedom! Her life has gotten exponentially easier since having Gene around. And I don’t even want to think about hair washing/cutting, powdering that goes on...

She’s always had bruises and cat scratches that don’t heal and blue veins all over her chest. Nothing has changed in her appearance except weight gain, which is also because she now has somebody to pick up for her at a whim.

Anyway, this is Kiwi Farms, and we do our share of analyzing and theorizing, but always based on what we have seen in videos, things like Amy hitting her baby. There is just zero sign Gin is an abuser.

Sure, he’s out for himself and a low rent psychopath who can get drunk, drive with his girlfriend, cause an accident and run but that doesn’t make him a wife beater. It makes him the kind of guy who wants everything easy and who looks out for number one.

In fact, I doubt he’d take a chance that Jen would call the cops on him. If he doesn’t have outstanding warrants, he sure doesn’t need the trouble. So I just don’t see him as an abuser. (or gay.)

He can probably even drink. Take a six pack to the river, play some pots and pans to kill time, hit the store for mouthwash and tic tac’s on the way back and most importantly, get cookies for Jen and she’ll forget all about his day out.

But if a better situation came along, he’d leave. He has no love for Jen, or anybody but himself. But guess what? Jen’s the same. Two narcs coexisting.
 
She used to have to wheel herself alone to the store each time she wanted a candy bar-now she sends Gene. When she did her bigger grocery trips she had to manage with her chair and shopping cart And was limited not only by money, but by devices. Now there are two, he can take the cart, reach the top shelf, take more home. She drops something on the ground? Gene will pick it up. He’ll feed the cats, clean the litter box and take the garbage out. Laundry is in the basement? He’s there to carry it up. Their apartment door is decorated for Halloween with tinsel that is way above Jen’s reach.
Did Jen ever do those things though?

Jen has said that when she wants candy she goes to the vending machine in her building, and when she does grocery shopping she orders online and uses Door Dash and UberEats.

I don't disagree with what you are saying, I just don't think that Jen ever leaves her building.
 
Jen doesn’t have less freedom now that Gene is around, she has more.

She used to have to wheel herself alone to the store each time she wanted a candy bar-now she sends Gene. When she did her bigger grocery trips she had to manage with her chair and shopping cart And was limited not only by money, but by devices. Now there are two, he can take the cart, reach the top shelf, take more home. She drops something on the ground? Gene will pick it up. He’ll feed the cats, clean the litter box and take the garbage out. Laundry is in the basement? He’s there to carry it up. Their apartment door is decorated for Halloween with tinsel that is way above Jen’s reach.

All these things that we wouldn’t think twice about but are difficult for Jen alone. She’s never had this much freedom! Her life has gotten exponentially easier since having Gene around. And I don’t even want to think about hair washing/cutting, powdering that goes on...

She’s always had bruises and cat scratches that don’t heal and blue veins all over her chest. Nothing has changed in her appearance except weight gain, which is also because she now has somebody to pick up for her at a whim.

Anyway, this is Kiwi Farms, and we do our share of analyzing and theorizing, but always based on what we have seen in videos, things like Amy hitting her baby. There is just zero sign Gin is an abuser.

Sure, he’s out for himself and a low rent psychopath who can get drunk, drive with his girlfriend, cause an accident and run but that doesn’t make him a wife beater. It makes him the kind of guy who wants everything easy and who looks out for number one.

In fact, I doubt he’d take a chance that Jen would call the cops on him. If he doesn’t have outstanding warrants, he sure doesn’t need the trouble. So I just don’t see him as an abuser. (or gay.)

He can probably even drink. Take a six pack to the river, play some pots and pans to kill time, hit the store for mouthwash and tic tac’s on the way back and most importantly, get cookies for Jen and she’ll forget all about his day out.

But if a better situation came along, he’d leave. He has no love for Jen, or anybody but himself. But guess what? Jen’s the same. Two narcs coexisting.

I’m pretty sure Gene drinks openly in the apartment just like Jen stuffs her face with cake and fast food all day. The “journey” and “struggling to overcome addiction” is just BS content for YT.

They both indulge their addictions to their hearts’ content most everyday. Pretending they are trying to “do better” is just YT fodder, not any actual goal in their life or even something they put a modicum of effort into.
 
Did Jen ever do those things though?

Jen has said that when she wants candy she goes to the vending machine in her building, and when she does grocery shopping she orders online and uses Door Dash and UberEats.

I don't disagree with what you are saying, I just don't think that Jen ever leaves her building.

I would have to agree. Sure, Jen technically has more freedom with Gene here to help her out, but she doesn't actually take advantage of that except to be lazier. With his help, she could spend more time walking without her chair, go places to see things, find simple enjoyments outside the apartment, blah blah. But no, her fundamental life has remained mostly unchanged. She stays inside all day, doesn't walk, gets groceries delivered, eats tons of take out, and cooks shit food. That's it, that's her life. With or without Gene.
 
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